Betting on Matt LaFleur Makes Sense for Packers

Trusting LaFleur to eventually get over the hump makes more sense than starting over with an unknown quantity at head coach.

The Packers have committed to the existing braintrust of Brian Gutekunst, Russ Ball and Matt LaFleur, with all three penning long-term contract extensions to stay in Green Bay.

There was a lot of noise from outside the building on whether LaFleur would, or should continue as head coach of the Packers in 2026, but according to reports, there was never any serious consideration to moving on.

LaFleur has compiled a 76-40-1 regular season record, but has failed to take Green Bay to the Super Bowl.

While he is not perfect, and there are things that must improve for the Packers to hoist a Lombardi Trophy in the years to come, new president and CEO Ed Policy has done the sensible thing in not succumbing to pressure from a vocal minority in the fanbase, and sticking with LaFleur.

The postseason disappointments can of course to an extent be pinned on LaFleur, as can literally anything that goes awry with the team when you are the head coach.

But there is context to apply to many of the playoff losses which is being ignored for the convenience of throwing out ‘3-6!’ and declaring that postseason record the end of the discussion.

On the flipside, LaFleur has a tremendous amount of credit in the bank for various achievements which are now being forgotten by many, including:

  • Helping Aaron Rodgers return to MVP form after arriving in Green Bay
  • Overseeing a transition from a veteran-led team to the youngest in football, and taking that infant team to the playoffs for three straight seasons
  • Developing Jordan Love into one of the best quarterbacks in the league
  • Constructing an offense which has ranked in the top 10 in expected points added (EPA) in all but one of his seasons (they finished 14th in Rodgers’ final season as they just missed the playoffs)
  • Hiring Jeff Hafley, a defensive coordinator whom no one – the media or the wider NFL – had on their radar, which was a roaring success and has made Hafley one of the hottest head coaching candidates in the league.
  • Many of the things on that list feel like constitutional rights for Packers fans, to whom a certain level of success is a given, but LaFleur has reestablished and sustained Green Bay’s winning tradition after they went 11-16-1 in the two years before he arrived. That was not preordained.

Keeping the offensive mind who has helped Love ascend to the type of quarterback you can win a title with is enough reason alone to keep LaFleur. Is he the best head coach in the league? No. But he is a very good one, and the chances of improving on him are very slim

There were certainly arguments to be made for a ‘fresh start’ after the horrific way the 2025 season ended.

But in reality the Packers are more likely to get over the hump by betting on a coach who always gets them in the dance putting it all together in the next few years, rather than starting over and betting on an unknown coach not only matching what LaFleur has been able to do, but bettering it.

It is not complacency, or a sign of early round playoff exits being acceptable, it is trusting that a coach who has established himself as one of the best in the league will eventually make that final elusive step and bring a title back to Titletown.

 

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Seabassmtg's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:06 am

Don’t do the wave. It’s too loud.

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Savage57's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:08 pm

Here's the funny part, but in a sad way.

Chances are better than not the Packers will have a stronger team next season than this one. Should that happen, will all of you calling for Matt's head and castigating Policy for his decision remain true to your prescience and disavow any interest in the good fortunes of this team which has been wrought at the behest of such utter hacks?

Think about it for a minute, then check the depth of your convictions and how those align with your supposed fandom.

There's a whole lot of chatter on this site that sounds awful Vikingsish and Bearsish.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:30 pm

If LaFleur is more successful this next season, it'll be because he adapted and did what his critics have wanted all along, so they were right all along, and he was wrong all along.

Additionally, this guy who can't develop quality assistants on his staff is likely to lose both his offensive and defensive coordinators in the next month or so as they take HC offers.

Here's the Unvarnished Deal: Packers return quite a few good pieces in quite a few good places. We have an opportunity to add to the team over the next couple of months. We should absolutely be competitive again next year.

XXXXXYeah, the constant Packer bashing on a Packer fan board is kind of nonsensical to me, too.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:28 pm

Oh, I wanted to add Math: 76 wins in 7 seasons is how many wins/season?
40 losses in 7 seasons is how many losses?

An 11-6 record and a trip to the playoffs is the new mediocrity?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:41 pm

Stenavich is getting a HC gig? Is this a great country or what!?

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:55 pm

I wanted LaFleur replaced. He is not going to be. He will be the Packers HC next season.

