Packer Snap Counts V. SF: Divisional Round 2023

The Packers go down fighting.

 

 

The Packers elevated LB Keshawn to the 53-man roster from the practice squad.  The team signed Punter Pat O’Donnell to the PS but when Whelan was healthy enough to play, they left O’Donnell on the PS.  The Packers never placed Enagbare on the injured reserve.

 

The healthy scratches were Caleb Jones, Malik Heath, Enagbare, Sapp, and LB Brenton Cox.  It is interesting that the team elevated Banks while leaving Cox inactive given the loss of Enagbare.  AJ Dillon was the other inactive player due to his thumb.

 

 

Player Snaps % STs
Myers 67 100 4-17%
Jenkins 67 100  
Walker 67 100 4-17%
Runyan 47 70 4-17%
Tom 41 67 2-8%
Nijman 26 39 4-17%  
Rhyan 20 30  
Newman     4-17%

 

 

Overall, the offensive line more than held their own against an extremely talented and well-paid defensive front seven, particularly in the first half.  They ran the ball well in the first half.  Aaron Jones carried the ball 11 times for 49 yards, a 4.5-yard average with a long of 10.  San Francisco had just one tackle for loss all game.  The sledding got much tougher in the second half as Jones gained 59 yards on 7 carries, with a long of 53.  That means his other 6 carries in the second half gained just 6 yards. 

 

The pass protection was pretty good.  Jordan Love was sacked just once and hit 6 times (5 times by Nick Bosa).  Those numbers are modest, but San Francisco got pretty consistent pressure and maintained good lane integrity.  When Love escaped the pocket a few times he was running away from the line of scrimmage (which usually means a throwaway) or parallel to it.  When he escaped wide and was able to run towards the line of scrimmage, he either couldn’t find a wide receiver or was unable to turn upfield.  Converting third and shorts still is dicey on the ground. 

 

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  The line’s performance has improved so much that I might have to rethink the team’s needs (or at least their urgency) for the draft and off-season.  I still think that an upgrade in personnel is important.  Plus, Green Bay will probably lose Nijman and Runyan unless they re-sign them, so finding more depth also seems appropriate.  The Packers gave Runyan the lion's share of the snaps (47-20) if that is indicative of how they view Rhyan for 2024. They need a starting guard, a swing tackle, and a utility interior offensive lineman.  

 

 

Player Snaps % STs
Jones 54 81  
Taylor 8 12 8-25%
Wilson 5 7 None

 

Aaron Jones looked dynamic.  He averaged 6.0-yards for the game and showed how he can turn creases into solid gains and holes into chunk plays.  He was ineffective in the passing game, catching 3 of his 6 targets for 8 yards with a long of 6.  That might be due to the prowess of Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw.  Emanuel Wilson looked competent, gaining 16 yards on 4 carries.  Taylor played more snaps than Wilson but did not get a carry.    

 

OFFSEASON OUTLOOK:  Wilson did not do enough to project him as more than a third stringer. He still doesn't play on special teams  Dillon is a free agent and Jones has a $17.028M cap number in 2024.  The Packers either need to find a way to retain Jones or find a starting running back.  Dillon is not a good starter and Taylor is just a guy.

 

Player Snaps % STs
Kraft 57 85 13-54%
Musgrave 19 28 2-8%
Sims 10 15 5-21%
Deguara 6 9 11-46%

 

The tight ends had a quiet game, as the Packers only got 27 yards out of this group, but it was a busy game for them.  Kraft had an interesting game.  He caught 3 of his 6 targets for 9 yards.  The pass that was intercepted after he tipped it up into the air was way behind him.  He was repeatedly asked to execute reach blocks on Nick Bosa, few of which (none?) found success.  It did seem as if Bosa read the play pre-snap as at least twice he crashed hard inside immediately.  Few TEs lined up on his outside shoulder can execute that block.  Kraft also was in a beautiful position downfield to block for Jayden Reed on a reverse but failed to block the DB who tackled Reed.  Reed still got 9 but this looked like a possible huge play.  Musgrave caught 3 of 4 passes for 14 with a long of 9.  Sims caught a pass for 4 yards.

