5 Takeaways From Packers 29-34 Eagles: Catastrophe Avoided on Love Injury

The Packers narrowly avoided a long-term layoff for quarterback Jordan Love.

The Packers dropped their season opener on Friday night in Brazil, falling 34-29 to the Eagles at Arena Corinthians with an uneven performance which ended with quarterback Jordan Love limping off the field.

Here are five key takeaways from the first Packers game of the 2024 campaign.

Catastrophe avoided on Love injury

Of course the only takeaway that really matters from Friday’s game is the news reported after the team landed back in Green Bay on Saturday; Jordan Love’s season is not over.

An awkward looking injury to the knee area during a desperate, futile late comeback attempt could have essentially ended the Packers’ season in any meaningful way, but instead an MCL sprain is only expected to keep Love out for three to four weeks.

That means Malik Willis, only acquired from the Titans in recent weeks, is in line to start multiple games for the now 0-1 Packers, including a trip to Tennessee to face his former team in two weeks.

Assuming Willis has to play the next three games, the Packers will realistically need to win at least one of those to avoid an 0-4 start, which could give Love too much to do when he returns. Green Bay would need to go at least 9-3 the rest of the way in that scenario.

Willis is still raw despite his age and tenure in the league, but he has an exciting skillset, including the ability to make plays with his legs.

We saw Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell form a competent offense around Josh Dobbs for a few weeks last season, can Matt LaFleur do the same with Willis and keep the team’s playoff hopes afloat while Love recovers?

Sloppy start

Turning the page to discuss the game itself, it was a disappointing, sloppy showing from the Packers in the season opener, which was not helped by a less than ideal playing surface in São Paulo causing players to lose their footing at inopportune times.

The tone was set when the offense failed to cash in two early turnovers with seven points a piece, instead settling for field goals, and Green Bay failed to play complementary football all game.

Whenever the offense was in a groove and putting up points, the defense immediately gave up points, and whenever the defense forced a stop, the offense stalled.

This performance shows that there is no perfect answer to the debate of how to handle the preseason. Of course, losing in week one is not the end of the world, but in a roundabout way, Love’s injury was a consequence of deciding to mostly sit starters in the preseason.

Coaches understandably do not want to risk their star players getting injured in a meaningless game, but the lack of real game action the Packers starters were exposed to in the preseason contributed to an undercooked performance and mistakes being made in key moments.

This ultimately led to the Packers trailing in a game they should have had sealed up, and put Love in a position where he was scrambling around in a last gasp attempt to create a miracle play, leading to his injury.

The Jayden Reed show

The brightest spot in a wildly frustrating game was undoubtedly Jayden Reed.

After an impressive rookie season where he led the team in receiving yards, broke the franchise record for receptions by a rookie, and notched eight touchdowns, Reed picked up where he left off on Friday night.

The man they call “bird” put up 171 yards of offense on five total touches, including two massive explosive touchdowns, a 70-yard catch and a 33-yard run.

Green Bay has a strong track record of finding receivers in the second round of the NFL Draft, and at this point there is little doubt they have done it again. Reed could be lethal from the slot position if he keeps going at this pace.

Does Friday’s strong effort mean Reed is ‘wide receiver one’ in the Packers offense? Probably not, and who cares? A different receiver will probably lead the team in yards from one week to the next, and that is a good thing.

Defense still a work in progress

There were good moments and plenty of positives to draw from Jeff Hafley’s first game as an NFL defensive coordinator, but also some lumps taken and lessons to be learned.

The early takeaways should have put the position in a strong position to win the game, and if the offense had scored touchdowns off those plays, it would have fundamentally changed how the game played out and how Green Bay’s defense could have attacked it.

Hafley’s unit also did a tremendous job of preventing Jalen Hurts from making magic with his legs for the vast majority of the game.

But the explosive passing plays Hafley’s defensive style and scheme are susceptible to were certainly there, as A.J. Brown in particular feasted at times.

Tackling was poor, but it is fair to throw a lot of the criticism out the window on that front, as the super slick field contributed to many of the instances of missed tackles.

The defense will need to be better going forward, but do not dismiss the fact this was their first game in the new system, in an unusual situation, on a slip-n-slide field against a strong opponent.

Unfortunately for Hafley, there will now be less patience from the fanbase in the next few weeks, as the defense will need to step up quickly to carry the load while the offense deals with the absence of Love.