If he gets the Team to the NFCCG and maybe a visit to the SB in year 8, I will be elated. Pleasantly surprised, but elated. I been a fan during far too many HC's to let LaFleur's extension bother me.

LaFleur will be the 4th longest tenured Packer HC behind Lambeau, McCarthy, Lombardi. Holmgren is the 5th. He is also the only one of the group that has never won a Conference or NFL/SB Championship.

Neither have the other 14 Packers HC's below the top 5 longest serving coaches.

I truly hope LaFleur will soon keep company with the other 4 longest serving coaches. He's been hanging out with the other 14 guys for too many years.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:37 pm

You obviously have no understanding of those of us that advocated for firing Gutekunst/Ball and LaFleur. We see a regime that's failed for seven years and is performing their jobs worse each year. This team will not be stronger (did you mean better?) and LaFleur will fail to make the playoffs. Our opinions are predicated on wanting the Packers to compete for Super Bowls. If Policy/Gutekunst/Ball and Lafleur get the team to the Super Bowl, I'll be vociferously cheering them, just like I always do for every game. Nowhere do I say I'll stop rooting for the team if they retain the current regime. You, saying that I should have no interest in the team is, I hate to say it, delusional. By what right do you think you can tell people what to have interest in? Funny that you should use the term good fortunes and not success, of the team. If LaFleur does get the Packers to the Super Bowl, it will be by luck and not good coaching.
A whole lot of chatter sounds like they care about the success of the Packers. Just because you choose to ignore the Packers having no real success (winning a Super Bowl), shows me that you're the one that doesn't really care. Maybe you're da Bear or Viking troll.

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Savage57's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:59 pm

OK, got it. You're a bandwagon fan.

That's all you had to say, "I'm a bandwagon fan" instead of the rambling screed you posted.

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Joster11's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:11 pm

Just because a fan vocalizes frustration with the team's end result doesn't mean they're a bandwagon fan. It means they have an opinion that they are sharing with other GB fans. True fans both cheer for the victories and lament the losses. Get a clue, troll.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:03 pm

Fan is not the same as a groupie. Fandom means support not blind, unthinking satisfaction with the direction of the franchise and a complete willingness to do a thing for it,

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Starrbrite's picture

January 19, 2026 at 09:02 pm

Let’s see how we play the bears next season after their coach, et al have called our coach and players everything but a football team?

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Since'75's picture

January 20, 2026 at 06:32 am

"Should that happen, will all of you calling for Matt's head and castigating Policy for his decision"

'Should that happen'......hypotheticals rule!!
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Should i match all 6 power ball numbers, i will buy this site, and half of you are (gulp) gone!! 😲😁🤪😎

Your friend,

Since '75

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 20, 2026 at 01:06 pm

Like the headline stated: Gambling is an addiction. Might as well bring Sherman back...

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sugarbair's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:19 am

Wow, I just have to shake my head at this argument for keeping the status quo. Good luck.

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KenEllis's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:52 am

Like clockwork, the "anything the Pack does is the right thing "articles are being spit out.

Wonder if New England (first year head coach), Seattle (second year head coach), and Denver (third year head coach) will spend time regretting moving on from their prior head coaches while getting prepared for Conference Championship games this weekend.

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Green Bay Shareholder's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:44 am

Love it, been saying this for years about Green Bay - basically have to commit homicide to be shown the door. The meaning of Insanity, but at least we have the annual Injury and Youngest Team excuses to fall back on !

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crayzpackfan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:09 pm

They're just falling in line while trading in their integrity for access. It is what it is, predictable. That's why phones have gestures and computers have mice, to scroll right past the fluff and leg humping and going straight to the comments.

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irishgary's picture

January 22, 2026 at 07:47 am

Vrabel is not a first year HC, Payton is not a third year HC

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Lry's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:31 pm

. Same old same old. How can a team president be content with that??

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:29 pm

When his instinct at all costs is to avoid taking any step he can avoid. Hoping that the issue will go away with time and leave him smelling of roses. If not, then at least he can avoid taking any affirmative action for quite a while.

Meanwhile he can enjoy no rival power in the building, his social status and tens of millions in income by simply saying it was the natural decision. One only has to read places like this (and authors) to see many will swallow that for a very long time, despite the evidence.

