Which Packers WR Takes the Next Big Step Forward in 2024?
By GilMartin
The Green Bay Packers have a young and talented group of wide receivers on their roster as we head into the 2024 NFL Draft. The team has no players with more than two years of NFL experience on the roster, but they are an exciting group who finished the season strong. They also still have the potential to get better both individually and as a unit. With Jordan Love entering his second year as a starter, there are even more opportunities for the passing offense to improve this season. But which receiver is most likely to take the biggest leap forward in 2024? Here are the top four candidates as of now:
First Candidate: Christian Watson
Christian Watson is entering his third season. He clearly has the size and speed to be a dominant receiver in the NFL. The former North Dakota State star made a big jump from a small school to the Packers, but by the second half of his rookie campaign, he put together a string of outstanding performances that highlighted his potential.
The biggest obstacle facing Watson seems to be his health. Hamstring injuries limited him to just nine games in 2023 and had him on a play count for several others. As a result, he caught just 28 passes for 442 yards and five touchdowns last season.
If Watson can stay healthy this year and be a bit more consistent with his hands and a bit more precise with his pass patterns, he has Pro Bowl potential. Will this be the year that Watson realizes it?
Second Candidate: Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed made a strong first impression in his first NFL campaign. The former Michigan State star led the Packers with 64 catches and 793 yards despite missing one game and playing only 56 percent of the team’s offensive snaps.
Reed has good speed and burst and the ability to create separation from defenders. He played primarily in the slot but also has the ability to line up on the perimeter.
Reed dropped only three passes in 94 targets according to pro-football-reference.com. If he makes a second-year jump, he could easily be the team’s next number one receiver.
Third Candidate: Dontayvion Wicks
Dontayvion Wicks played a bigger role than expected for a fifth-round draft choice. The former Viriginia star played in 13 games and started six for the Packers. He finished the season strong, catching six passes in two of his final three games during the regular season. He also had a touchdown catch in the Packers playoff win against Dallas.
He finished his rookie year with 39 catches for 581 yards and four touchdowns. Three of those came in the last two regular season games.
Wicks has good hands and the ability to get open deep. He showed good chemistry with Love as the season progressed. Wicks could surprise everybody and earn a bigger role in 2024 which could lead to a breakthrough season.
Fourth Candidate: Romeo Doubs
Romeo Doubs may not be the Packers most dynamic receiver, but he is arguably their most consistent. He does many things well even if he’s not elite in any particular area.
Doubs caught 59 catches for 674 yards and tied for the team lead with eight receiving touchdowns.
Doubs has worked with Love extensively in practice and over the offseason and has excellent chemistry with his young signal caller.
Since Love often looks for Doubs in the red zone or on key third-down plays, he should get plenty of opportunities to make plays in his third NFL season. If he gets enough snaps, the former Nevada star could easily be the Packers breakout receiver in 2024.
The Packers have a lot of potential breakout players at the receiver position. If at least one of them takes a big step forward in 2024, the passing game could go to another level next season.
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Comments (135)
Starrbrite
March 23, 2024 at 12:03 pm
It’s gonna be Van Ness—he’s a poor man’s TJ Watt.
Go Packers!!!
Starrbrite
March 23, 2024 at 12:04 pm
Forgive me, I know this is about receivers, but I couldn’t help myself.
Dzehren
March 24, 2024 at 11:32 pm
Go away troll.
golfpacker1
March 23, 2024 at 12:09 pm
WOW, we are really loaded @ WR. Melton is an underrated keeper and we haven't even seen what DuBose has to offer. And Maliek Heath is probably a WR5 on most teams.
It's nice we are so strong @ WR, it lets GB focus on the actual needs this year, OL, S, LB, RB, and CB.
dblbogey
March 23, 2024 at 11:11 pm
I agree, but with the inevitable injuries, and the possibility maybe somebody regresses, I wouldn't mind a 3rd or 4th round WR pick if someone they really like maybe falls to them. But I agree, build that OL, especially inside, CB. Linebacker is a big need, but it's not a strength of this draft.
splitpea1
March 23, 2024 at 12:25 pm
Too difficult to say with such a plethora of receiving options, including the TEs. I think Kraft will put up bigger numbers for sure. But the player we'd really like to see break out is Watson, because if he does, it will probably mean we're lighting up the scoreboard like a pinball machine.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:23 pm
I'd love to see that!
The case can be made that every one of our WRs improves, which is what I'd like to see the most from this group. They all can't have "a breakout year," there's only one ball to go around.
Our O line will impact the success of this offense more.
Dzehren
March 24, 2024 at 11:40 pm
Hopefully Watson will be available. Injury history is prevalent. Hoping Reed continues ascending.
Remember the days of the fab 5
Driver Jennings Jordy Cobb Jones Jermichael
We all new who the #1 receiver was in # 87
gsd3
March 23, 2024 at 12:35 pm
I would hope it's Watson. Kinda bad that he has become something of an after- thought. If no one is added I can easily see DuBose replacing Toure. Just hoping for health in the receiver room. If they are blessed with good health, the natural progression will be something to see.
Must say my favorite is Doubs though.
dblbogey
March 23, 2024 at 11:13 pm
Doubs is a keeper. Dontayvion Wicks was amazing as a 5th rounder. We'll see if he's the real deal.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:26 pm
DuBose is a natural substitute for Wicks when he's out due to injury, just as Bo Melton is for #9.
The way Wicks dragged multiple defenders down the field with him was quite something! #11 needs to be seen as WR1. If JL10 targets him when he's open regardless what else is going on, they're going to win a lot of games.
bjkdad44
March 25, 2024 at 07:51 pm
Why the down vote?… ppl need to explain!
PackEyedOptimist
March 23, 2024 at 12:44 pm
Hopefully ALL of them!
I think the two best blockers will start: Watson and Wicks.
That gives them the edge.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:28 pm
Dillon at FB, Jacobs at RB, 1 TE and those two at WR would be hard to stop if they have a dominant line.
Llew
March 25, 2024 at 08:09 am
There...you said it! It's all about the O-line. The rest of the tools on offense are already there.
LLCHESTY
March 23, 2024 at 12:48 pm
Wicks would be my choice. Plus footwork and route running is more important than athletic talent at WR and Wicks is the most advanced in that department. If Watson misses anytime Wicks could take the X spot and not give it back without a fight.
Johnblood27
March 23, 2024 at 01:02 pm
I love the youth and potential of the current WR room.
That said, Gutey should draft one in this years draft.
Wait a minute before you down vote me (again!)...
The room will thin out in a couple years, every receiver will not continue upward trajectory and even if they do, the salary cap will not allow all to get paid and stay.