 

OFFSEASON OUTLOOK:  Deguara is a free agent but he is unlikely to return.  Tyler Davis is on injured reserve with an ACL and he will be a free agent.  Ben Sims should get a look again but the Packers will be on the lookout for some depth on a low-priority basis.

 

Player Snaps % STs
Love 67 100  
Clifford DNP    

 

Love completed 21 of 34 passes for 194 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, and a 72.4 passer rating.  He gained 3 yards on 5 rushes.  Love wasn’t sharp, but this game made him throw into a lot of tight windows.  He also had to try to get passes over the out-stretched arms of linebackers who had gotten great depth and drop it down before the DBs could make a play on the ball.  I don’t think there was enough room to do this, but, in any event, it was a problem all night.  I would add that Brock Purdy also faced linebackers who got very good depth and he also fared poorly.  Love also just missed a few.
 

OFFSEASON OUTLOOK:  It is bright.  The starter is obvious.  I did not see enough of Clifford to have an opinion on whether the Packers would look for significant competition for the backup job.  Clifford looked interesting in training camp and better in preseason games.

 

 

Player Snaps % STs
Doubs 54 81  
Reed 41 61 4-17%
Watson 37 55  
Wicks 27 40  
Melton 17 25 5-21%

 

Doubs caught 4 of his 6 targets for 83 yards with a long of 38 to lead the Packers.  He ran some nice routes and also was schemed open.  He continued to double-clutch some of his receptions but he did not have a drop.  He also went out of bounds rather than take a hit to get a handful of extra yards for the second game in a row.  I assume that he is doing that due to his recent chest injury which caused him to cough up blood.

Reed caught all 4 of his targets for 35 yards, with a long of 27.  Melton caught his only target for a 19-yard touchdown as he was wide open.  Watson caught 1 of his 2 targets for 11 yards.  Wicks was targeted twice but had no receptions.  Watson and Reed were not productive but they did throw some mean blocks on Edge players.  

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  The Packers have no need to look for depth as they have 5 or 6 wide receivers who belong in the NFL, and several who can be #2 WRs.  They did not have a consistent, do-it-all #1 WR this year.  They might easily project several of their current receivers in this role.  Since the Packers will draft 25th, I expect the top WRs to be gone, and they have too many other positions that need a talent infusion to use a premium pick on a WR.

 

Player Snap % STs
Clark 56 88  
Wyatt 42 56 5-21%
Slaton 29 45 10-42%
Brooks 16 25 9-38%
Wooden 8 12 9-38%
Banks 2 3 9-38%

 

 

The Packers allowed 111 yards on 24 carries for a 4.6-yard average.  They did a pretty good job on McCaffrey who gained 98 yards on 17 carries, a 5.6-yard average.  Savage was in good position to make a tackle on McCaffrey for a modest gain but missed, allowing McCaffrey to scamper for a 38-yard touchdown.  Without that play, McCaffrey averages about 3.7 yards.  There were also some other missed tackles.  On consecutive second down plays on their TD drive in the first half, missed tackles turned what should have been 3rd and 5s into 3rd and 1s.  

Kenny Clark had a very good day with 5 tackles (2 solo) and a half sack.  He blew up some plays that allowed other players to clean up.  Clark usually plays very well during the playoffs. Karl Brooks had a lot of pressures, perhaps 5 or so, on just 16 snaps.  He sometimes lined up at Edge or End with his hand in the dirt, as did Wooden.  Brooks had just 1 assisted tackle and Wooden had none with a QB hit and a blocked field goal.  Slaton had 4 tackles (3 solo) and got some push at times, while Wyatt had 1 solo tackle.

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  This is another unit that has been much better for the last handful of games.  I do think it could use reinforcements, though the draftniks tell me it isn’t a stellar year for defensive linemen in the draft.  Clark and Slaton will be in contract years, and it often takes defensive linemen a year to acclimate to the NFL.  That bodes well for Brooks and Wooden.  Wyatt was on pace to lead this unit in snaps but he left the game with an injury.  Adding a lineman on day one or two makes sense if the draft cooperates.