Of course, the end could be ugly and do huge damage, but for now, everyone’s a friend inside Lambeau and he’s still in demand in the cocktail circuit here and underneath the palms in winter. A nice con if you can pull it off. Plenty big enough to retire on.

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Handsback's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:20 am

For the past 3 years sports writer have been pushing to have Buffalo dumping McDermott. Basically saying they have a good enough offense, but their defense can't make that stop to win the big games. He also used offensive coordinator as scapegoat.
Well here we are in Green Bay with an offensive coordinator acting as a head coach. Give ML credit in that he doesn't blame coordinators or players for playoff losses, but it's usually the offense that losses the big playoff games.
I say this, it's a huge gamble by Policy to extend ML if ML doesn't believes a major change is needed in game preparations.
JMHO

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:06 pm

I keep asking...If LaFraud is such an offensive genius, why are his offenses always tanking in the second half of games? So sick and tired of the same old garbage that comes out of this organization.
Me: "So Matt, why do your offenses suck so bad in the second half?"
LaFraud: "That's a good question. We'll have to take a look at that."

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heyjoe4's picture

January 22, 2026 at 07:48 am

Well said. At first I thought Policy should be bold and do something new at HC. It was easy to feel that way after the 2H collapse to the Bears, twice.

But the team is talented, and a lot of guys will be back in the fall. Gluten has to add two starting CBs and a DT, probably through FA. He'll have his work cut out for him.

He's sure to make some improvements at CB and DT. Again, it's a talented, SB-ready roster. Bringing in a new HC, with a new system would slow things down, at least for a while.

I do hope that something is done to address MLF's weaknesses - time management, in-game adjustments on offense, some creativity in play calling - these things can be addressed on the margins, but they have to be addressed. Just my opinion, but just running the old coaching staff back won't help. And at a minimum, a new DC is needed. And a new STs coach.

It will be anything but business as usual at 1265. SB-worthy teams have a short window to get it done. As the late Kevin Greene said, "It's time!" RIP KG, RIP.

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Zapato's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:24 am

How about not fielding a defense that was good enough to compliment Aaron Rodgers' MVP seasons? How about never fielding a competitive special teams unit during his tenure? How about hiring and holding onto loser Joe Barry? How about holding onto Adam Stenavich and other coaches who are on nobody's radar?

You beat writers think this is all about losing the playoff game? How about all the meltdowns his team had this past season? The Browns, Cowboys, Broncos and the Bears twice? How about all those three and outs when he should've been putting a dagger into the opponents chances of staying in the game? What do you make of all those times LaFleur walked back to the bench trying to figure out what the opponents defense was doing to him while his defense was getting walked over in the second half?

There are problems with this coach that people are ignoring. And where in the hell do you get the idea that it's only a minority of fans frustrated with this coach?

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dobber's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:29 am

"There are problems with this coach that people are ignoring. "

I think his warts are clearly visible and broadly discussed.

"And where in the hell do you get the idea that it's only a minority of fans frustrated with this coach?"

Several polls indicate the fan base broadly isn't as unhappy as the posters are here.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:39 am

What polls?? People have been mentioning polls, what polls??

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Packers0808's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:14 pm

I am in the polls more than once saying to keep him.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:08 pm

I think it's just a typo on dobber's part. He's referring to most of the residents of Pulaski and Franklin being pro-LaFleur.

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dobber's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:34 pm

One in particular was in a piece on JSOnline, but I'm not finding the piece right now. I'll see if I can dig it up.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:32 am

How a question is phrased and to whom it is asked can lead to virtually any outcome. None of the surveys I’ve seen deserve credibility methodologically and I don’t give them any credence as a result. I know from my interactions, that at least those involved differ sharply. An equally flawed sample, of course, but enough to laugh at the 80% one in particular. Similarly, various Packers boards make that look farcical. Sometimes things don’t pass the smell test even without deep validation. This is one.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:12 pm

Nope. Surveys are not scientific polls with an ample sample size randomly chosen across the subject (IE Packer fans), margins of error, data collection time limit, and unbiased questioning.

Most commenters here and at APC are focused on the Pack and knowledgeable about football.

Most are disappointed in LaFleur and his trend...and confused or let down by Policy cementing in the status quo policies including management by committee.