Gutey must stagger new blood into the room, it is how a team can fully utilize the talent that costs them the most against the cap, namely the QB. He needs targets, preferably in a consistent level talent-wise without the peaks and troughs that can lead to inconsistent seasons.
We are loaded right now, TE as well as WR,, but one more to develop will not hurt.
PackyCheese500
March 23, 2024 at 01:07 pm
Maybe as a late-round flyer, but I don't see them cutting one of Melton or Heath. They should
wait at least a year, when Watson and Doubs are entering contract years. Besides, we have other more pressing needs (OL, LB, DB). Better to completely address those this year, IMO
BA4Pack
March 23, 2024 at 01:59 pm
Wild thought here but maybe trade Watson for a 2nd, trade the extra second and #25 and move into the top 10 and pick Nabors from LSU.
A true #1 that will open up everyone else and on a 5 yr. contract that overlaps the other WR’s.
Heresy I know but you never know. Gute did mention trading and moving around.
DoubleJ
March 23, 2024 at 02:22 pm
Watson can be a true number 1 as well. It is easy to forget that when he was healthy, and I mean 90-100% and not just playing injured like he did early, the offense was great. He constantly drew double coverage and was still able to get open. Look at what he did to Detroit and KC (before he injured his hamstring). He was easily the best WR out there from both teams. I guess I don't see the point in trading away a young player that is known to be able to compete and succeed in the NFL for a draft pick.
jont
March 23, 2024 at 01:58 pm
John, I'd never down vote a good family man such as yourself-- your pride in your hardworking nieces is clear in your photo-- but the team has some pressing needs at other positions to cover in this draft. Let's look to Melton and Dubose as the development guys.
Packman60
March 23, 2024 at 04:06 pm
I agree with your reasoning that we need to continue to add talent and draft to stagger the contracts. I just think you're a year too early. Everyone of those wideouts is under contract for 2 years or more and are still developing. There is no need to add one this year when we have so many additional needs to cover: Safety LB, CB, Edge depth RB and especially O-line depth. Next year will be early enough and we will have a better idea of the need after another year of on the field performance from this group.
Johnblood27
March 23, 2024 at 06:28 pm
GB has 11... count em!... ELEVEN picks this year!
If one pick cannot be spared for the reasons I give above there is no preventive maintenance/succession planning going on for this roster... and you and I know that is NOT true!
Look for a WR in this draft... just sayin'
NitschkeFan
March 24, 2024 at 10:45 am
John, I don't think anyone would mind using the late picks on an additional WR. But truthfully what are the odds that a WR taken at pick 219, 245, 255 will become significant NFL starter?
7th round. That is where they got Grant Duboise and Samori Toure. That late in the draft the top 25 prospects at WR have already been taken. Maybe you get lucky with the 26th prospect at WR.
So sure take a chance with those later picks but you will need to cut someone off the team (like Duboise or Toure) so don't get your hopes up that you are actually getting replacements for a #1 or #2 WR.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:37 pm
What is gained by replacing DuBose or Toure? And Toure is clearly WR8.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 04:48 pm
Another PR or a faster Lazard.
Remember it's all about the red zone
Coldworld
March 25, 2024 at 09:41 am
A faster Lazard? Musgrave is faster and stronger. Kraft is a true TE which we lacked in Lazards time here. Heath is as physical and Dubose might well be too, not to mention that Wicks is a big physical and much more gifted receiver.
Johnblood27
March 28, 2024 at 02:42 pm
OMG!!!
Donald Driver, 7th round draft selection!
C'mon man!
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:34 pm
One pick needs to go to LS. One pick might go to QB. One pick might go to EDGE. One pick will almost certainly go to RB, maybe 2.
Wait til next year for WR. When this crop is due for a second contract, they will need to be thinned and we'll need a developmental pipeline already in place.
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 05:08 pm
Number one, the Green Bay Packers were the youngest team in the NFL last year, by a fair amount. For them to get younger/preventive maintenance/succession, they might have to let high school kids play.
Does GB even have a WR that has been in the NFL 3 years yet? We don't need to draft one just to say we did. There is probably less than a 10% chance that a WR drafted in the 7th round will beat out any of the current WRs, so why not spend the pick on a Safety or LB or OL or Whatever position group that needs players?
HammertimeSince’89
March 23, 2024 at 06:40 pm
They downvote like they think we’re gonna be in a different place than the Bengals are this off-season…wr1 are $25 million and going up so if Watson breaks out and Doubs stays consistent then hey will both be in that range or more …the games changing and receivers are like OLine now…
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 12:36 pm
And the salary cap will have gone up $25 to $30 million twice. Your $25 million for a WR is the pinnacle players as well.
HammertimeSince’89
April 01, 2024 at 09:16 am
If Watson puts up the numbers he has when heathy he will be $25+ and Doubs will be Higgins price and the Bengals are still letting Boyd walk…with Musgrave Kraft Wicks and Reed to resign the very next year…yes another X receiver to relieve the pressure of trying to hang on to them all after next season is a luxury a year early but a solid idea and I’d hate to spend the entire increase in the cap yearly on one contract your point that the salary cap increases is facts implying we will use 100% of that increase to keep one WR is not how those increases work they make the new contracts bigger than the last new ones
Crystalblue1
March 23, 2024 at 08:55 pm
Totally agree..This is Doubs and Watsons third year in which usually try and get them signed after this season so they aren’t playing without any guarantees their final season.If Watson can stay upright throughout my god THAT young man WILL BE A STAR,but if he can’t this season,but still show that crazy potential then he will be a trade piece.So yes u keep filtering in players especially if a stud falls to us u know Gutey is gonna jump on him.We have 11 picks people just relax with the WE HAVE SO MANY PRESSING NEEDS
HammertimeSince’89
April 01, 2024 at 09:26 am
Exactly my main point was view the WR room like we do the OT room and keep adding young players not just 7th rounders but guys who make signing those players redundant…Thomas Jr or Mitchell after a trade back would be my ideal scenario…allows us leverage with Watson (if he breaks out) insurance for Watson( in case he isn’t “healed”) and frees us up to trade Watson AFTER next year if sides are far apart…addressing needs with rookies to plug in and start right away at areas of obvious weaknesses makes me point to Jack Campbell’s year this past season as a great pick that I think will develop but is playing checkers…drafting at positions of strength a year early is chess
CheeseEdWest2
March 24, 2024 at 12:09 pm
If not this year, next. What you point out is something that the previous GM missed: stocking the cupboard so that was a continuous influx of new talent.