Emanuel Wilson is a real NFL running back

For a good chunk of the game, it looked a lot like last season on the ground for the Packers. It appeared LaFleur had dialed up all the blocking schemes he rolled out for A.J. Dillon in 2023, leading him to run straight into a brick wall, for Josh Jacobs.

Meanwhile, when Emanuel Wilson stepped into the game, he seemed to find creases with ease and blast ahead for big gains, much like Aaron Jones did after returning from injury last season.

Back then, the argument was made that the blocking was essentially the same, but Jones was simply so much better and more able to make chicken salad out of chicken you-know-what, and that was the difference.

Now, it is far too early and over reactionary to make the same statement about Wilson and Jacobs, especially as Jacobs really warmed up as the game went along, ending the game with 5.3 yards per attempt, but what we can say is that Wilson is a real NFL back.

He is a very natural runner, sees the hole and hits it, and maximizes runs by fighting for extra yards at the end.

Wilson had a whopping 11.5 yards per carry on his four runs, and not only should be a capable number two back while rookie third-round pick MarShawn Lloyd is out, but may well stay ahead of him on the depth chart all season long.

 

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @MarkOldacres

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Boneman's picture

September 08, 2024 at 06:55 am

Excellent analysis! An ugly game overall but a game with a few sparkles. The run game in particular looks legit and may be a big, big part of the Packers offense going forward, especially the next few weeks. The biggest concern I had about the defense was their lack of pass rush without blitzing. The contrast was very sharp while watching Jalen Hurts have all the time in the world versus Jordan Love having pressure from virtually everywhere along the line. Maybe against lesser O-lines things will improve but if not look for more exotic and consistent rush strategies from Halfley. The 'dagger' was the excruciatingly familiar final drive from the Eagles. Just can't happen like that anymore. Halfley must 'do something' in this situation. Instead he played it exactly like the man he replaced, safely. The result was the same, can't get off the field and lose the game without your best player having a chance to respond. Change personnel, blitz, distract...something.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 12:08 pm

That final drive had a lot of help from the officials. Thats not really a defense generally, but it did allow that drive when it should have fizzled.

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Rory P Scrotem's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:11 am

Great article Mark albeit too short. Needed more ground to be covered.

In future years, due to Matt LaFleur's stance on not playing starters in pre-season games, look for the Packers to lose "many" 1st and possibly even 2nd games.

The most successful football coach in my time on the planet (aside from Vince) has been Bill Belicheck. So given his past track record for playing starters in preseason games...I just can't figure out why the light hasn't gone off in Green Bay?

Greater chance to get hurt? I guess but, that chance exists in every practice. Just ask David Bakhtiari.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 08, 2024 at 04:16 pm

LaFleur has to take responsibility, but he obviously doesn't care or there WOULD be more consideration of at least playing those younger players and veterans with less game experience, longer. I would think with a new defensive system, you would want to your defensive players to have more experience with the system too. Last, not being in condition for game-play can lead to injuries too, but I am not saying this is what happened to Jordan - which is so unfortunate. I have no issues with playing certain starters a full half in pre-season games which would also condition their bodies and minds better, as well as providing more analysis for player evaluations. Musgrave, R. Walker, Rhyan, Q. Walker, McDuffie, and even Love & Jacobs, demonstrated rust. You could add Slaton, Alexander, Myers, and Watson IMO.

It's not the end of the world, but so frustrating. About Q Walker and McDuffie. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for this game as they were obviously in "read and react mode" to contain Hurts, but how comfortable do you feel now?

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fireball's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:30 am

Wow. " catastrophe avoided, " maybe.

Reminds me, of course, of the Bakhtiari debacle: monstrous contract signing in 2020 ( never should have offered him that much money in the first place ) and then down he goes a couple of weeks later, essentially gone for good as far as playing time for the Packers.

" More tests being done. " Uh huh. Okay. So we don't know, for sure. Maybe Love is out only a couple of weeks. Or three to four. Or. . .

So maybe signing Malik Willis was a good idea after all, huh?

Just one game into the season, and it's already a pretty interesting season.

And Hafley still has lots to prove. Joe Barry must be walking around saying to himself, so far at least, " I told you so. "

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bjkdad44's picture

September 09, 2024 at 01:26 pm

Why the four down thumbs?… you guys need to supply your reasons…

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stockholder's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:47 am

My 5 key takeaways-
The packers over-paid Jordan Love.
Most here bitched about paying Rodgers.
Well the New Bitch will be paying Love.
The only way to push him now.
Is find his replacement.
Because the Accuracy just isn't there.