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barutanseijin's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:33 am

It’s also a common conceit among the online that they know better than people who aren’t. There’s really no basis for that assumption, and Uncle Offline may have more knowledge and nuance than some people who fill up internet comment sections with their dumps.

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Packers0808's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:13 pm

Actually I saw a poll on Bleacher Report that said 80% of people on one of their polls preferred to keep LaFluer.

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Coldworld's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:20 am

Laughable of you think about it. It’s really rare for 4/5 of the population to agree on the most obvious things, but you buy that as credible a few days after the Packers crash out against their greatest rivals in a way that will be Remembered for ages? Sometimes credulity knows no bounds.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:12 pm

Seriously? You are gonna tout polls? The polls only reflect those fans who are inclined to answer the polls. If there are soooo many fans that are supportive of LaFraud, why aren't they here supporting him vociferously in the comments section?
Yep....crickets chirping.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:52 pm

Somewhat confusing, Amigo.

During the Rodgers Era, our seasons ended with some pretty good defensive performances. The 2021 season...one of Rodgers MVP years... the defense held SF without a TD. The previous season, it held THE GOAT, Tom Brady, to a passer rating of 75. 3 interceptions. A completion % of 55.

In 2011 and 2014, two of his other MVP years....we lost in 2011 because we uncharacteristically turned the ball over 4 times. In 2014, we left ourselves exposed on an onside kick. The defense actually played pretty well down the stretch and into the playoffs.

Stenavich is apparently on somebody's radar.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:15 pm

"Stenavich is apparently on somebody's radar."

What makes this apparent?

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:14 pm

Stories about him at Cleveland or in Michigan. I don't know if he'll get hired at either place, but he was interviewed for HC jobs a year ago. I think that makes it apparent that he's on somebody's radar.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:16 pm

LOL...yeah, I'm on somebody's radar too. All of us happen to be on his radar when we go zipping down the freeway.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 20, 2026 at 09:08 am

Who's radar? I don't see him scheduled for any "apparent" interviews.

He was turned down for the MI HC job

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 20, 2026 at 01:14 pm

King gave up two easy touchdowns and committed the key failure egregiously holding the WR on a 3rd and long and Pack gets off the field...

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heyjoe4's picture

January 22, 2026 at 07:56 am

Everything you write is true Z.

Policy is taking the safest road by bringing back MLF and leaving the lousy org structure in place. That isn't necessarily the wrong approach.

Assuming a solid DC will be hired - changes have to be made in the way MLF coaches. He has been terrible at clock management and terrible at making in-game adjustments. For example - he had no answer when the Bears came out and blitzed over and over in the 2H. Nothing was done to counter it.

My belief is that MLF gets too caught up on play calling to properly watch the clock, and adjust a game plan in-game. If he gets help there, things will be better. If he doesn't, then we're stuck on Groundhog's Day.

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dobber's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:26 am

If the Packers are betting on LaF, he could cultivate some good will (which he needs) with those of us who thought he should be gone with a long, hard look at the guys working under him and taking some action. Bisaccia needs to go. Underperforming position groups and their coaches need to be addressed. It's time for a re-tool, because just running it back doesn't seem wise. There's going to be a re-tool in the player depth chart: several guys who played a lot of snaps the last couple years are going away--either by necessity or by choice--take the bull by the horns and move forward on all fronts, LaF.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:35 am

Let me ask you this, if he goes into the season without significantly changing his coaching staff not forced by signings away, what conclusions do you think that you might draw?

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:18 pm

That the staff he had did a pretty good job in overcoming injuries. Look at the Oline, alone: Banks injured to start the season, Jenkins gone the second half of the season, Tom missing time at the end. And yet, it kept protecting Love and creating holes in the ground game.

We'll sacrifice Bisaccia, because as I've mentioned numerous times, Special Teams coaches don't change the nature of special teams, or the nature of the player you're coaching. You're going to have fuckups. Best course of action is to make choices that minimize the chances of special teams costing you.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:52 pm

Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air to have the new special teams coach lead with "first, we plan to do no harm". Second, we're hoping to not have a single word written about us. Third, we're going to punt out of bounds, if we punt, ever.

Finally, we anticipate fining anyone who gets a penalty on special teams.

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Guam's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:38 am

LaFleur is what we have for at least the next two years so all we can do is hope for some change in the assistant coaching ranks. A new ST coach and a new O-line coach are the minimum for me to have hope.