 

Player Snaps % STs
Walker 58 91 1-4%
Campbell 40 62 6-25%
McDuffie 24 38 11-36%
Wilson 1 2 19-79%
Smith 53 83  
Gary 42 66  
Van Ness 28 44 9-38%
Welch     14-58%
       

 

Walker had 9 tackles (5 solo) including a tackle for loss. He missed a tackle and got fooled on another, but he was physical and got good depth when he dropped back into coverage.  Campbell had 8 tackles (5 solo), a QB hit, and a pass defensed.  He looked solid to me, and interestingly got more snaps that McDuffie, who had no statistics.  McDuffie did bring physicality to the table including that hard bump on Kittle to re-direct his route and ruin the timing.  Wilson jumped on a fumble and played special teams.

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  Devondre Campbell’s return is up in the air.  He is due almost $10M in cash and carries a $14.2M cap number.  A post-June designation free-up $10.5M in cap space.  The Packers will have to generate a fair amount of cap space somehow.  $10M cash is too much if he is a part-time or rotational player.  On the other hand, while I like McDuffie I don’t see him as a quality season-long starter, though I suppose they could muddle through with him.

 

Preston Smith had 2 tackles (1 solo), 2 QB hits and a half sack.  He continued to do the dirty work.  Gary had 4 assisted tackles and 1 QB hit.  Green Bay needs more than that.  Van Ness had 2 solo tackles and bull-rushed all day.  This was a lackluster group.

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  Smith is due $12.4M in 2024 and has a cap number of $16.5M.  The Packers can generate $12.4M in cap savings with a June designation.  It is interesting that Cox was inactive with Enagbare out.  The Packers would be okay with Gary, Enagbare (if he comes back healthy, Cox and Smith, but that $12.4M will be tempting.  I note that the Packers did not put Enagbare on IR.  there are roughly 8 contracts from which to extract cap savings: Smith, Campbell, Clark, Alexander, Jones, Bakhtiari, and Gary.

 

Player Snaps % STs
Owens 64 100 12-50%
Savage 64 100  
Alexander 63 98  
Valentine 62 97 5-21%
Nixon 40 62 10-42%
Johnson 9 14 5-21%
Ballentine 3 5 15-62%
Rochell     14-58%
Anderson     13-54%

 

 

Alexander had 5 tackles (4 solo) and was quite physical.  Ditto for Nixon who had 5 tackles with 3 solo, plus a big kickoff return.  Valentine had 4 tackles (3 solo) and was physical.  His coverage was pretty good.  Savage had 4 tackles (2 solo) and a pass defensed.  Of course, he dropped an interception that hit him in the chest, missed the last tackle on McCaffrey’s long TD run and got beat by Kittle for a TD.  Yet, I think he played really hard and has helped the communication in the secondary.  But those were three huge plays.  Owens was okay.      

OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK:  It is anyone’s guess what happens with Savage.  They could take a safety high, or a CB to add to Alexander and Valentine (and Stokes, I suppose).  Two DBs in the first 4 rounds wouldn’t surprise me.

    

SPECIAL TEAMS

Carlson made two short field goals and missed a 41-yarder.  Whelan was fine and did a good job on a bad snap.  Nixon had one huge kickoff return and another nice one.  Coverage teams were good.

RB: 1.0

TE: 1.37

WR: 2.63

DL: 2.39

ILB: 1.89

OLB: 1.89

DBs: 4.76

 

Statistics courtesy of NFLgsis

Photo courtesy of Dan Powers, USA Today   

 

 

 

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 21, 2024 at 06:37 am

I admit to a feeling that there is a disconnect between my player evaluations (for each position group) and the results of this season, and more specifically the last 5 games or so. They might be too harsh. I have no real idea how the defense is generating coverage sacks with that group. Still, the DL is a little leaky against the run. GB went the whole year without any serious injuries. The ILBs are decent. The OLBs have depth and when Gary is bringing it, top end pass rush. The OL hasn't been good about gaining a yard mano-o-mano for years. WR is ok and could easily blossom thru internal development. TE starters are ok, need to find some depth. RB?