Sloppy start was more about Roster turn-over.
And I’m looking right at Gute’s draft replacement.
The OL never gave Love time.
Unless they improve. Any QB will go down hurt.
And I say Jones was missed!

Reeds Best game.- Best hands on the Team??? #1 fits.

This defense isn’t a work in progress-
It’s just poor tackling.

Give Wilson the ball more.

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HarryHodag's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:45 am

Love isn't a jerk. Rodgers is. Your hero was out all last year after four plays. Why didn't you say it was a bad investment for the Jets?
Injuries happen and that doesn't make a bad player.

I don't know what game you were watching but Love's throws were fine. I didn't see you complaining when he led the team deep into the playoffs.
What were the Packers supposed to do? Let him walk and start Sean Clifford? Maybe the Eagles have a good team?

Find his replacement....ya, top NFL quarterbacks grow on trees. To repeat Frasier Crane: "What is the color of the sky in your world?"

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edp1959's picture

September 09, 2024 at 06:42 am

You are blind as a bat if you truly believe Love's passing was fine. He was awful. Two gifts in the red zone and all he got out of it was 6 points. Love is done, stick a fork in him. Gute has set this organization back years with his idiotic drafting. Starting with drafting Love instead of Jefferson, this alone cost the Packers at least two Super Bowls. Time to find a QB1 that can consistently throw with accuracy and not rely on the receiver being wide open or not throw up lame ducks into multiple coverage and hope the receiver can come up with it.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 08, 2024 at 09:57 am

I do not understand why this guy didn't get a journeyman QB to back Love from day one? Willis was beat out by Rudolph. Why waste Morgan's footwork on the inside? I still move up for Q. Mitchell. He plays man and doesn't back down. Not soft. We knew Stokes had hit the wall after year one. They need a reset at LB. Put Cooper and Hopper in the lineup. Give Walker one more chance to figure it out at WLB. He's not an inside guy. Gun shy.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 12:14 pm

Willis was always going to be beaten out by the high draft pick and the veteran that the new regime brought in. Willis was a project and that was not in their vision. Only health could have changed that. He was better in their camp than either Clifford or Pratt were in ours, and in Limited preseason action.

Then again, Stokes, whom you write off allowed only 2 completions and neither large. I do agree that the game showed up McDuffie cruelly. I’m really not as down on Walker’s performance, though it had good and bad. McDuffie was just out of his depth.

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Packerpasty's picture

September 08, 2024 at 09:59 am

well I would probably agree that he is way overpaid, hope he proves us wrong...he had 8 good games, so I guess that warrants a huge payday in the NFL...he sure was off on many passes first game...its still a game that could have been won against a really good team, with perhaps the best O line in football...much better than the Packers O line...

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Oppy's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:34 am

Name the QBs that have had as good or better string of QB play than Jordan Love did from week 10 of 2023 and through the play offs.

You’re going to need to supply the dates too, so we can compare.

Spoiler alert: the list is exceedingly small.

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:01 am

@ SH-to be fair, Love had 1-3 gigantic dudes in his face most of the night and could not plant his back foot on that greasy field.
The OL and the field were atrocious.

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Oppy's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:42 am

Get used to Jordan love- Packers franchise QB. He’s not going anywhere, and you’re going to eventually have to admit how incredibly wrong you have been about him.. you know, just like you did with Aaron Rodgers all those years ago.

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stockholder's picture

September 08, 2024 at 11:15 am

He's not the answer-
Fire Gute.
Gute cave's in on packer FAs.
Very unlucky GM.
Best franchise in the NFL.
With every game sold out.
Translation-
As Long as the packers sell tickets.
Thats all they care about.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 08, 2024 at 02:30 pm

You just haven’t seen an installment of the Aaron Rodgers: Aging Ungracefully tour in over year. Some bargain that dude was.

And have you seen Dack’s new contract? Sheesh, the price of quarterbacks these days.

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stockholder's picture

September 08, 2024 at 04:27 pm

Price - Exactly why I wouldn't pay them.
Gibbs had it right-
You can win with a cast -off.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 05:07 pm

So you are on the Malik Willis hype train?

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 08, 2024 at 06:42 pm

i am all in on willis. i hope they don't knee jerk sign a discard, it would be very un-packer like.

if willis can't cut it, you take your medicine and get ready for next year. If Ryan Tannehill was worth a roster spot he'd already have a job.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:52 am

Game was lost in the trenches...that same old cliche that endures because it is the essence of football.