I am very disappointed in Policy. When he didn't immediately renew LaFleur last summer I had hoped he might be a strong leader. I now believe otherwise. Policy doesn't have the stones the Bills leadership does have.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:24 pm

Guam...why the new Oline coach? I listen to Tauscher and Wahle and Bulaga when they're on podcasts and I've never heard them express that. And I look at what we overcame, injury-wise, on the Oline, and I'm skeptical anybody would have done much better.

We need better linemen. Yes, it's nice when we develop Day 3 guys like Tom and Walker, but I think this is a real opportunity to upgrade.....we can replace Walker and Rhyan in the draft or FA. If we release Jenkins, it'll free up almost $20M....certainly enough to sign a quality OL in free agency.

That would essentially mean replacing 3 starters on the Oline. IF we replace them with better players, we'll have a better line.

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Guam's picture

January 20, 2026 at 10:59 am

I have heard Wahle be quite critical of Butkus, but that is besides my point. I don't believe Butkus has done a good job of recognizing his player's talents or developing them properly. Too often he has them playing out of position and not doing well.

I also wouldn't count on the $20MM from Jenkins going back into the O-line. The Packers are over the cap and have several young players to sign or lose. The O-line reinforcements will have to come from the draft.

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bassrock's picture

January 23, 2026 at 12:21 pm

Problem was they moved Jenkins to center when he was a stud at guard. That's when the demise started. Our center the year before had played much better but they let him walk instead of keeping some of the line together. Then bringing in Banks another monster bust and waste of cap space was the final nail in the lines coffin. Someone should be questioning gutes free agent signings last year besides Parsons as Hobbs and Banks were a huge mistake.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 19, 2026 at 09:22 pm

Yes—there was extreme motivation to pound the bears after Johnson’s “love to beat Lafleur” comments. But we crapped the bed.
Now, after Johnson again calls out the coach and packers, we have we have even more motivation.
If Lafleur doesn’t beat the Bears next year…?
…And you can bet their matchups next season will be nationally televised.

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bjb2012sime's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:28 am

Dear Matty,
What have you got on Policy? We never had a chance.
Keep up the mediocre work.
Sincerely,
Sean McDermott
John Harbaugh

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:20 pm

Dear Sean and John,

Get a picture of your team president in action with his Velcro gloves on.

Sincerely,

Matt

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egbertsouse's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:30 am

The homer fanboy media is really serving up the green and gold kool-aid these days. If keeping LaFlower is such a good idea, why the need for the constant defense?

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:34 am

homer fanboy media?

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barutanseijin's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:38 am

He means anybody who disagrees with him. It’s a nice heads i win tails you lose take.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:31 am

It is apparent that the Packers have become a monoculture – producing just the one type of executive –a Murphy, a Thompson, a McCarthy, a Gutekunst, a LaFleur and now a Policy. I posit that whatever success the Packers have enjoyed during these last 3 decades – has been chiefly due to the general excellence of their QBs - who have long masked the chronic deficiencies of the Packers brain trust. An imbalance that has more benefited the Packers management than Packers players and fans.

With Policy extending the contracts of LaFleur (and Gutekunst) – he has now mindlessly followed in the footsteps of his predecessor Mark Murphy. Thus bold leadership has, once again, been rejected for status quo management. That being so - it is highly unlikely that LaFleur will ever get over the 'hump'. So not buying any LaFleur stock.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:36 am

yeah, ok. one type of executive is currently the odds-on favorite to win the super bowl. The Wolf/Thompson well is deep and wildly successful pally. try harder

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:52 am

First, I am not your pally.

Secondly - if your talking about the Wolf management line - contrary to your opinion - they have had little or no success. After Ron Wolf - the GMs of Sherman, Thompson and Gutekunst have combined for just 1 SB. Nor have the Wolf transplants done any better. In fact, GMs Dorsey, Mckenzie and Elliot Wolf have 0 SBs on their resumes to date. Only John Schneider - who left the Packers in 2010 for Seattle is the outlier – having 2 SB appearances (1W and 1L). Moreover I do not classify Schneider as a typical Wolf protege.

