“Ignorant, pompous or testy” seem fair, but calling MM “consistent rock” is deceptive. Maybe stubborn and unaware would better?

I'm mostly on the "support" McCarthy corner.

But that whole Hundley mess really exposed MM.
Just like 2013 when the Bears busted Rodgers other collar bone. MMs backup QBs didn't come close to doing the job then either.

They had to go against their plans and bring back Matt Flynn.

MM is no QB guru.
No QB whisperer.
He's pretty smart offensively. Not a genius.

He was given Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers.
I doubt Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez could have even messed that up, although she may have she's that clueless.

Still, Favre in 2009 in Minny looked better than ever.
And Rodgers is the best ever.

One magical, with luck in Philly, run to a Super Bowl is really not even close to good enough, with THE GOAT at QB for now 11 years plus he had Favre 2 years prior.

Let's all hope the getting-plumper every year MM is given a long term extension in February. That means Super Bowl #5 for us.

MM is a good person and a good coach, but he has his faults, just like anyone else. When you live your profession with the spotlight on you publicly, those warts are going to show up. Everyone's would. That doesn't mean that he's a bad coach, nor does it mean that he is the GOAT coach. Just the way it is in the NFL.

It's a bottom line business though. As good as MM has been for as long as he's been here, if he doesn't get the team at least to the divisional round this year, he should be fired. The QB he has, the offensive line, the defensive line.. this is a good team. Not without it's weaknesses. But good.

One thing about MM, he doesn't use excuses. There have been times when he could have but you rarely see it. He sure doesn't like to be critisized and gets defensive as hell in pressers. That's the one thing our press coverage lacks, holding the front office and coaches accountable. If it were NY or LA the press con would be a whole different ball game.

I kind of think it's easy to criticize a HC, and ignore or get used to the fact that GB "should compete" virtually ever year. How many teams could lose an Aaron Rodgers and compete? I'm thinking maybe a couple. I can look and see genius with MM, just as quickly as I can see a trip to the Super Bowl vanish against Seattle, where we clearly choked and loss due to poor coaching in Seattle.

Bottom line is this team's success is undeniable. It has a lot to due with the HC, the coaching staff, and Aaron Rodgers. I think this staff might be the best its ever been. MM is a solid HC, period.

We could just as easily be sorry by replacing him, as in continuing to hope he gets us back to the promised land. I've personally never been on the dislike of MM train. Now, Ted Thompson? Couldn't see him out of GB quick enough. I'd have fired him after the 2011 season where he fielded that horrific defense, with the most prolific offense ever at the helm.

I like MM. I love this coaching staff. We have a huge chance.

Many of you is very easy on MM. Spit on him, finding his negatives, believing without the real foundation that somebody else would be better. Who, excluding Bill Belichik?

Also, some of writers here are reporters. Why some of you, reporters do not ask Aaron Rodgers what is his opinion on MM? There is no such question. Why? Because you know what will be Aaron's answer. Something you would not prepare to hear!

0.636! There is only one active coach better!

I get the disappointment of last year, but superbowl or bust is abit unfair for MM. Injuries destroyed us last season my biggest disappointment has been in the lack of plan B or C, in that case blame and upset is fair. Other teams have strolled along (if not thrievd) just fine without a starting QB, you have to like Gute's trade of Kiser because at least he realises the Hundley train is running out of excuses.I would love to see a healthy Pack win the superbowl, but if a big injury happens again and MM isn't ready I warrant the dismay.

Your record is what you are. I don't see an available coach out there who would be a vast improvement over MM. He has one heck of a winning record and has kept the team together during tough times. He has his warts like anyone else but I'd rather have him as a head coach than an unknown who "might" do better. Like Belichick and Brady, MM and Rodgers are tied together. I think that's why Mark Murphy didn't want to give Gute the power to fire MM this year. I'm excited about this team and have been far less inclined to believe that the FO was "wasting" Aaron Rodgers years as a QB. It's really hard to get a team to the playoffs and harder still to get to the SB (just ask Viking fans) and to do so consistently is impressive. If some players didn't completely melt down in the last three minutes of the 2014 NFC championship game Arod would have two SB rings and this discussion would be a lot less likely to be going on. We had a one legged QB and the defense held Russell Wilson to a QB rating of "0.0" for the first half of that game. I will always maintain that had Rodgers been healthy there would have been all TD's instead of field goals in that game and it would of been a GB blowout win. MM is IMO a very good coach. I would be shocked if the Packers don't (at minimum) reach the playoffs yet again this year if 12 is healthy. I've seen plenty of bad coaches in GB before Holgrem and MM. I'm not anxious to try a "shiny new toy" head coach any time soon. Teams that have tried to replace winning coaches after a bad year almost always regret it.

Not comparable to BB. McArthy is not a good coach. At least Holmgrn always pointed to Favre when talking of his success. Mcarthy really thinks he is a great coach. Give him the smelling salts.