The Packers likely can get by with just getting $21.5M from releasing Bakh, but they lose their UFAs. Nixon? Runyan? Nijman? Dillon? Savage and Owens (though some of those guys won't get big money)? Is Love's extension going to cost cap in 2024? these guys are not huge losses, for the most part. They might add up.

Edit: The team was bumbling and fumbling around on offense. Blockers running into each other, throwing themselves at shins rather than blocking, WR running the wrong routes, linemen missing the protection calls. The TEs could be trusted to make more blocks, if not high end Marcedes types. The defense couldn't pass off a receiver or communicate with each other. Gary and enagbare running past the 'QB in a mad chase for sacks, like Gen. Montgomery in WWII looking for glory. Things started to look much cleaner eventually. Rasheed stopped completely whiffing a couple of times per game, and Jenkins eventually showed why he is the 2nd highest paid OG in the NFL.

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stockholder's picture

January 21, 2024 at 08:06 am

21.5. - Yes - It's time to realize, Bahk is done.
Walker is now the LT. And Tom was missed @ RT.
If they Lose their UFA's, they lose them.
Still I would try to re-sign Nixon.
So Gutey doesn't blow draft picks.
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Guam's picture

January 21, 2024 at 09:36 am

I was not a Walker fan early in the season but have come to appreciate his growth and development. Gute has performed admirably at OT, finding two young starters in the fourth and seventh rounds!

I think Bahk and Nijman are both gone and I have no idea what the Packers have in Caleb Jones, Tenuta or Telfort. Runyon is a question mark for me. The Packers may resign him if the price is right or let him go if he gets expensive competing offers in free agency. They already have Rhyan to replace Runyon if needed or have competition between the two if Runyon is retained.

All of which means the Packers will be in the market for a backup OT and some depth on the IOL. I don't think the Packers will use high draft choices on the O-line and expect all of the O-line help will come in the third round or later. Given Gute's ability to find later round gems on the O-line, I think the Packers can save their top draft choices for other needs.

Like two new safeties, a replacement for Campbell at ILB and some depth at RB.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2024 at 10:16 am

I think you hit most of it: OL, S, ILB, RB, and DL. Those are the positions needing serious work this off-season. Is it coincidence or cause/effect that Tom leaving the game and the offense losing it's way seemed to go together? I think if they don't like JRJ enough to play him full time, they can't like him enough to give him starter's money on a second contract. I think the Packers will spend on the OL early, and in this year's draft--picking later in the first--the best value at that spot may come at T. I'd love to see a big, mean, physical IOL somewhere in this draft.

If I'm a college S and I'm not picked in this year's draft, I'm asking my agent to get me a UDFA contract in GB--there will be jobs to be won. Savage has been a roller-coaster player, and it's hard to imagine the Packers investing in him (except maybe on a one-year deal if his market doesn't materialize) with Johnson showing some promise and guys like Owens who can be a depth chart guy at a much lower rate, but they really have a bunch of box guys. They've got to find that heady, coverage S somewhere. The whole defense will make a jump if they do.

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Guam's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:08 am

The Packers gave Yosh over $4 million this year to be a swing tackle/reserve. I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar one year deal for Runyon unless the market for Runyon is much better than I expect it to be.

Spot on comment for safety. The need to finally find Nick Collins replacement as it appears Savage is not that guy. I think this may be where the Packers first round pick lands although I have no knowledge of the safety group coming out of college this year. Wouldn't mind another swing at it either in the third or forth round too,

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:34 pm

I agree with you, Dobber. One of the strengths of this year's draft is offensive Tackle, including those strong and agile enough to move inside, (which is the Packer's modus operandi). If the Packers truly want a starting caliber tackle, or interior offensive linemen, they will have their opportunity as long as they do not wait. Combine that thought with the fact that the Packers will have at least 2 OTs, 2 guards, and 1 center reaching free agency over the next two years, and to me it's a no-brainer. Why wouldn't you want to go with the strength of the draft, and build a stronger offensive line around your new, franchise QB? The Packers have a history of doing this and should do it again.