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Green Bay Shareholder's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:49 am

Isn't Ron Wolf the one who stated winning only 1 Super Bowl with Brett Favre was like a Fart in the Wind ! I wonder what he thinks on the last decade ?

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pantz_bURp's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:26 pm

I hereby present myself. :D

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:30 pm

He made that comment after they got gob smacked by the bronco's run game in the 1997 season SB. Holmgren even told the D to let Denver score near game's end, with the game tied at 24 to save some clock and have a shot to tie them at 31-31.

Wolf was not a happy man.

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KenEllis's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:52 am

Schneider advocated for MUCH MORE FREE AGENT & TRADE ACTIVITY.

Since he departed for Seattle, Schneider has employed exactly that approach.

The Seahawks will be playing, at home, to get to their 3rd SB in the last 13 seasons.

GB has not been to a SB in 15 seasons.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:28 pm

Also 'The Legion of Boom' - which Schneider was instrumental in creating.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:17 pm

Bitter, at the end of last season Pat's fans were ready to shoot Elliot Wolf into the sun. The convos were much like the ones were reliving here on a daily basis. He hasn't been wildly successful, his team has caught lightning in a bottle this season, but he's certainly no messiah.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/comments/1hv18tw/why_in_the_world_does...

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Packers0808's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:16 pm

You need to be Jeys fan, then be happy with their record and changes that never changed anything for the better. You already have better why possibly be a Jets?

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:22 pm

"I posit that whatever success the Packers have enjoyed during these last 3 decades – has been chiefly due to the general excellence of their QBs."

Agree partially with that Alberta...but if you define success as winning Conference and/or SB championships, you'd need to add "and a top defense."

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:03 pm

Certainly. I was commenting more from a QB vs. Coach & GM value perspective. However the D - especially with Woodson and Mathews was invaluable.

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T7Steve's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:34 am

Won't matter who coaches or manages the team if they don't get some good playing bodies to be in the trenches and good coaches to pick the best and get them to play up to their potential.

You can have all kinds of artwork and flowers in your yard, but it won't look good if you don't mow your lawn.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:25 am

I think that the Packers may be in need of major landscaping.

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T7Steve's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:11 pm

Or the Grave Digger.

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GregC's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:41 am

I thought it was time to be done with LaFleur, based on how the season ended, but obviously Policy had decided to keep him long before the season ended. I can see how it had to be an all-or-nothing decision (either fire him or give him a big multi-year extension with total control of staff decisions), but boy, it sure is an awkward time for this.

A big point in LaFleur's favor was that he did not lose the locker room. The players, including Micah Parsons, have praised him more than they needed to. They really meant it. The cynic in me says that maybe they like him so much because he's nice to them even when they mess up. I hope they really want to win, because it sure didn't look like it down the stretch this season.

The Micah Parsons signing also plays into this. They are committed to trying to win a championship with him in the next couple years. Bringing in a new coach would've disrupted that plan. I still think they should've done it, but we'll see what happens.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:35 pm

"Bringing in a new coach would've disrupted that plan."

Disruption is coming nonetheless. Hafley's replacement will be, whether LaFleur believes it himself or not, likely the most important decision of his 8 year Packer tenure.

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Coldworld's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:26 am

I’d agree with the caveat that not necessarily more so than whom he may decide to retain.

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Major Snafu's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:44 am

Hope LeFluer, Gutt and all the packers watched that game last night. IMO the Bears D has arrived and they still have a draft coming up to shore up a few holes.
I thought the D was a little lacking this year even though they led the league in take aways. After last night I can see them getting a pass rusher and some O line help and becoming one very very solid football team for years to come.
Next year pack and bears game will not be close. The talent gap will be way too much.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:28 pm

I agree. I am predicting a losing record...Micah Parsons or no Micah Parsons. We are headed for dark times unfortunately. "Winter is coming!!"

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MooPack's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:46 am

I was driving around Green Bay and had a flat tire. I pulled into a gas station and the attendant walks out and looks at the tire and looks at me, and swear to God, says to me "Your tire go flat"? I said "No, I was just driving around and those other three (Policy, Gute, LaFleur) just swelled up on me. Here's your sign.

-The great Bill Engvall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ZkdHImCuQ

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:51 am

LaFleur is exhausting. But it is done, let it be written. My dissatisfaction with Policy's expensive, timid and milquetoast decision doesn't matter now.