The eagles DL is impressive. Ours OL is not. The interior continues to be leaky on pass plays...wheel spinners in the run game.

The Philly OL is still solid, but all game long the Packers rush was within a second of a pressure or sack. They did a good job collapsing the pocket but not enough to stop many throws by Hurts under duress...often to whoever Alexander was covering. He needs to start walking the walk.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:01 am

PFF is particularly scathing of McDuffie and of Clark, Brooks, Enagbare and Slaton on D. I can’t say I disagree based on live impressions. The good news was that Stokes gave up little, McKinney was as billed and Cooper looked really good in his cameo.

On O, PFF was damning of Watson and Wicks and of Myers and Musgrave. One thing they do highlight is how minimally we used out TEs as weapons (for which they heavily dinged Kraft despite good blocking). Then again we took Wilson out when he’d just sparked our offense. Not a great night for LaFleur.

Wicks hopefully bounces back but showcased the stone hands of his last college year, but someone needs to ask Watson if he really wants to play or just coast through into mediocrity, wasting his talents and tell him that right now he’s playing like he thinks it will just happen for him. Well it’s not and he’s not as good as he thinks he is. It’s wake up call time. If Wicks hadn’t been so disappointing I’d be recommending more Melton and Wicks taking Watson’s snaps and sitting Mr. Precious.

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iamiz's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:52 am

Mark, that was a very good article. Thank you. Those were the most salient takeaways from the game.

Here are some lesser observations:

- MLF can be too clever by half sometimes, like talking points off the board on the extra point when the Eagles were off-sides.

- with all the pass-catching talent we acquired the last 2 years, is the cream rising to the top? It seems Kraft is surpassing Musgrave - he is just a natural. I might be in the minority, but I am not sold on Watson as a go-to option, except in the red zone and on go-routes. He doesn’t look like a natural. I’ll show my age here, but it’s kinda like watching Madonna dance - she always looked uncomfortable, mechanical, and like she was counting her steps, lol.

- ditto the Madonna analogy when watching LVN. It’s obviously too early to tell, but each game that goes by, he’s looks more and more over-drafted. I HOPE I’M PROVEN WRONG.

- really hoped to see Evan Williams play some defensive snaps. Now HE looks like a natural, a disrupter. I was very surprised he didn’t get any snaps on defense.

- and give me some more Edgerin Cooper!

Blessings everyone.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:08 am

Broderick Jones over Van Ness was logical. Now, Van Ness has to show he has more than a one move pass rush.

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ReaganRulz's picture

September 08, 2024 at 07:55 am

We’ll have to hold our breath the next few weeks for sure with Love out. But I do recall historically that the Packer’s frequently are sluggish in Game 1. And one game in recent years that we got crushed!!

Lots of factors in this game like playing a good Eagles Team, playing a new defensive scheme and playing against a new defensive scheme, and playing in a less than stellar environment. This game was not a blow out by any means which should give us hope for improvement but all contingent upon playing a stable QB.

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mrtundra's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:00 am

Knock it off, with the "wide receiver one" crap. We are deep at WR and no one is going to be the "number one" guy every week. Reed had a very good game on Friday. Lots of other, usually dependable guys, dropped passes that hit them in the hands. Maybe next game, one of those guys will be "the guy."

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roadrunner23-wc's picture

September 08, 2024 at 02:47 pm

On the dropped pass issue, by my count there were 5 with 2 attributable to Dontayvion Wicks.

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KenEllis's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:15 am

New Defensive Coordinator.
New highly drafted defensive players.
New high-priced defensive free agent.
Same old, same old soft, poor-tackling, physically-dominated, crappy Packer defense.

Joe B got canned after 2023, but his defense never gave up more than 34 points in any one game last season.

Halfley better watch his back, because we know Gute (who drafted all those studs we saw on D like Jaire, Stokes, Wyatt, LVN, and Quay Walker) and MLF sure ain't taking responsibility for Green Bay's annual defensive dumpster fires.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:08 am

On the other hand this D already has 42% of the turnovers Barry’s D managed all last season. It is not its fault we made so little of them.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:11 am

Players, not plays.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:21 am

Catastrophe avoided. Glad it isn’t season ending and all, but I would have just rubbed some dirt on it, heaved the Hail Mary, and brought home the W.