IMO, I believe Gute will likely add 2 offensive linemen early and another later in the draft. I also believe the future Packer swing tackle is currently on this team. There are 5 players of which 3 I will mention that could fall to us in the first 2 picks: Amarius Mims - OT Georgia, Troy Fautanu - OT Washington (moving inside), and Graham Barton OT Duke (moving inside). Of course there is a lot of time between now and the draft that could change things, but all 3 of these players could be instant starters for the Pack. My belief is that if Cooper De Jean does not fall to us, or if the Packers don't trade-up for him, they are likely to go this route. That also likely means, the Packers have to trade-up a little from their current position with their #2 pick from the Jets.

Last, I wish to thank the Team, TGR and all the CheeseheadTV writers, and posters for their thoughtful comments this year.

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:12 am

In my view we need to move on from ( or draft to enable us to )

Both safeties
Runyon, Rhyan, Myers (G&C)
Nixon (as a full time slot)
Dillon
Newman

That excludes cap driven questions. Personally I’d try to rework Smith and Jones. Their play merits it but the cap hits probably don’t. I would draft a Jones type prospect to groom in protection. I would keep Wilson.

If we can get Runyon and Savage back cheap I would t object as depth (Nijman too but he would be nuts and won’t after his treatment). However, we have to set out to be better. Myers is still with us next year, but we need better and his last rookie year is the time to truly find competition to replace him now or in 2025. Newman just needs to go.

Nixon isn’t bad but we have zero depth, we need a better pass coverage option. Safety just is not cutting it. That may need a FA option or two. We don’t have one full time starter caliber prospect, Owens is a role player and I think Savage is too.

I agree with you on Campbell actually playing pretty well in both playoff games, I don’t know how healthy he is. I do think we have to plan for his replacement even if cap does t drive it. I like MvDuffie, but he’s a situational starter, a good 3rd option. We also need a real kicking competition, though I think Carlson will find the kink in short kicks. I am not impressed by the LS.

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stockholder's picture

January 22, 2024 at 10:30 am

Safety - According to Draft TEk -
Which jersey Al was tied to a Mock years ago.

Nubin and then Kinchins are 30 /31
And the guy climbing is Cole Bishop @ 72

Troy Fautanu Ot but projected G is #29
Jordan Morgan LT/Poss. LG is #27 ( Knee repaired)
Graham Barton OT /IOL #37
Kingsley Suamatara LT /anywhere #45

The RBs @ 51 and back

When in doubt stack the OL this year

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PeteK's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:13 am

--I believe we're also getting a big chunk of cap relief from Rogers's contract.
--I want Jones and Campbell back.
--FA Winfield, if the price is not too exorbitant.
-- G and S should be first picks, then DT, RB (even though I like Wilson) T, ILB, CB, not in that order.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 03:15 pm

I agree with TGR on much of his column, and appreciate you both pointing out the need to draft/find more CBs, PeteK & TGR. You have Alexander with a bad back who missed a bunch of time this year, Stokes with his unfortunate injury issues, Nixon perhaps reaching free agency, and the need to replace Douglas yet. Yes, we definitely have a need to draft a CB or 2, along with the obvious holes to fill at safety.

There is not a whole lot of depth at safety, but there is more at CB in this year's draft. If we do not draft one of 2 safeties on day 1, we will have a chance for some good CBs and safeties yet in day 2 and perhaps early in day 3. This year's draft is loaded with players that would normally be taken in the 2nd round being projected into the 3rd, and so-on....and Gute has loaded up!!

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:31 pm

There are 3 NTs in the top 150 in the draft; Sweat from Texas, Jackson from Texas A&M and Rogers from Auburn. If they stay with the 3-4 Maason Smith from LSU would be someone they should be interested in as a DE for early downs at 6'-6" and 315 lbs. He's 102 on PFF's big board.

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T7Steve's picture

January 22, 2024 at 11:03 am

Forgot to comment the first time I read this, today.

Thanks for your snap counts all season long, TGR.

I think it teaches us more about how the team is thinking than the actual results in the short term.