PackyCheese500
March 23, 2024 at 01:04 pm
My pick would be Wicks. Best WR in the league against man coverage. But if Watson can stay healthy, I could see him eclipsing 1,000 yds
HammertimeSince’89
April 01, 2024 at 09:35 am
I agree Wicks is our Ace in the hole…does he play or does he project as an X full time? I ask bc it’s clear Watson adds an element this offense must have to win Super Bowl and I do believe Wicks could have same influence on offense but didn’t seem to be used the same way last year…maybe we see the offense evolve this year to incorporate both Watson and Wicks field stretching abilities
Packers0808
March 23, 2024 at 01:05 pm
With what they do, do we really need a No.1? Seems what difference does it make if you have a catalog instead of just one page?
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:45 pm
WR1 in the sense of JL10 always looks for him first and throws to him if he's open just to get the ball out fast. That is #11, or should be. A lot of games would be won if they take that approach ...
Out of the current 8 WRs I can see Reed Watson and Wicks, with Melton in reserve, as the long term answer. IF #9's hamstring issue is solved, of course. If they could afford to keep more, I can't predict Doubs Heath or DuBose as next, but without #9 it's clearly Doubs IMHO.
An embarrassment of riches! And Toure's still no slouch, and might make a third year leap?
Packer_Fan
March 23, 2024 at 01:29 pm
Wicks is my guy. Quick twitch and hard to bring down. Then Reed. He is going to get better with the slot and jet sweeps. Watson if he stays healthy. All three of these guys can make a big difference. Doubs will only and always be a possession receiver.
LLCHESTY
March 23, 2024 at 01:55 pm
I would have agreed with you on Doubs before the playoffs but he tore it up when it mattered. I said when he was drafted his upside was a high #2 and he still needs some work to get to that level. Big season for him and Watson.
DoubleJ
March 23, 2024 at 02:24 pm
Don't forget that the Cowboys also were doubling to tripling Watson on almost every play he was out there. That left a lot of single coverage for other players. Not to mention LaFluer called some sick routes to bust the Cowboys' coverage tendencies.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:48 pm
Agreed. TRIPLE coverage going to #9 and that almost never gets mentioned?!? That's a game changer, even if he gets 0 catches.
cdoemel
March 24, 2024 at 12:16 am
Why do you say “possession receiver“ like it’s a bad thing? Possession receivers are the guys you can always count on. Great hands. Shifty. Doubs has great balance and vision and control of his body. He’s more than shown his worth and potential. He’s young, he’s healthy and productive. Not a pencil ankle racehorse who’ll be out 7 games a season. Build your offense around Dobbs, Jacobs, and our tight ends moving the ball, then sprinkle in some racehorse action.
Packer_Fan
March 24, 2024 at 12:32 pm
I don't think that Doubs will become an Adams like receiver. That doesn't mean that Doubs won't do well. I think that all four will do well at the expectation that Love will be playing that well. I can see all four having 800+ yard receiving, Melton near 500 with Musgraves and Kraft over 500 yards. We have two years of having a killer offense and if Jacobs plays well, the offense will be a monster offense. And then the rookie contracts run out. But until then, let the NFL be put on notice.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:50 pm
This is exactly why I say O line needs to be priority #1.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:46 pm
Possession receivers win games.
stockholder
March 23, 2024 at 01:47 pm
It won't be Toure or Melton.
I would draft a wr -
Johnny Wilson!
golfpacker1
March 23, 2024 at 04:56 pm
Thats my guy Stock, from the beginning he reminded me of Darrin Waller when he came out of Georgia Tech and was drafted by the Raiders. Not only is Wilson big and fast, but he also blocks like a TE.
I thought he would be a hybrid weapon that would be impossible to cover, playing TE one play & WR the next. We won't have a chance because he will go in the 3rd or 4th.
It will be interesting to see how he is used by the team that drafts him.
jannesbjornson
March 23, 2024 at 07:27 pm
There will be Blood, derision and mockery:
#27 Jordan Morgan LT Arizona
#41 Cooper Beebe OG K State
#45 Kam Kinchens S U
#88 Bucky Irving RB Oregon
#90 M. Kneeland DE W Mich.
#91 Cam Hart CB Notre Dame
#126 Jaden Hicks SS WASU
#141 Eichenberg LB OSU
#192 Ulofoshio LB WASH.
#219 Dallin Holker FB C.State
#245 Kimani Vidal RB Troy
Trade for veteran LB, OG
Crystalblue1
March 23, 2024 at 08:57 pm
We have the 25th pick Not The 27th
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 10:05 am
It is called a trade down.
stockholder
March 23, 2024 at 09:21 pm
Trades don't work.
FAs only.
He wouldn't have let Runyan go.
If he didn't think Rhyan could handle it.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 07:09 pm
Or, pay Runyan the money Gotham City tossed his way.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 07:18 pm
Regardless they could have paid it.
Rhyan is in regardless of his suspension.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 07:25 pm
He's not suspended. He can compete with Beebe, or Coleman to be the starter. If he wins the job, fine. He's a Gutedkunst pick who I thought would be the Tauscher guy at RT, but they like to project players. The point being the offensive line has to improve. Love is the # One Asset for this franchise. He will have to draft three guys and bring in UDFAs. The P squad projects do not interest me.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 08:38 am
I'm sticking with DEJEAN.
25. Cooper DeJean CB. Iowa.
41. Payton Wilson. ILB. NC
58. Javon Bullard. S Geo.
88. Christian Jones. OT. Tex.
91. Cullen Bullock. S USC.
126. Mason McCormick. G S. Dak st
169 Nat Watson LB. Miss
202. Jace McClellan. RB. Alabama
219 Jowon Briggs. NT. Cinn
245. CJ Hanson. G Holy Cross
255. Jaheim Bell RB FS
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 09:23 am
That's a great draft JJ. In my unexpert view, it seems like the mock drafts have a much higher level of success filling the Packers biggest needs with the better players, if one simple rule is followed.
PICK AN OL WITH THE FIRST PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything flows better from there. The best players @ the PON fall in place with the next 4 picks,
#25 or trade back OL
#41 Best LB
#58 Best Safety
#88 & #91 are wildcards. We can stay there and take Best CB @ #88 and take best RB @ #91. Or a slight trade back with either or both gives us at most 6 shots in the 4th & 5th rounds.
Fill the biggest need with our first pick, OL. GB can still get very good CB, S, LB, in all of the subsequent rounds. WE need to be patient and let the draft come to us.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 12:05 pm
Sorry gp1- I just don't agree on a OT @25.
@25 the All-pro generation OTs are gone.
Morgan isn't a sure thing.
He's a pick you'd be happy with,
but not at LT. Projection:
He will be a LG in the long run.
IIMO there are lots of guards in this draft.
And a Lot of Rts. Later.
#88 and 91 should be either OL or S depth.