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HarryHodag's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:53 am

Sorry, but the glass half full theme of the article belies the reality. The Packers are very likely to go 0-5(or more) until Love returns and the offense returns. Willis and Clifford simply aren't going to move the offense. Willis was inches away from being cut by the Titans before the trade and Clifford was battling a rookie to hold onto a spot on the team.
The offensive line was exposed as less than good. The Eagles defensive line simply ate them alive. Then you flip to the defense which looked a heck of a lot like Joe Barry returned. The Eagles offensive line opened gaping holes and Hurts barely got his jersey dirty. With a couple of exceptions Stokes and Alexander looked not only over-classed but just plain dumb.
There were some positive points on both sides of the ball, but not enough to show me this team, outside of Love, is capable at this point of doing much of anything except trying hard and losing.

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Coldworld's picture

September 08, 2024 at 09:37 am

I’m going to talk PFF for a moment. With all its failings, I think their highest rated offensive player list is thought provoking.

1. RT Zach Tom: 92.0
2. WR Jayden Reed: 89.2
3. LG Elgton Jenkins: 78.4
4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 69.4
5. RG Jordan Morgan: 67.7

Tom doesn’t surprise, nor Reed or Wilson (criminally underused by LaFleur). We knew that Walker had a bad game, but in a night when we could not consistently run block or hold up in the pocket we see that PFF at least saw both Jenkins and Morgan standing out.

Jenkins was solid in the run game in their assessment and allowed zero pressures. Morgan allowed a single quarterback hit over 19 pass-blocking snaps and was solid in the run game.

If PFF is right, then Morgan needs to play more. Thats a real positive. He’s got a lot of dismissive comments, but for a rookie having to tag team that’s a very positive sign on a tough day against a good front.

However, when you look through, Walker’s bad day, particularly in the first half is not the worst. Once again, our problems started at C in both the run and pass game. This has been a perennial reality since Myers arrived. Yet he’s rarely been allowed to be challenged. Yet again the weak link is right up the middle (and culpable on the play that got Love hurt). Myers is their third worst graded offensive player and by far the worst OL player.

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iamiz's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:19 am

I for one was gobsmacked to see 3 offensive linemen in the PFF top 5. I thought the O-Line was one culprit for this loss.

PFF is best seen as one of many points of information instead of the final word.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:20 am

Affirmative. When Morgan was in the lineup Jacobs could get to outside zone. Watching Rhyan almost made me lose my lunch. I would still play Morgan as the LT where he was drafted and put the muscle guy, R.Walker inside.
As noted, Myers is the weakest link.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:20 pm

Cold world, could you expand on this?

“…..our problems started ar C…”

We scored 29 points on the road, had over 150 yards on the ground, over 400 total yards on a night when our QB wasn’t really sharp.

What problems are you referring to?

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 09:45 am

I don't think Green Bay has the horses (personnel) in a few position groups, sadly.

-Linebacker room-
-Offensive Line is porous and I have not trusted their coach, Butkus, for his entire tenure
-Cornerback room. Jaire wants to intercept but he whiffs on 60% of tackles and has character issues, IMO-Stokes is fast but small and doesn't tackle either.
-The D-line is not comparable to high calibre teams.Gary and Smith were overpowered most of the game.

I am one Packer fan who does not feel Gute has done a good enough job on personnel choice other than the receivers & Kraft (not
Watson) and Love? Alexander, Stokes, LVN, Walker, Wyatt are not living up to their draft positions--- and more from the past-Savage, Amos, Deguara and Co.
Jacobs looked nothing like Barkley but then the O-line couldn't open up lanes either.

MLF admitted he and his coaches were responsible and some of their choices were 'trickling down' to the players??? Whatever that means.

Coaching staff seems to be unsupervised by MLF-he often looks shocked and surprised on the sidelines as if this is the first time he's seen the poor play.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 08, 2024 at 02:42 pm

In general i agree, but Walker was a seventh round pick , no? With a seventh rounder, you’re lucky to get a backup.

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:10 pm

Quay Walker was a first round pick.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:54 am

That "porous" offensive line helped put 440 yards of offense and 29 points on the board. How does that happen if the line isn't getting something done?

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NickPerry's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:01 am

I think the Packers REALLY have to look at the O-Line. Not just the holding calls and other metal mistakes, they don't have a couple of those "Road Grader" type O-Lineman. Those Packers teams of previous regimes had some real studs. Remember those days? If you needed ONE stinking yard to get in the endzone or make a first down, you had more than one O-Lineman to run behind.