Mark on LaFleur: "While he is not perfect, and there are things that must improve for the Packers to hoist a Lombardi Trophy in the years to come." I'd like to know what you believe those "things" are and what will LaFleur's manager will do see improvements happen?

With the status quo firmly entrenched now...I expect even less "supervision" of LaFleur by Policy than even Murphy who at least had some NFL game chops.

Hafley's replacement will likely be LaFleur's total call. Expect an internal status quo hire like Covington or Ainsley. Maybe he will go after his buddy Raheem Morris and that would be a crony hire I'd like...unlike Barry. Or Leonard who the HC respects...maybe entice Flores, who LaFleur has gone to war against several times and knows him well.

LaFleur and Flores...the Flower and the Flower.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:02 am

Thinking that the Packers may need more than flower power.

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T7Steve's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:03 am

Think maybe it might be a good idea to hire the X coach of the Jets 'cause he was the D coordinator for the Lions and will know them and the Bears well?

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:43 pm

Aaron Glenn?

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T7Steve's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:11 pm

Think so. I couldn't remember when I posted and was too lazy to look it up.

Thanks.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 20, 2026 at 09:12 am

Glenn is still the Jets HC.

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TruePackerBacker's picture

January 19, 2026 at 10:58 am

I think we are now in the phase where these writers have to do these "saving articles" to try and bring the fans to believe again. You guys are all trash and brainless. Just like the previous article "Pressure makes diamond" bullshit! Its not fun anymore... It's been 7 years now. Will most likely be 9-10 years by the time we finally see it for what it is just like how the Bills. It would be more interesting if we start playing a game of "what would be the cause of failure next season"

#MakePackersGreatAgain
#MakeGreenbayTitleTownAgain

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:55 pm

So trying to be fair TPB - independent sites like CHTV have to be more aware of their content. Otherwise a press pass could be denied to them by the Packers Communication Department - who have shown to be thin-skinned in the past. As a result - the occasional ass-kissing (and probably disingenuous) article may appear from time to time. Such as today.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:38 pm

And yesterday

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:34 pm

And tomorrow
And the day after tomorrow.
And the day....

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Zekerg's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:02 am

Buffalo fired their coach for an underwhelming 8-8 playoff record, but 3-6 in G.B gets you an extension and a huge raise.

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dblbogey's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:10 pm

Very stupid move by Buffalo.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:02 am

So ignoring 7 years is better than learning from them? It’s better logic to assume wholesale reinvention than a largely equivalent continuation? More contrary evidence is better than none?

What planet are you on? There no statistical or experiential basis for any of this, in fact it’s an argument that requires suspension of basic logic. You don’t actually provide an iota of support for your premise beyond empty statements lacking any specifics. How do you publish this with a straight face?

Come on Al, 2 “Ed Wood” level pieces in a couple of days?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:08 am

All this could be forming into the ultimate Ed Wood B horror film.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:39 am

Plan None From Lambeau Space.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:48 pm

Hey, I have plans! I'm smart!

Fredo Corleone might say.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:44 pm

Ed “ Policy” Wood.

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T7Steve's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:08 am

Maybe he's just trying to make the best of it because it's what we're stuck with and have to hope for the best? Even Bill B. was done after only two years of no playoff wins when Brady left the Patriots.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:34 am

So to my previous point - that a good QB can have a greater impact than a good coach. Especially the Packers QBs - who have carried LaFleur and co. for years.

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NFLfan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:41 pm

The writer lives in England and is not deeply knowledgeable about the Packers-it's a generic piece

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:10 pm

I really don't mind as it offers another perspective (from afar). Which has generated additional discourse and banter.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:46 pm

lol. Is that meant to be exculpatory, or just a dig at Johnny foreigners who opine on Americana? As far as I’m concerned, location or origin shouldn’t lower the criteria. One or two of those old country types have been quite sharp, even if their forebears were too complacent to sail to the promised land.

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Gman1976's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:18 am

It seems like Policy has the same attitude as the Steeler's owner. Just as long as the coach keeps the team above water and gets to the playoffs (and doesn't matter if the team wins), we will keep the coach. The stands are filled. Most everyone seems happy. But in our case, the coach makes collassol failures in key games. Oh well, most everyone is happy. GPG!