Really some guys that wouldn't be busts
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 12:45 pm
Stock, realistically @ #25 to #32, aren't we looking at an OT, Morgan in this case, that will have a chance to replace a starter or be a really quality backup? That's what Morgan would be. I usually take King Sua over Morgan but he was gone. But show me anyone @ #25 who is a sure thing.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 04:28 pm
No- I still think your looking at CB or Safety.
@25 A sure thing -
Dejean- Always a Fit.
Nubin- He's plenty fast for a SS.
Wilson- Todays NFL ILB Why - major Need.
And by all means, you take - Powers Johnson
over any OL consideration.@25
I'd include Kool-Aid, but I don't like foot injuries.
TT took the player that dropped in the first.
Truthfully Gute should take OL in rd. 3.
Don't reach for a Cb there, or a Safety climbing.
Pff rated Mason McCormick in the 3rd now.
Oppy
March 24, 2024 at 01:35 pm
"@25 the All-pro generation OTs are gone."
Guys like Bakhtiari are long gone by pick #25...
And let's be honest, who would want to draft a OT who's not an "all -pro generational" player in the first round.
I mean, sure, you might find a guy like Chad Clifton or Mark Tauscher, but they're wishy-washy bums and neither of those players would have been worth a first round pick.
Are you picking up my sarcasm?
If there is an OT the Packers like @25, I sincerely hope they don't take your advice.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 04:31 pm
Do we need to replace Walker and TOM.
That is the question @25
Jenkins? - Not happening.
Versatility before replacement
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 06:31 pm
Walker will get Love a trip to the IR if he fills the spot in 2024.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 06:48 pm
Common JB . He faced the best guys in the play-offs.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 07:15 pm
He gave up six sacks and 9 penalties in 11 games. He's the swing guy. Dallas has been working Morgan out and pick @ #24. He would have gone in Rd one, last year, before his knee injury. Most of these 6'-7/6'-8 OTs are boat anchors and teams are now shying away from having stiffs at the RT position with the desire of defenses to bring the pass rush from every direction, simultaneously. You cannot waste TE looks to be chipping Edge guys, instead of being offensive targets. The days of Ted drafts are over.
golfpacker1
March 25, 2024 at 09:58 am
I hope Dallas does take Morgan @ #24. That means Powers-Johnson is still there and we would get an A+ for filling to positions. Or some teams could be calling to give us the "Godfather Trade", by making us an offer we can't refuse.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:54 pm
I like your idea of the first two picks going to the O line. After that? Meh.
Plus, who do you give up for veteran LB and IOL? C needs to be a priority, assuming they want to keep Zach Tom at OT.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 06:46 pm
There will be deals during and after the draft. A #5-6 pick usually gets some attention, if a team wants to move a guy. Eichenberg was 1st team Big Ten and knows how to play the position from blitzing to the hook zones. I don't need any more chase LBs who cannot plug a gap. Cam Hart is a bigger CB who stops runners and positions on the perimeter, not another lightweight getting some injury every other game. Kam Kinchens is still the best FS and Hicks fits the Box safety spot. Beebe should be able to start at RG, or back both spots if Rhyan can show up.
I still like Morgan's footwork and slide similar to Bhak. All PAC-12, would have gone RD one in 2023. If you want a guy fill A.Jones role, Irving has the juice, Dillon doesn't. Next week we start putting Money on the selections and see who wins the Kitty.
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 07:05 pm
country's consensus All-Americans
Is what you have to look at:
DE Laiatu Latu, UCLA
DL Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
DL T'Vondre Sweat, Texas
DL Jonah Elliss, Utah
LB Payton Wilson, NC State
LB Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
LB Dallas Turner, Alabama
DB Cooper DeJean, Iowa
DB Xavier Watts, Notre Dame
DB Malaki Starks, Georgia
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 07:35 pm
I know the List. Starks is the best safety from Georgia, but he's an underclassman, as is Watts. I always mock T Sweat because he dominates INSIDE and will not be rag-dolled like a lighter, gap jumping DT. The Aaron Donalds only come along every so often and he got sick of the DBL team beatdowns. I like Jonah Ellis as the speed guy off the edge. De Jean was our guy since Nov, medicals? Wilson and Cooper in Rd two along with Gray. Morgan was 2nd team ALl-American. T. Sweat and the Texas crew schooled the Washington O-line.
jannesbjornson
March 23, 2024 at 07:15 pm
Devontez Walker is the field stretcher.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 06:26 pm
He's a TE.
BA4Pack
March 23, 2024 at 02:12 pm
Crazy thought but trade Watson for a second rounder. Trade that second rounder and our first to move up and draft Nabors from LSU.
That would be our true number one and it would open everything up for everyone else.
Gute did say he was open to trading a player for a pick and moving around the draft board.
I know Heresy…let me
have it.
BA4Pack
March 23, 2024 at 02:13 pm
That would also be a five year contract to overlap with all the other WR contracts.
golfpacker1
March 23, 2024 at 04:58 pm
And why do we need a WR1? This is really working good now because we can have a new one every week.
Oppy
March 23, 2024 at 10:40 pm
Not sure why you'd get down votes for making an innocuous (and factual) statement like this. I'm guessing we have some dim-witted voters around here.
You are correct, of course. The Packers could end up with a real problem retaining the WR room in a couple of years do to so many WRs having contracts expiring in the same year.
**edit** Okay, I just realized you were also the original poster that suggested trading Watson in the first place, lol. Now I get it. I thought you had only replied that a new, 1st round WR would give the Packers a player with a potential 5 year contract to bridge the gap... yeah, I'm not necessarily on board with trading Watson. While I don't think he's the most talent WR on the roster- I think he may be 3rd or lower- he IS supremely athletic and a match up problem that really opens up everything for all the other receivers on the field. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and draft picks are nothing more than a crap shoot.
PhantomII
March 23, 2024 at 02:27 pm
The WR group is THE strength of this team....So getting the RIGHT group of OL is paramount to our offensive dominance. The top 3 of 5 picks need to be 2-IOL and 1-OT. All of whom need to be Mauler types in the run game. Our new RB1 is a between the tackles runner and would fit best with this OL makeup. The closest way to the end zone is straight ahead....and that's how we should roll. A great RB with speed and good size should also be high enough to enable our offense not to lose traction in case of injury. If we fix the OL with young ascending players we could be dominant for years to come with minimal salary on the OL and a cheaper RB prospect and WR group coming into it's own. I am more for Vet Defensive players as they would be able to handle their spots and give us the ball back at a higher clip to put points up. I don't really care if we ever have a traditional #1 WR as the past has proven throwing primarily to one WR in the playoffs is a disaster waiting to happen. Spread it around to everyone that is open......As far as I'm concerned we have 7-#2 WR's on this team...It's unprecedented. Fix the OL for good this draft and get a quality future starting RB and strengthen what we can't afford on Defense with the best rotational players we can at S / LB / CB / DL.
golfpacker1
March 23, 2024 at 05:06 pm
Phantom, the closer we get to the draft, OL has been and is still the #1 need. That should be the first pick we make whether @ #25 or after a trade back. LB has moved to need #2 since we didn't sign a FA. I would say Safety @ #58 now since Nubin and Kinchens have dropped due to their bad testing fiascos. One or both are maybe there still.