I'm not blaming Gute, I think he's done a great job building this team up in no time with depth in multiple areas...Just not the O-Line. Meyers isn't good but we knew that. BUT, there's been too many times I've watched him get blown back and the ballcarrier has no chance. Overall it's a PASS blocking O-Line. All in all one of the better ones on a normal fucking field. But Friday night that was ugly. Uglier than I expected.

When you don't play the starters in the preseason, the starters play WILL SUFFER. I'm not ready to just bag on the defense and say it's not going to be better. The Eagles are LOADED and played a defense really playing for the first time in 9 months. It's going to happen. Same thing on offense. If you don't play for 9 months together, you look like THAT!

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Leatherhead's picture

September 08, 2024 at 08:23 pm

We scored 29 on the road and had 440 yards of offense, and averaged over 7.0 yards per carry. How bad could the line have been?

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:02 am

" Catastrophe Avoided "

How is it avoided when losing the only QB of any worth is going to miss, at minimum,3–4 weeks if being told the truth which is always suspect with the Packer Org in regard to these issues.

No, the catastrophe has just begun.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

September 08, 2024 at 12:10 pm

Agreed. Willis and Clifford are the dregs of backup QBs. We may be fighting to stay out of last place in the NFCN when all is said and done. When Love returns the offense will be in beginning of the season gel mode whereas everyone else is mid season form…

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 08, 2024 at 01:05 pm

I think it just refers to Love not being out for the whole year.

Can you imagine the reaction among fans if Love WAS expected to miss the whole season? Ouch!

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Packerpasty's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:04 am

Now we get to see MLF in crisis mode..does he have it in him?? And whoever starts at QB cant be as inaccurate as Love was in that game...missed way too many throws for a dude being paid what he is paid...still that was a winnable game with better coaching and QB play against a really good team...but many of the same old problems showed up...oh yah, these NFL greed games in other countries suck just like the commish...

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:16 am

Once again-no QB could have thrown accurate balls with 2-3 300 lb men in their face most of the game.

My suggestion:-

-Scour the planet for 2-3 capable O-line men and find a better O-line coach. Stenavich needs to focus on the O-Line.
-Demand that players tackle. (and that icludes Prima Donna, Alexander)

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splitpea1's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:20 am

Just say NO to an 0-4 start! Everyone has try to be at least little optimistic.

Of course there isn't much in Willis's resume to base this on, but it is possible that we can win two of the next three games. Two are at home against the Colts and Vikings, and Willis should be somewhat familiar with the Titans' defense. If he can at least avoid game-changing mistakes, get the ball into the hands of his play-makers often, and do a Lamar Jackson impersonation, then we have a chance.

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hobowilly's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:04 am

SP, love that you're an optimist as too many are overeacting. Why predict what the next 4 game record will be. Isn't MLF the guy that preaches game by game focus? The Brazilian experiment failed IMHO, players from both teams were slip slid'n away. Unfortunately the eagles look to be a tough team, which is another reason for us devoted fans to chill.
Having said this, I'm not optimistic that Willis will necessarily play decently enough in the home opener to lead GB to a W-honestly, i think on the surface of things Clifford would do better. This along with MLF calling better redzone plays/scheming better. Let's face it, GB's Oline still can't run block very well and Meyers continues to be a sub-par center. Eagles played fine without their line leader, Kelce.

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frankthefork's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:30 am

The game and play is what is to be expected when the starters don't play in game situations (pre-season). In time, things will look better and the players will jell as one could say. It was competitive but sloppy against the best from the NFC, sans the Niners.

Just an observation here- why is it that when a player signs a big contract, an injury occurs within a month or two of the big money signing? I've seen it with Favre, Rodgers, Jones, Jenkins, Bak, and now Love. It's not just the (packers) offense. It happened to White, Matthews, Clark, Alexander, Stokes, and more.

Do the players become too relaxed or is it complacency? Is it the coach not getting the players ready to start the season of hitting? I would like to see the %'s or a study of this for the Packers vs. NFL averages in general. I bet it's more common than we think, and could be as high as 20% of the time.

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Oppy's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:38 am

Why isn’t anyone talking about why Love was seemingly completely dehydrated for much of the game?

It is not normal to see a QB on the sidelines repeatedly having both calves massaged by trainers and eating bananas in between every offensive series.

Did he have the flu? Did he stay out late partying before the game? Other?