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jvole's picture

January 21, 2024 at 06:46 am

Uggh, sad we are talking about the draft. Replacing Savage is to me the highest priority. He just misses too many tackles.

The offensive line, yet again, did a helluva job and knocked that 9er d-line around plenty last night! But yes, they need some more talent at guard even if Runyan came on toward the end, Jenkins was hurt plenty this year. I don't see how they can brink Bakh back--He is such a wild card and so maybe a tackle to back up Wallace and Tom.

Then a top tier running back and inside linebacker. Campbell is going to be 30 and was hurt a lot this last year.

This team was easy to like. Jordan choked a bit at the end but I think he has the humility to learn from his mistakes.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:23 am

There are 4 OTs, not counting Zach Tom. Gutey needs to draft 3 O linemen in early rounds assuming 4 aren't returning, (Bakh Newman Nijman JRJ) or if they sign Runyon they could get away with 2. They should all be on the interior, with 1 or 2 specifically drafted to play C. I'd like to see a legitimate competition for the position starting in day 1 of OTAs between the drafted rookie, Zach Tom, and Myers. He's been playing hurt, if he comes back 100% he might be substantially better. I don't know if he'll ever have the football IQ of Zach Tom, or if Zach has played RT too long to ever be a great C again. Keeping him at RT makes it stupid to have drafted 4 OTs at 6'6" 6'7" 6'8" and 6'9". Gutey and MLF are out of sync between drafting and usage, and this isn't the only example.

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jvole's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:49 am

Agree on the IOL. If they keep Newman then we are truly in Amari Rodgers territory.

For tackles--It seems the Packers draft many OL pebbles late in the draft in the hopes of finding a diamond. The first two rounds will tell us if they think they have a another diamond amongst those hurt big guns.

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PeteK's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:27 am

Tom is our starting RT because he is good, young, and will get better. RG should be a high priority in the draft. I would say coaching staff and Gute are in excellent synch , and the last two drafts proves that.

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jlc1's picture

January 21, 2024 at 06:53 am

Worth noting that the run game and offense generally stalled when Tom had to leave. Jones' big run was to the other side as well.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:25 am

Nijman was benched due to some hidden form of favoritism, but he quickly plays worse when he's not playing. He was put into the role of swing tackle and embraced it, but just can't switch sides well. I expect he would not return to GB even if offered.

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PeteK's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:33 am

Not so hidden favoritism of being a better player in practice and in games. This is the NFL not high school.

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2024 at 12:33 pm

I’d worry about the center right IOL which was the real problem yesterday. Nijman will be playing elsewhere, but the problem remains at C and RG.

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HawkPacker's picture

January 21, 2024 at 06:54 am

"Campbell had 8 tackles (5 solo), a QB hit, and a pass defensed. He looked solid to me, and interestingly got more snaps that McDuffie"

TGR, our views differ on both of these players. I thought, watching the game, that Campbell was hurt as he seemed to move slow to me. an example would be when Purdy dropped back and Campbell had an unblocked run at him for a sack and he appeared to me to take his time going after him. I was really surprised to see him move that slowly. I like Campbell but not sure he is playing up to his potential. I realize he said a few weeks back that he was hurt and that he would not play until he healed up. So we will see how his futures goes in GB.

I mentioned some weeks ago that I thought McDuffie had taken a step this year as had been playing pretty good football this year.

Overall for the game, it was a tough game for us and easy to finger point. I did my complaining to my wife last night during and after the game but in all honesty, we got much further, and learned more about 'our team' this year than I thought possible. Looking forward to everyone's take on the game/season and look forward to the future, especially the draft.

We need Gutey to have another draft like the last one. If you look at all the positions on our team, at this point, I do not see any glaring weaknesses like I did some weeks back. This is definitely a draft where we draft 'best player available'.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:00 am

I agree in part. Campbell had an open rush lane to Purdy once and it seemed like it took him forever to get to Purdy. Still, SF usually owns the middle of the field when passing - loads of completions between the hashmarks - and they just didn't in this game. Hard to tell if that was Campbell, 'quay or even Nixon and savage.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:33 am

That's definitely part of what kept GB in this game so long! They fared surprisingly well in this regard, and I can't identify if it was really 100% effort by everybody on every play, or who let up, or when.