CB and RB @ #88 & #91, although I predict a trade back from #91 to early 4th, and we will pick up an extra 4th or an early 5th. RB would stiil work early 4th, but not as late as #126.
DL is not really a need, might have to grab a run stopping FA there after the draft. Unless we can score Boyd-UNI. That's where a trade back @ #91 into early 4th and gaining another 4th or 5th would come into play. the extra pick gives us the bonus of Boyd.
PhantomII
March 23, 2024 at 08:30 pm
Some players will be let go by teams post draft and we may get that benefit on the defensive or OL side of things..GPG
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 04:58 pm
IOL has to take up at least one more pick higher than #91. We're losing 4.
GregC
March 23, 2024 at 05:43 pm
I keep hearing OL, OL, OL in the draft, but I'm just not seeing the need for multiple offensive linemen in the first three rounds. The Packers already have a good offensive line. They need depth, and they need a possible replacement for Josh Myers if they don't think he's worth a second contract after next season. (And judging by the contract Jon Runyon got, he probably isn't.) So I think we only need one OL in the first three rounds, although two would be understandable due to the talent at those positions in this year's draft. Then another one or two later in the draft. We still need a safety and an LB in the first three rounds, and we are in need of depth at DE and CB. Also, if a really good RB is sitting there in the first three rounds, they should think about taking him, because A.J. Dillon is not the future and is not even a very good #2 RB.
PhantomII
March 23, 2024 at 09:00 pm
The lack of run game prowess and pass game effectiveness has knocked us out of every playoff game in the last 4+ years. We win games against most teams. It's the better teams like SF that have a tough 4 man front that we have a tough time getting past. They rush 4-man DL and we need 5-OL plus a RB and at least 1-TE to slow them down to give the QB enough time to throw....SO...That's 7-players stopping 4 and only 4 of our offenses players going for a pass covered by (7) defensive players who are pretty good players also. The same thing happens in the run game as we need 1-2 TE's to also block and WR's to get a conversion. Every team does that but we need extra TE's just to beat a 4 man front and the hole often closes quickly. If you watch the SF game it looks literally like 8 men in the box every play because we cannot or will not put enough WR's on the field to open the field up. When we get the right OL personnel we can put more playmakers on the field and do a better job of making good teams guess what we a re doing and have more mismatches wether running or passing. Hopefully our OL spent the offseason in the weight room and we can be more effective....We need Mauler OL with an attitude
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 09:41 am
You are arguing your own argument Greg. First you say you don't see the need for multiple OL in the first 3 rounds. Then you say 2 would be understandable because of the talent that will be available this year.
2 OL the first 2 days would be the biggest talent infusion this team needs. If the OL fails we go nowhere. We don't need 2 OL the first 2 picks, but picking one with our first pick is imperative. We could easily justify taking 2 OL in the first 5 picks, But we should not double up on any other position group in the top 6 picks.
I am not knocking Stockholders mock draft that was several posts earlier, but that's a great example for what happens if we don't take an OL with our first pick. I love my Hawkeye player Cooper DeJean, and Payton Wilson too, but every pick after them is affected when an OL isn't taken first. It's like we are then choosing the middle of the position group players at the rest of our picks. They are not upgrades either.
What is Christian Jones? The 20th best OT? What about Jase McClellen? Is he the 25th best RB this draft? Those are not even upgrades, but that's the talent level that is available by passing on those positions in the top 5 picks.
I really like Mason McCormick and Nat Wilson too. The first 5 picks in this draft should be home runs for the Packers, even with small tradebacks they will be. And those 5 picks will make this draft one of the best ever, or just a MEH draft.
GregC
March 24, 2024 at 12:39 pm
Phantom suggested taking 3 OL in the first three rounds of the draft, and I was suggesting that we take one or two and then take another one or two later. That's a significant distinction. I think the OL needs to be reinforced rather than re-tooled. Unlike our last couple of playoff losses (plus the loss in the elimination game against the Lions a couple years ago), I don't think OL underperformance was a major reason for the team's downfall this past year.
Which starter needs to be replaced on the OL? I'm not sure anybody does this year. I think Tom and Jenkins are both high quality and Rasheed Walker was playing very well by the end of the season. Myers is up-and-down. They will probably roll with him this year but not sign him to a second contract after the season, so they need to get a potential starter at center if possible. Sean Rhyan played a lot toward the end of last season and may well be a viable starter. He is also more of a power-type blocker who may fit with Jacobs as the primary back.
I just think there are greater needs for draft capital to be used at other positions rather than 3 OL in the first three rounds.
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 01:09 pm
Hey Greg, the extra OL pick would be @ #88 or #91. If we pick an OL in the first round, first we are looking for a starter @ OT or OG. Probably a better shot @ OG. Any OT we would draft there could supplant Toms or Walker, its possible but not a lock.
I really liked the Rhyan pick when we made it, as he was a very good OT @ UCLA. He looked like a strong player to compete @ OG/OT. His first year was a big disappointment. The second year was better, but year 3 will cement if he is a starter or a backup.
In this draft what we draft @ #25 or @ a tradeback will have a big impact on another OL being picked on the first 2 days. Unless Fautanu fell to # 25, I would take Powers-Johnson or Barton because they play at least 2 positions. They could replace Myers or Rhyan. If one of them is the pick, then there really are no OTs we would want on Day 2.
But if we picked an OT with the first pick, there would be multiple starting caliber OGs available in the 3rd round. I would be completely happy if we got OL, LB, S, CB, and RB with our first 5 picks.
GregC
March 24, 2024 at 01:57 pm
Yes, I would be happy with OL, LB, S, CB, and RB as well, maybe with DE or another OL in place of CB or RB. OL is looking like a good match for the #25 pick, and I am even warming up to the possibility of taking a G or C with that pick, which is something I've never wanted them to do (and which they haven't done since Aaron Taylor in the 90s).
I see your logic in getting an OT with that first pick, but I think there are options if they go with a CB/safety, with Cooper DeJean and Kool-Aid McKinstry looking like possibilities. It looks like there is still plenty of OL talent in rounds 2 and 3.