This is in my opinion a question that is just as important as “how long will he be out?” And it seems like NOBODY is talking about it.

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 11:44 am

@Oppy-
I was worried about partying as well but they left Wednesday @ 7am for a 10 hour flight and likely had to go through Customs, travel another 2 hours to their hotel so hopefully, there was no time for partying unless they went out Thursday night.
One can get very dehydrated on a lengthy flight if they don't focus on hydration.
He could have been sleep-deprived from some anxiety about the game.
The field was slippery and the OL was absent.
I'm certain he will address what his role was in this fiasco.

He has a strained MCL (inside knee ligament). It is not ruptured, will not require surgery, so with today's treatments-ice, hyperbaric treatments, therapy and his youth and fitness level, my guess is he will return within 4-5 weeks. He can wear a brace and play in a smaller area,
hand off the ball more often, avoid running out of the pocket but the greater issue is the OL.
Are they capable of protecting him? Looks like Z. Tom and Jenkins are up to it but there are questions about the others.

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hobowilly's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:25 am

excellent post my friend, we had the same thoughts. Coaching/managing young players are still paramount as it appeared yes, he was dehydrated. Who else on the team or Eagles appeared to have the same symptoms? Didn't see that. There are lots of physical & mental pressures on the leader of the band. MLF (as he usually does) sorta took the blame by stating they missed too many opportunities.
Personally, i believe he works his butt off, but somehow needs to learn how to mentor or take staff members to the wood shed when they need it. Maybe I'm wrong and the coaches (esp Oline coaches) are failing in the run blocking scheme or they need better road blockers. Stenovich proved to be an excellent Oline coach but in order to keep him, he was promoted to OC...i'd hope MLF is behind the scenes telling him he needs more production in short yardage situations. I cringe when a play places GB inside the 10 with that creepy feeling, well.....they'll settle for 3: AGAIN!
We are back to not being able to even make the LOS in critical 3rd or 4th downs. Can he scheme a 3 yard out pass quick hitter and be at least 75% successful on those? Keep using motion.....set it up like a pitcher does pitches! Sorry, i know i'm doing the monday morning QB, but this gets so frustrating when you sense GB has the horses!

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 08, 2024 at 01:09 pm

I am happily reporting fewer migraines now that I’ve shunned bananas.

But watching GB on Friday did cause some pain.

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stockholder's picture

September 08, 2024 at 02:21 pm

Have another- Jones is tearing it up for the vikings.

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Oppy's picture

September 08, 2024 at 03:40 pm

Are you a vikings fan now?

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:40 pm

Same production for Jacobs on Friday night. The deal is durability. Wilson said he knows the game, too.

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:44 am

I have seen elsewhere that the time missed for Love will be 3-6 weeks.

The upside is that 4 of the 6 weeks is at home which can help ease the damage. Half-full glass.

The downside is that we just lost home field advantage and the wins that could have been. Half-empty glass.

However one looks at it, half of whatever never bodes well, period.

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LeotisHarris's picture

September 08, 2024 at 06:06 pm

I have seen elsewhere that the glass doesn't exist, and no one can fathom what the time missed for Love will be. Have you truly thought about the time missed for Love?

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Strat's picture

September 08, 2024 at 10:52 am

Using the field and the refs as an excuse for this loss is weak. I saw the Eagles slip a lot more than the Packers in the first half. The refs made questionable calls both ways, but twelve men on the field costing the Packers a TD isn't questionable, it's obvious, sloppy and stupid. HUGE advantage, the Packers didn't just win the turnover battle, it was extremely lopsided in their favor. Love had two easy interceptions dropped, one for a sure pick six, and a fumble forward that almost gave the Packers a first down. That combined with the Eagles "give away program" should've been enough to get this supposed "Super Bowl contender" a win.

Colts and Vikings at home, Titans on the road. The upcoming schedule could be a lot worse. But Malik Willis, "Exciting skillset with the ability to make big plays with his legs." You just described Justin Fields and a lot of other "QB's" that couldn't play the NFL QB position. Well, he's going to get his shot now. Let him prove everyone, especially the Titans, wrong.

No more "The D can carry this team for a few games" until they do. We've been hearing that for years. Now would be a good time to finally have it happen. Alexander, after his interception in the endzone, looking like he had no idea what to do, was embarrassing to watch. Yeah, I get it, It's a new system, but the result is the same.