They certainly did not go down without a fight, and there were a lot of gritty tackles and blocks to go along with some missed tackles.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 03:27 pm

I saw what you saw, TGR and Hawk! The LBs were dropping into some of SFs passing lanes and being disruptive.

I'm not sure how often this happened, but it appeared to me that SF was throwing the ball more when McDuffie, in specific, was in the game during what one might consider "running downs." McDuffie did well on two of those plays, and then on another he was way late in following Jennings out to the flat. I will await review of the tapes prior to opining more.

It's hard to rate players when considering many of these guys are likely playing with some injury and are less than 100%. I am thinking of Campbell, Savage, Jenkins, Watson, Alexander, and Gary in specific. To me, it has been obvious that Savage is still not right with his shoulder and was protecting it on tackles since his return. Campbell looked slow to me at times, as well.... Like reaction/tentative slow. We need them and hope they get well now. I think Gary's issue may be more scheme related. The Packers were trying to keep the QBs in the pocket, counting on heavy interior push to collapse the pocket on them.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:29 am

McDuffie plays HARD, and brings the nasty! I agree with you that Campbell has not been right for some time, although I have no idea of his injuries. Most of our LBs have been playing hurt and moving slow, for several games.

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PeteK's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:42 am

All true, and looking at the Niners ILBs made me feel a bit disappointed in Walker's play. I thought he would be more of a dynamic player because of where he played in college and draft position, I feel the same with Wyatt, but his pedestrian play is hidden because of the good performance of other players.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:36 pm

There's too many times Walker shows no fight vs the run game and gets pushed a couple yards downfield before he reacts. Hopefully it's a mental thing and a new coaching staff can correct it but next year is a very important one for him.

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gsd3's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:09 am

Mason Crosby hit on 79.5% of FGA his rookie season. Carlson is frustrating but hopefully will improve.
Very hard to say who stays or goes on the defensive side of the ball. If Barry is fired, the new DC may elect to run a 4-3 as opposed to a 3-4.
Hoping they can do something contract wise to keep Aaron Jones. Could see them cutting or trading Bahktiari, which would free up 20 mil or so in cap space.
I know he is older but how about a 1-2 punch of Aaron Jones and Derrick Henry?
Will be interesting and exciting moving forward. Future looks bright.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:38 am

I can't imagine GB signs any star FAs this coming season, no matter who they cut. There isn't the cap space to bring back everybody they'd like to. I'm not sure how much cap space is already dead in 2025, but I hope they don't mortgage the future with more void years now ... they could underspend and add it to the 2025 cap.

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fireball's picture

January 21, 2024 at 07:20 am

Close, but no cigar.

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tobinrote's picture

January 21, 2024 at 08:00 am

Love as you said did not have a good game; i thought he reverted to October form in the last quarter. But he is surely our qb for the future. The one position replacement besides kicker and perhaps long snapper that is absolutely a must is the D coordinator. I agree with the post above that Campbell just looked slow, but it is an absolute must to retain Jones; he just is the soul of the team, the most beloved player since Driver, Kuhn, and Leroy B. But oh the what ifs from that game: Love on a tush push when you have Jones? I had no problem with going for it on fourth, but ..... I like very much our receiving corps and with that many number 2s and even with Watson not a very likely number 1, it cannot be a matter for a first day draft selection. still think we need a center and of course some safeties. I would think we would want to keep Nixon

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Madfan's picture

January 21, 2024 at 09:50 am

I very much appreciate these summaries and comments.

Last summer, when I looked at this season I wanted it to be interesting (in a good way) and entertaining. The second half was. In part, I was amazed at how the offensive plays could scheme open a wide receiver. And last evening we saw WRs wide open a number of times. I also have been impressed by the release footwork and the single and double moves of the wide receivers. I'm more than happy to see passes caught by five, six or seven WRs, TEs and RBs a game. I also enjoyed the maturing of the offense line.