I don't like the idea of moving Zach Tom back inside. I think that if you find an OT who is that good, you stick with him. Why mess with success? He's more valuable out there than he would be playing inside. At this point, it may also be hard to find an upgrade on Walker in the draft, although you could draft a guy who battles with him for the starting position opposite Tom, with the loser being the swing tackle.
Of course I am hoping the draft works out great and they have their cake and eat it too, as happened last year, but there are bound to be some unforeseen twists and turns!
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:08 pm
OL accounted for most of the losses this past season. It's not that we expect a rookie to start anywhere, it's that we have 0 depth on the interior, and the whole league knows we can't run behind C or RG.
The only O linemen to not extensively play hurt last year were Nijman and Rhyan. We're lucky that wasn't disastrous. You can't gamble your star QB's career like that.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:02 pm
You're losing FOUR O linemen.
You need competition at C and RG.
You can't count on going 2 for 2 in the draft. If two hit immediately and a third develops, you're fine. If the O line doesn't dominate all the way across you're wasting the entire team.
Dillon should be lead blocker, a receiving FB.
CoachJV
March 23, 2024 at 03:05 pm
I think it's going to boil down to Reed, Wicks, and Doubs being the top 3, with Melton in at 4... I don't think Watson is going to join the party. I'm betting it's another year hurt. He's the Kevin King of Offense.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:11 pm
I'm not betting either way on #9, but I agree with your personnel choice. I hope #9 stays injury free, in which case he's higher on the depth chart than Doubs. Melton should be his direct substitute when he's out due to injury, just to keep JL10 connected to that speed. I hope he practices a LOT with #9, 11 and 80 before OTAs ...
Leatherhead
March 23, 2024 at 03:18 pm
Reed and Doubs got the most targets, most receptions, and most yards. Reed had an excellent rookie season, and Doubs improved on a pretty good rookie season. They both stayed healthy for the entire season, and if they both stay healthy this entire season, they'll be the main dogs.
LLCHESTY
March 23, 2024 at 03:58 pm
You said the same thing about Amari Rodgers two years ago. As long as Reed stays healthy he'll be the main slot receiver but Doubs could easily be surpassed by Watson or Wicks. Wicks' three biggest games came were from week 11 on and he's better at getting off press and a better route runner than Doubs. It wouldn't shock me at all if 4 years from now Wicks is the best of the bunch.
golfpacker1
March 23, 2024 at 05:11 pm
Daubs literally catches everything along with the toughest catches LL. Blame me too on the Amari Rodgers pick. I thought he would take over for Cobb, but he never got his feet under him. AR never gave him a chance, and Amari was never going to be a KR. He lost all confidence in himself.
LLCHESTY
March 23, 2024 at 05:40 pm
Passer rating when thrown to Doubs-97. Passer rating when thrown to Wicks-115. Doubs' drop %-6.7. Wicks' drop%-5.3. Doubs caught a lower percentage of passes with lower average per catch.
Rodgers was signed by two other teams and is now in the USFL.
jannesbjornson
March 23, 2024 at 07:34 pm
If the ball is being delivered into the ground, or behind him as a volly of Love's early season passes were throw, a low catch rate may ensue.
Coldworld
March 24, 2024 at 11:08 am
Doubs is a different type of player. His upside is more as an Adams type. Now he may never be that good, but it’s a roke that is very valuable, as we saw in the playoffs. Watson and Wicks can both play X, but they are very different in terms if attributes and style. Wicks may be actually better as a big slot where he can use his burst and his long speed is less of an issue. Reed and Melton are very similar in build and strength. However they’d be great in tandem against certain defenses.
I foresee us shifting to an O with more personnel changes and more catchers out there than has been the norm in recent years (don’t forget Musgrave and Kraft) as a way of throwing defensive plans off and capitalizing on Loves willingness to spread the ball around.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 07:02 pm
There will be five-wide sets. Pick your poison. Score Points.
Leatherhead
March 24, 2024 at 01:47 pm
Please, pick a lane. I mean, you loved Doubs after minicamps and predicted him as a starter who'd leap over guys who were already here to catch over 50 passes as a rookie. Then, earlier in this very thread, you've praised Doubs as a guy who had really stepped up in the playoffs.
And now, you turn around, and say that because Wicks had a good rookie year, he'll leap over Doubs, who actually improved over a pretty good rookie year, or that Doubs will be replaced by a guy who can't stay on the field in Watson.
I know this isn't on a stat sheet, but Doubs and Reed stayed healthy and produced, and Doubs especially made many very big catches for us. He's not going to be supplanted by anybody as long as he's healthy, and he's the only WR who appeared in every game.
We play a lot of 3 WR formations, you know this. If we run 64 plays in a game, we'll probably have 3 WRs on the field about 40 times. That's 168 snaps available for WRs in a game. Doubs and Reed will be in the 50s, Watson and Wicks will each get around 30. Unless one of these four guys is injured, that's the way it'll shake out. Guys like Melton and Toure and Heath can play their asses off, but as long as the Top 4 are getting it done, they're going to get the opportunities and the others will have to wait for their chance.
This is one of the best WR units I've ever seen us put on the field. In 20 11, we had an awesome passing attack, we had guys like Driver and Cobb on the team,but the ball went to Jordy, Jennings, and Jones. And Finley and Quarless at TE.
Did you know that the TE got targeted 105 times that season? Finley got 92 of them. And that's why Musgrave and Kraft aren't going to get targeted 150 times this year, as you've indicated could happen. They're going to get targeted about 110 times, Doubs and Reed are our two main WRs, Watson and Wicks will be the #3 and #4 guys....probably the best #3 and #4 in the league. Our RB is going to get the ball on half the plays. IOW, there aren't going to be any big departures on offense from what we've done the last 5 years.
LLCHESTY
March 24, 2024 at 10:39 pm
Doubs did have a great postseason but Wicks has more upside. And I never said Doubs would leap over the starters, I said he'd be better than Rodgers, which you vehemently disagreed with.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:16 pm
Arguing over Wicks or just who will prove to be best are good problems to have :)
He's in the conversation for sure. In combination with Reed they make the whole team better!
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:13 pm
Reed did not even come CLOSE to staying healthy throughout the season! He played injured, a LOT. He played very well while injured. The man is a football player!
Alberta_Packer
March 23, 2024 at 03:25 pm
"Which Packers WR Takes the Next Big Step Forward in 2024?" Christian Watson - and hopefully many more (steps) to follow with a healthy hamstring.
lou
March 23, 2024 at 05:11 pm
Provided they all stay healthy the key will be keeping them together for several years withing the Cap structure, Thompson was able to do that with Nelson, Driver, Jennings and Jones.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:19 pm
4 great vets at WR seems to be the maximum anyone's been able to do. And along with two great TEs and a RB or two who are also reliable in the passing game, isn't that enough? As long as you've got younger players developing for depth, I think so.
