Let's be honest-Denver took it to the starters in practice last week as well.

This team didn’t look up for it at practice or in the game in Denver, with a handful of exceptions. How that could be is a mystery, but it was real and even LaFleur accepted that it was.

There is more wrong with our OL approach than individual players it seems. I do not think it’s just who is used, when and where, but how they are used. I think our blocking concepts need questioning. We may have kept one OC too many last offseason.

Newman and Telfort aren’t NFL players. Stenovich needs to let go. Telfort is starting to look like an echo of his refusal to see that Hanson wasn’t cutting it or that Newman wasn’t a better T than Tom, or Nijman. In the meantime Jones seems to be being cold shouldered as Nijman was. LaFleur may need to start helping his OC just as he had to his former DC.

As I posted on another thread Ididn't watch the game. However if the depth on the Packers OL is as bad as it's being portrayed in these articles and comments then the Packers may want to make an easy move that would strengthen the OL depth almost immediately.

That move would be to bring back the as yet unsigned Bakthiari. The Packers have an $18 million dead money hit against the salary cap if Bak doesn't play for the Packers. Maybe they should consider utilizing that money and bring Bak back. Walker could then be the swing tackle and at least the depth at the tackle position would be improved. Bak knows the offense and if he can stay on the field even for part of the season the OL would be improved and it would buy time for the OL #2s to improve. If Bak goes down again with an injury we know that Walker is ready to step back into the LT position full time if necessary.

I'm not saying that the Packers should do it but they should at least consider it and see if Bak is willing sign for less than his $18 million dead money hit on the salary cap. With 3 weeks to go before week one he could get in enough work for the season opener. Bak would be better that Dillard or Telfort. Probably won't happen but it's worth a shot. Thanks, Since '61

Well penned, Sir. QB2, kicker, LB & OL depth... not a lot of time left to sort out before 06/09 (as that date in September would be expressed in UK and by many CDNs.)

Wanna proper O-line depth? Start with cutting Newman and elevate Jones in the roster.

I felt like Jonathan Ford played a nice game also. For a huge man with a low relative athletic score he was the first guy off the ball on every snap that he was involved in and he got good upfield push. He also almost made a sack. That’s pretty encouraging since he is the only nose tackle backing up TJ Slaton.

Did anyone else feel like big Caleb Jones had a decent game?

Happy there is still some time left before anyone is eliminated from the playoff picture. Nothing wrong with needing to get better at this point and time. Not sure why we rested 31 players, but what ever the reason here is to seeing more success than failure between now and playoff games… A whole lot of ballgame left?

I take a slightly different approach to this game than everything I've read.

The Broncos played most of their starters for most of the game. Good! The Packers played almost exclusively 2nd and 3rd stringers. It's hard to evaluate talent of backups when they play against backups. We want to know how they'll fare against opponents when the real games start. We got a lot of answers.

Our O-line backups are won't hold in games that count.

It was a mistake to bring in Joseph, who's no better than Carlson. We still need a kicker, although that snap and hold weren't very good either.

We have exactly what we expected from Pratt and Clifford - 2 developmental backups whom are inconsistent and struggle with ball security. Clifford has struggled with INTs all camp long and made a terrible decision here. Pratt's fumble was also bad, and he puts too much on short throws. The best receivers in the NFL struggle with 10 yard bullets that are high.

Vanilla play calling like this won't win a lot of games, though starters should execute better and hopefully the vanilla stuff is only for preseason.

Our WRs on the bubble haven't stepped up enough to clearly fill that last couple spots. DuBose had a good game and followed it up with a stinker. Heath and Melton have struggled. Part of that is due to poor QB play, which is due to O-line allowing constant pressure.

Our backup defenders struggle to cover, tackle, and read screens. Part of that has to be coaching, when receivers run through zones and defenders don't pick them up - stand flat footed until the ball is thrown. Zone D has been a consistent problem for Packers, Hafley needs to improve that drastically.

Wilson and Sims belong on the final 53. We have talent at TE and RB. We have a solid punter.

Overall I think this game answered a lot of questions. It showed clear needs for improvement and a few players made good plays. Many of these answers aren't what we'd hoped for but better to find out in preseason. Go Pack go!

A lot of writers are stating that the preseason games are meaningless, that the team and the players don't care about what happens. It is true that a team's preseason won-loss record is not predictive of success during the season, but this stuff is vitally important to the players involved in games where 31 players sat it out.

Other than Rhyan and Monk, every guy who played offensive line against Denver was fighting for a raise that triples or quadruples their salary, which amounts to a $500,000 to a $650,000 raise, and a few are just trying to secure a PS spot that pays $225K. Ditto for the defensive line, other than Brooks and arguably Wooden. The same can be said for every other position group.

Make no mistake: every player out there against Denver was trying hard. What they did is the best they could do that night. That is a little sobering. I do think the playcalling definitely indicated that the coaches did not care even a little about the score. That is okay - the coaches just wanted to know if the players could execute this or that against opposing starters and later against other backups.

Is it my IPhone or are these popups insanely frustrating to clear and read the article? WTF

The offensive line continues to follow some weird unknowable strategy that elevates lesser players on the depth chart and minimizes certain other players that universally appear to be better at football. This suggests some old school bias by the leader (Stenovich. Butkus?) that ranks their guys for non football criteria. It's troubling though as pointed out by other posters, consistent. It appears that we'll have to endure early season struggles until these coaches are forced to do the necessary adjustments.

Hey, chill everyone. I think it was all my fault. I turned on the game just before the snap of Cliffords INT. I quickly turned if off fearing that I jinxed the play....but just learning now that it was more substantial than just one play. Apologies.