A few years ago, I had a building collapse from heavy snow on my property. Next spring when I started cleaning it up to rebuild, I had to make a decision. 1 wall was fully intact and could have easily been saved. After thinking about it while cleaning, I decided it was best just to start over from scratch. The remaining wall wasnt the reason the building collapsed. But it didnt do anything to prevent it either. It just stood there and watched it happen. Reminds me of coach McCarthy!

I dont think MM is a bad coach, nor is he good. He in my opinion is average or even slightly below. It is about time his seat warmed up to the frying point. If you are this "highly successful coach" that you laim to be, PROVE IT! No more boring predictable offense. No more poor clock management. No more keeping coaches around because you are old buddies. Do the job off the head coach. Get involved in all areas of the team! Let the OC do his job. Let the DC do his job. All areas of the team coaches and players are YOUR responsibility.

Now lets go put an ass whooping on the restt of the NFL. Your job depends on it!

You wanna talk about pressure?
A few years ago a buddy of mine caught his wife in bed with another man.
He was crushed.
“You two get off of me!” he cried, since he couldn’t take the PRESSURE.
Ouch.

Cory, I have not seen one single quote from anyone in Packers leadership--Murphy, Ball, McCarthy, Gute, or anyone else--indicating Gute can hire and fire the head coach.

All comments and stories have instead stressed the opposite--that McCarthy, Ball, and Gute all report to the same man and are therefore on the same level. They just have different responsibilities.

Please provide evidence to the contrary. I would be THRILLED to be wrong about this.

In the meantime, any spin about the changes just being made to "improve communication" are hilarious, as these presume the previous structure somehow hampered or forbade communication between Thompson, McCarthy, Ball, and Murphy--which it did not in any way.

Mark Murphy changed the power structure, not for communication purposes as he states but so he has control/power over hiring and firing. Those responsibilities should have been left to Brian G. Can anyone really see Murphy firing McCarthy? That is why the move was made. For good or ill, it won’t happen. No pressure. Leaving will have to be McCarthy's choice.

Superbowls are very difficult to win, even with a team with few weak holes. So that is not a fair benchmark for retaining MM. As others said, too many other variables.

But, he is on the hot seat, and if no major injuries to key personnel, then he should be judged at the end of 2018;
one playoff win at least; plus

1) Kiser or Hundley are coached up and can win
2) CBs are coached up and King and a rookie are making plays, and getting noticed, and probably starting. They rank in Top 10 backfields across NFL.
3) Pettine has solved miscommunication assignments.

5) Pettine has taken away the short dump off passes, thus opposing QBs hold the ball longer and a pedestrian OLB group gets big jump in sacks (<50+ % increase over 2017)
5) 2 WRS from 17-18 classes are heavily contributing.
6) TEs are used creatively with RBs, and present nightmare for opposiong defenses, including screens. TE group leads NFL top 10 in receptions. Thus Rodgers takes 50% less sacks.

There; McCarthy has to do 5 out of the 6 above, or he should be shown the door after the season. If he accomplishes 5, then he is a damn good HC.

I have always been and remain in the support MM camp because compared with his peers his results are second only to BB since 2006. However, MM can be very frustrating with some of his in game decisions and some of his press conference responses. He has definitely been too loyal and too slow to replace Slocum and Capers and he has allowed Bennett and Van Pelt to reach their levels of incompetence.

I don't know for sure but I believe the 2018 exit interviews presented team management with poor communications and competency issues with the members of the coaching staff who have since been replaced. We'll never know if it was MMs, Gutes or Murphys decision to finally let them go.

Some where there was a disconnect between MM and TT on roster decisions. MM gets the credit for the wins so has has take responsibility for the losses but why were position groups ignored for season after season? Safety, RB, TE, ILB, OLB, etc... Why didn't TT at least try to sign some FAs who may have provided the extra experience and plays that could have made the difference in many of the playoff losses. We were only one play away from advancing in 2013, 2014 to the SB and 2015.

I still firmly believe that the Packers would have completely unravelled with any other HC in 2013. MM held the team together after that lopsided loss to the Lions on Thanksgiving and brought his team into the playoffs when other teams in the division collapsed without suffering the same injuries endured by the Packers that season. That may still remain as MMs finest hour.

MM has his faults, no doubt, but he brings continuity, integrity, confidence in his staff, systems and players plus a healthy respect for the Packers tradition to his role as HC. He also always shows his appreciation for the fans support even during TC. He has been an excellent if not great HC for the Packers.

For those who are concerned with wasting ARs remaining time in GB, that will happen if MM is fired and the team needs to start everything over again. That will take another 2-3 seasons at least off ARs remaining years and still may not yield an SB victory. Just think about what happened to Favre after Holmgren left GB. We didn't come close to an SB again until 2007, MMs second season as HC. I still believe that if Holmgren remained in GB we would have had another one or 2 SBs with Favre. For now keep MM unless the bottom falls out. Thanks, Since '61