Use a high pick like that, next year.
Coldworld
March 23, 2024 at 06:44 pm
Melton, only because he showed he’s come a long way in 2 seasons and we barely got a chance to see it.a chance to see it as a part of the offensive plan.
Musgrave, because he really is one and Kraft is the lead TE.
OK, slightly tongue in cheek. More seriously, the one I will be watching most critically is Watson. I was pretty disappointed that he hadn’t advanced more technically last summer. He still needs to perfect his craft. Maybe his family think it’s the Packers, but I think he’s got to realize he’s not a star yet and put in the work this off season, not merely fix his hamstring.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:23 pm
Agreed that #88 is a big bodied WR.
I'd like to see Melton held in reserve so he's fresh when needed to substitute for #9. If 9 proves he can be counted on, then having him #11 and Melton all on the field at the same time in big games? That would be a huge advantage that nobody had a chance to scout.
Oppy
March 23, 2024 at 10:45 pm
Bo Melton and Dontayvion Wicks are both nicely equipped to have big years in 2024.
Melton was exceptional in limited opportunities in 2023, he will likely struggle to see field time- but if there is a key injury and he gets to see the field on a regular basis, he could really explode in 2024.
Wicks is a beast waiting to happen as well, but it's the same issue (although to a much lesser extent) that Melton faces- Doubs, Reed, and Watson are likely going to get the lion's share of the snaps in 2024 barring injuries.
These are frustrating situations for young WRs in a deep corps, but great problems for the Packers to have.
LLCHESTY
March 24, 2024 at 12:13 am
Wicks definitely looks like he's getting down on the off-season workouts. Hope he doesn't get too swole.
https://twitter.com/JacobMorley/status/1771726157253144934?t=gz-772y73Ip...
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:27 pm
Oppy, Wicks is a beast! Rarely do you see a WR dragging multiple defenders down the field like he did.
MLF should continue being like a kid on Christmas morning, designing plays ...
cdoemel
March 24, 2024 at 12:00 am
The question was which WR will take the next big step. I agree I’d love to see both the tights go crazy. And it is incredible the depth we have. Heath, Dubose and Melton haven’t even had that many opps and impressed (it does sadden me we’re not inculding Toure in this list but, I’m assuming he’s had his opportunities). One thing I find impressive and heartening is the blocking from the room. They seem willing and even happy to help create gaps. Fingers crossed they got what ails Watson fixed. If Wicks and Reed take 2nd year jumps? Hahahaha. Sick!! But the guy I want to see take the next big step is Romeo. The dude has been nothing but dependable, can run routes, improvise and snatch the ball out of the air under heavy pressure. What’s not to like? If he gets more targets, we could have like four guys who could be potential WR1 somewhere in this league. That’s cray cray. And incredibly exciting.
Coldworld
March 24, 2024 at 11:13 am
Toure ended up on IR, and I don’t think he’s yet passed his physical, so his disappearance may not be for the reasons widely assumed. He’s a very nice reserve on game day because he can play multiple positions. He’s probably best in the slot, but there he’s got a ton of competition. He’s perhaps the best back up to the Doubs role too, although Wicks might do well there. A good problem to have. Toure could yet surprise us in camp in terms of roke as well as his play.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:33 pm
I'm not counting Toure out! He got branded by AR12 as a slacker so what did he do? He showed up to OTAs having obviously put the work in.
I see him as having "made the most out of his opportunities" moreso than #9 did, but never given the chance to "get hot" in a game. Hopefully he establishes himself in his third season, which is part of the reason I hope Gutey does NOT pick a WR this year. Next year's draft, the room should have shaken out and Gutey will know what he needs there, and the team will need to have young talent developing.
WD
March 24, 2024 at 06:31 am
When healthy Samori Toure played very well. He deserves a chance to compete. My first thought would be Watson assuming his hamstrings have been corrected. Also love Bo Melton who surprised last year.
Oppy
March 24, 2024 at 01:24 pm
Toure played in 11 games both in 2022 and 2023. He's been targeted a total of 28 times across those 11 games (1 TD, 6 first downs) putting up catch percentages of 44.4% in 2022, and 50% in 2023, for a career catch percentage of 46.4%, and a career catch "Receiving Success Rate Percentage" of 28.6%. Receive Success is consider a a reception that accumulates 40% or more yards needed for a first down on 1st down, 60% or more on second down, or 100% or more on 3rd and 4th downs.
To give you some perspective, Bo Melton, who has played in 5 games total, has 24 targets (1 TD, 13 first downs), with a catch percentage of 66.7%, and a receiving success rate of 62.5%.
Toure looked like he had much promise in his rookie training camp, but has not looked good since.
He is young (like all of them) and perhaps he can turn it around, but I am not hopeful. He is clearly far on the outside looking in in terms of his favor in the WR room. All but DuBose seem to be ahead of Toure at this time.
Bitternotsour
March 24, 2024 at 01:39 pm
analysis v. memory. somebody ought to stop this fight, these people have families.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:35 pm
DuBose is ahead of Toure. He should be the substitute for Wicks when he's out due to injury.
Coldworld
March 24, 2024 at 06:38 pm
Dubose is currently a substitute for Heath, whom he most closely resembles in physical attributes and acquisition. We will see if he can change his place on the pecking order this summer, but at this point Heath is clearly above him.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 24, 2024 at 06:47 am
The GBP's are blessed with talent in the WR and TE rooms.
While sitting in the rain at the 2022 Friday Night scrimmage I repeatedly reported back Doubs was special and the real deal. He still is improving and better than many give him credit for. Wicks will eat into his playing time.
Prior to the 2023 draft I strongly believed Wicks was a first round or early 2nd round draft selection. When the Packers drafted him in the 5th round I was ecstatic. Surprisingly I ended up defending his selection repeatedly here at CCTV because many 😅 mistakenly believed he had bad hands. This guy is the real deal and will become a 🌟 star!
Just going to say I love Reed and what he brings to the table. I see Reed as a great compliment piece to the offense.
Watson...WOW! Amazing talent and if he can stay healthy and work on his route running he is as good as anyone in the league.
Kraft....love this dude and his style! This young man is going to be a fan favorite including mine.
Musgrave has so much talent with so little experience it is crazy. We haven't begun to see his talent yet. Once we see him grow into his body and gain valuable experience there is super star talent there. I believe Musgrave has the ability to be the most improved amongst this receiving group. He is young and I see continued growth from him over the next 3 to 4 years. Crazy talent and potential.
Lastly, because of this team having so much depth with talent at these positions it is going to be very difficult for anyone to clearly differentiate themselves statistically in the league.