I still saw enough of the good QB play from Love to think he is going to be a very good QB. And I'm not hanging Narveson out to dry after one missed FG. I thought his kicks were really strong. If he misses consistently, they know what they have to do.

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Slim11's picture

September 08, 2024 at 11:44 am

Alexander’s indecision about running the interception out of the end zone is both perplexing and infuriating. As an experienced CB, he should know to take a knee. His indecisive moment also cost the team yardage.

Can the defense carry the team while Love’s knee heals? Only if the team controls time of possession (TOP). The Eagles won the TOP and the game. This got the Packers’ defense worn down. Another thing to consider…it took about half the season for players to adapt to Dom Capers’ 3-4 system in his first season in Green Bay. A similar time frame with this new defense won’t be a surprise.

RE: Narveson…while he did miss one kick, his mechanics look solid. Each kick looked to be the same. Carlson’s kicks, good or bad, always seemed to curve left or right. With the same LS and holder from last season, Carlson was clearly the problem.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 08, 2024 at 03:42 pm

Agree with this! But about the refs, kinda makes you wonder if Aaron encouraged them to make a side-trip to Peru for some magic mushrooms. The discerning/judgement calls made me think, "What were they seeing!" for calls against both sides.

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NFLfan's picture

September 08, 2024 at 11:50 am

The Defense needs to tackle. They should spend every waking moment till the next game insisting on tackling. A lot of tackling comes down to technique and the understanding of fundamentals.
I think players who refuse to tackle should be pulled from the game.

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 08, 2024 at 01:11 pm

Huge, huge factor. But does the CBA even allow tackling in practice?

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EnemyTerritory's picture

September 08, 2024 at 12:02 pm

A grade 1-2 MCL tear/sprain is a minimum 3-6 week injury. Given how cautious the medical staff in GB is, the odds favor a minimum of six weeks on the sideline. Colts, Titans, Vikings. Week 2-4. Maybe 1 win at best. Weeks 5-7 Rams, Cardinals, Texans. Maybe 1 win at best. 2-5 if the team is lucky. If they are 0-7 which is more likely than not I don’t see Love on the field until after the bye in week 10 at which point the season is over anyhow. How in the hell did the front office fail to find a respectable backup QB? Inexcusable for a team with superbowl ambitions. The up side is the draft in Green Bay will have the hosts picking in the top five.

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MitchAnthony's picture

September 08, 2024 at 05:18 pm

Plenty of individual efforts on defense to rag about. But that rusty untested with a new scheme defensive unit did create multiple turnovers and give the offense some really good field position which they did jack shit with. It was after those first six points were scored that I had a bad feeling about the game and did not feel confident about a win. When it really became apparent was the failed 2 point conversion. They were getting nothing on short yardage up the middle and they tried what? Yeah, nice adjustment there Matt.

When there was a discussion thread about draft wishes I posted - willing and able tacklers. This game was irritating to watch for craptacular tackling. I was asking if Kevin King was back on the team with the dreaded shoulder whiffs.

Some grace yet for Narveson. He came in very new to the team and the ones he made were right down the middle. I didn't find myself holding my breath as much. With the field position the offense had, he should have been chipping in XPs instead of kicking FGs.

For all the hype and high hopes people had for this season this game exposed a bit more work to be done. Hopefully some of that was just - not being ready. Injured QB or not, they still need to get it together and play much better and in the next few weeks the measuring stick might not be wins but, if they are coming together and playing better than they did in this game.

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greengold's picture

September 08, 2024 at 05:27 pm

1. Play your guys in preseason for a change. Be ready to start Game 1 with known quantities. The starting O will look more in synch, and the starting D will get more legit tackling work.

Iron sharpens iron.

2. You draft a LT in Round 1 with historically effective numbers his last 2 consecutive seasons and you play him at OG, Matt LaFleur? WTAF? Your teams often suffer from poor decisions in establishing a starting 5.

3. Why is Josh Myers still on this team?

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hobowilly's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:17 am

G2, I'm still reeling from that choice of Ohio St over Oklahoma. Humphries rated much better. Myers is from Ohio St, that's why he's still on the team! Gutey appears focused on Ga now and hopefully elsewhere..Morgan was likely a good choice and so was Rhyan but only as a backup. Is it time for Butkus to move on? I'm not trying to hate, but the runblocking still is amongst the worst in the whole league.

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buddrow53's picture

September 09, 2024 at 03:29 am

Not one word regarding Barkley? Did you really watch the game?

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