I know it is too early to get deeply into the draft, but I tend to agree with the draft and free agents needs mentioned. My main comment/question whether two guards are needed. With Jenkin's age, I could see a draft and develop guard. I don't see Newman in that role. With Runyan's likely departure, of course there is an immediate need. Perhaps Rhyan is ready. For swing tackle, I have no idea whether Caleb Jones and/or Luke Tenuta are ready to be the swing tackle. If they aren't then GB needs to fine one.

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BruceC1960's picture

January 21, 2024 at 10:25 am

TGR….another great column. What are the options with 69? Cap # way to high to keep. Tough to trade with price and health issues. I realize none of the missed games are his fault. However he must admit that he has been compensated quite well the last few years for the number of games played. I can’t see him signing with the Jets with the artificial turf issues. Packer nation will go crazy if he gives another team a team friendly deal based largely on incentives. Would the Packers offer such a deal and would he take it? Will be interesting.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:04 am

Good season, good roster. We’ll be better next year. I’d load up the offense so we can score more than 21 points.

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PeteK's picture

January 21, 2024 at 11:52 am

I would go for balance.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2024 at 12:31 pm

Balance is always good, but offense wins. Look at the teams remaining.....SF, Baltimore, Buffalo, KC, Detroit, ......these are among the best offenses in the league. In fact, it is entirely possible t hat the #3,#4,#5, and #6 scoring offenses will be the only ones left standing after this weekend. Offense is possession, possession is control, and you try to control the game with your offense.

On offense, Runyan, Nijman, and Dillon will all probably leave in FA. Jones is a possible cap casualty because despite his ability, he's old and expensive and he spends time injured. I'm not sure you can rely on him to be the lead dog over 17 games and playoffs, but that's what you're paying him like.

Defensively, we're not going to lose a lot of guys. Savage maybe/probably. Possibly PSmith and/or Campbell. If the past is any guide, we' ll use the the first pick on defense...probably a DB....and we'll use our Day Two picks on skill position players and OL

We could get two starters on the OL, and two premium RBs. Give Love the blocking and weaponry he needs for a 20 game season.

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stockholder's picture

January 21, 2024 at 01:01 pm

I don't see anything wrong with the OL now.
It's the depth that cannot replace the starting 5.
If a TOP OT drops great.
Regardless- No OL outside the 1st rd, will be a starter
for the Packers.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:10 pm

The depth is part of the Oline. We dress 9, and every one of them needs to be good enough to start. Assuming the departure of Runyan and Nijman, we have 4 starters plus Rhyan.

I’m looking at Day 2 guys like Patrick Paul, Tyler Guyton, Jordan Morgan, Cooper Bebe. I think they could start, if needed.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:40 pm

Guyton and Morgan are probably 1st rounders by the time the combine is over. Both need technique help but are very good athletes.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 21, 2024 at 02:38 pm

KC isn't one of the best offenses this year but their defense is really good.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 21, 2024 at 03:41 pm

"SF, Baltimore, Buffalo, KC, Detroit, ......these are among the best offenses in the league."

And all of them have top 10 defense!

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GregC's picture

January 21, 2024 at 09:13 pm

TGR: Thanks for reminding me about Doubs' chest injury. I was wondering why he went out of bounds when he could've gained an extra five yards or so.

The difference in the game, essentially, was that the Packers dropped two easy interceptions, and the 49ers caught both of theirs. Also, I think the Packers wore down a bit in the fourth quarter. That's where the 49ers extra week of rest made a difference. Look what happened in the Texans-Ravens game. The Ravens were well-rested and owned the second half. The Packers needed to hit the 49ers early and hard, and they couldn't do it.

Savage is supposed to be fast, but he sure looked slow on that Kittle TD. Maybe he's playing hurt. At any rate, he did not have a good enough year to earn a new contract. The safeties were not the disaster that most of us feared they would be this year, but none of them are particularly good either. It's time to draft one in the first or second round if possible. That's the most glaring need. After that, it's RB followed by OL, although not necessarily OT anymore after how Tom and Walker played down the stretch.

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murph27's picture

January 23, 2024 at 07:04 am

Thanks for the article and all the articles this year.

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