MitchAnthony
March 24, 2024 at 10:17 am
Would really like to see that next big step forward be taken by Watson, as long as that step isn't being assisted by crutches half the time. Really hoping that the nagging issue of the hammies gets taken care of. Wishing for the best for him and the team here.
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What a difference a few years make. From when so much focus was devoted to Adams (by the QB and the opposing defenses) and the cupboard was getting bare for other receiving talent to now have this developing luxury of riches. To now have this ability to really spread it around and keep defenses off balance. Seems like a good problem to have, doesn't it?
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 10:27 am
I guess one would assume every Green Bay pass catcher, if for no other reason that they are all extremely young, will make some improvement and growth this year. That by itself will make the offense and team better. If a couple of them make a bigger jump, that just moves us closer to our goal of Super Bowl. Good coaching and hard work will do that for sure.
The TE group improved the team the most last year because we didn't have a TE room in 2022. So if they make a jump, which I think they will, that's a double whammy great thing for the Packers. Just getting Watson healthy and keeping the WR room heathier will make Love better too. He made some great throws at the end of last year to wide open WRs that looked like they snuck on the field from the sideline. That's the product of such a deep and equally targeted group. Who do you double cover?
The 2024 draft needs to accomplish:
Draft a top OL with the first pick
Get us a starting, upgrade LB in the first 3 picks to make that group a strength
Add an early Safety that can start and upgrade immediately
Add a top RB that can take over RB1 if needed in 2 years in case Jacobs is gone
Strengthen the OL, Safety groups in general
CB is a sneaky need especially if Stokes doesn't play and play well in 2024
If GB had secured a really good FA LB, and signed a second FA Safety such as Fuller, Curl, and Chinn, who signed really low dollar contracts, even without the draft I think we would be talking about a possible top 5 NFC team this year. Those 3 Safeties were easily within GBs reach financially and along with Mckinney would have turned the S group into an absolute strength. If we hit on the draft and avoid bad injuries the Packers on paper can beat anyone this year. The OL depth, absence of a good starting LB, and the other Safety hole are the only question marks for this year.
LLCHESTY
March 24, 2024 at 02:56 pm
Drafting a RB now to replace Jacobs in two years is a waste of draft capital with the life span of an average RB's career. They can draft a complimentary back that can spell Jacobs but you don't waste two years of a RBs 1st contract. I'd rather see them draft two RBs late than one early.
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 05:41 pm
What if Jacobs is gone after 1 year LL? The way the Packers wrote his contract makes it seem like they have at least thought about that. Do you really think if they draft an RB in the 3rd round that he isn't going to see a significant number of important carries.
Going with your train of thought, let's wait until the 7th round to pick an O-lineman or CB because it might be 2 years until they play. If GB drafts 2 RBs late, as you say, and they don't play, aren't we wasting those contracts too?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing. I can do that with my wife. For months the speculation the best area of the draft for GB to get a good RB was 3rd or 4th round. That hasn't changed.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:46 pm
Golf, that's an excellent comment!
I'm going to point out a question mark:
Josh Myers played hurt last season. How many games, and how hurt? His injury was very obvious in the final loss. How well will he play when he's 100%?
I both want to see that question answered AND competition drafted at the position. The worst to come of that would be depth. Same with RG. 3 picks should be able to do that, as long as all 3 are good.
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 01:19 pm
New Mock
25. Troy Fautanu-OT Washington
41.Edgerrin Cooper-LB Texas A&M
65.Kris Jenkins-DT Michigan
88. Dominick Puni-OG Kansas
91. Jaden Hicks-S Washington State
126. Bucky Irving-RB Oregon
142. Zak Zinter-OG Michigan
149. Isaac Guerendo-RB Louisville
169.Myles Cole-EDGE Texas Tech
202. DeCamerion Richardson-CB Mississippi State
219.Nathaniel Watson-LB Mississippi State
245.Tyler Owens-S Texas Tech
stockholder
March 24, 2024 at 05:35 pm
I would take sweat before Jenkins.
Zac Zinter is rd 3 regardless of injury.
And I just don't have any Love for a Bucky.
The rest I could live with, but still think safety
will get Ford resigned.
golfpacker1
March 24, 2024 at 05:42 pm
He was gone already. Jenkins is also a run stopper with some pass rush ability too.
jannesbjornson
March 24, 2024 at 08:18 pm
Simon says, simulator sucks:
#27 Morgan LT
#42 T Sweat DT
#59 P. Wilson LB
#68 C Carson CB
#90 B. Irving RB
#91 Coleman OG
#111 Hicks SS
#202 Trey Taylor S (USAF)
#219 Cam Richardson CB
#238 Gabe Murphy Edge
#245 Ch.Turner OC
#247 Jordan McGee LB
#255 Anthony Gould PR
They probably want Rudy Ford back unless he's injured.
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:48 pm
I like your priority of O line, but this still leaves the safety room weak.
cheesehead1
March 24, 2024 at 03:42 pm
Watson, if and it’s a big if. Can ever stay healthy?
Dzehren
March 24, 2024 at 05:43 pm
Reed
SicSemperTyrannis
March 24, 2024 at 05:53 pm
Reed was not targeted or designed to be WR1, but emerged as such by the numbers. By my eye test he was the clear #1 early in the season; he's open, almost always. If JL10 were instructed to always look for him first and throw to him when he's open regardless of what else is happening just to get the ball out fast, that would both give Reed huge numbers and it would win a lot of games.
golfpacker1
March 25, 2024 at 10:35 am
Does this seem like as easy of a fix as it seems you guys? Hear me out on signing another FA safety, thus getting a player GB 100% knows is going to solve/fix/upgrade our big Safety hole/question mark.
GB still has a big hole to fill @ Safety. We would assume they will draft one this year and with a pretty high pick. That's a really good idea and it's also planning for the future. What if instead the Packers sign one of the remaining FA Safeties, Like Kam Curl or Julian Blackmon or whoever? Yes, it will cost more, although other projected targets like Jordan Whitehead, Jordan Fuller, Jeremy Chinn have been fairly cheap signings compared to McKinney. The Big picture factor is it fills the hole with an already successful NFL player that is guaranteed to play well and upgrade the Packers Safety room to an absolute team strength.
The extra benefit is now we wouldn't have to spend a high pick on a Safety, likely a 2nd rounder, and we could use it instead on say a run stopping D-lineman. I haven't been on The TeVondre Sweat train at all, but that is a possibility opened. We could still address Safety in the 3rd, 4th or 5th rounds instead. If we could fill the Safety hole with the perfect fit player for $5 million per year for a couple years, WHY NOT?
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March 25, 2024 at 10:45 am
How many FAs are still with the team?
Smith is next.
If GB is for real.
Give the young guys a chance.
The packers need to take care of their own.