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splitpea1's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:37 am

Are you kidding? "Commitment to Complacency" should be the new Packers slogan. Most playoff teams except the newbies like Jacksonville and Carolina made significant changes after losing.

Cheesehead TV is leaking credibility by the day with these ongoing propaganda articles. Have respect for the fans and at least show some balance or a semblance of honesty.

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Green Bay Shareholder's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:54 am

I love it - a Banner at Lambeau - Commitment to Complacency, so fitting and a lot more fitting than Titletown unless you're talking B&W highlights.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:01 pm

I approve of the slogan.

Thinking s1 - that the Packers are aware that there will be a backlash to their re-hires. However, sadly, you, me and the others are probably the minority in calling for change. As the Packers see more of their audience as those who form their opinions from Packers generated press releases and Packers friendly media. Still we should not capitulate to the complacency.

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splitpea1's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:19 pm

I'm not sure how much we're in the minority unless you're including the most casual fans. Looking across the various social media platforms, there seems to be a lot of disdain.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:46 pm

I'm sure that the Packers intelligentsia will be as unavailable as possible - in order to limit their exposure to any backlash, disdain, anger etc. Still it is heartening to know that there has been somewhat of a groundswell of objection.

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TarynsEyes's picture

January 19, 2026 at 11:47 am

Action is the remedy for all things.

Inaction (Hope) is the food of failure,

Hope never saved anything, nor stop anything bad from happening. Doing does what Hope can never achieve. You can convince yourself that Hope made something happen, but you'd still be the fool that is lost and losing.

Doing action is not a guarantee of success, but it surely is 100% more apt to get something to happen than all the Hope one can ever muster.

So, according to the wise writers here at CHTV, or the flip-flop fence sitters, grab another strong grasping hand of Hope, and...you know, it's in the directions, rinse and repeat...Hopefully.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:19 pm

I am reminded of the John D. Rockefeller quote - " Don't be afraid to give up the good to go for the great." I understand risk management for an organization but I am less tolerant of timidity.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:42 pm

"Do not forsake the accomplishment of good for the pursuit of perfection."

I think it's a poster on at least one wall in every room at Lambeau.

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Houndog's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:01 pm

"it is trusting that a coach who has established himself as one of the best in the league will eventually make that final elusive step and bring a title back to Titletown".

What are you talking about, Mark?
In a year when the Lions made every effort to dethrone the Vikings as "Chokers of the NFC North", LaFleur saw that, recognized it, and went out of his way to reach out, snatch it, and bring that 'Title" to Green Bay!
Hell, he even managed to find a way to make it look easy and 'non-elusive", it's something he's one of the best in the league at, established, and can be trusted to do!

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TheBigCat's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:01 pm

Henry Ford fired the inventor of the carburetor because the guy had nothing new to contribute to the company. He was rewarded for his past performance, and fired due to an apparent lack of potential and future success. If MLF is "promoted" due to his past performance, then I have a good idea what "success" looks like to Packers: above average record, make the playoffs, prime time tv appearances, sell more merch. And that's fine, but then change it from "Titletown" to "Timidtown."

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pantz_bURp's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:18 pm

Remindz me of a movie quote:

"Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here".

>>>^..^<<<

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GreenandBold's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:22 pm

MLF is lucky he’s not coaching the Buffalo Bills . They have higher standards

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:17 pm

Did Buffalo fire their coach after not reaching the Super Bowl after 7 years? Nope. They waited until after 8 years. What higher standards are you referring to?

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:00 pm

McDermott was 98-50 and 8-8 in the playoffs after 9 seasons.

He was fired for his defensive collapses in big games, being a Defensive Coach.

LaFleur was extended after 7 seasons after recent offensive collapses in big games, being an Offensive Coach.

Right now, the Bills standards are different than the Packers' standards. Which is higher or better will be evidenced after the 2026 season.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:28 pm

Well, since Buffalo has 0 Super Bowls, and hasn't been to the Super Bowl in quite a while, and which just fired a very good coach.....I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Packers will be better in 2026 than the Bills.

It doesn't matter. Only Detroit, Minnesota, and Chicago matter.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:57 pm

I'm sure you'll be all over this come spring, but there's no way the Bears have a turnover ratio approaching the one they skated with this year. You get one of those unicorns every decade or two, and they just had one. Back to the middle for the Bears.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 20, 2026 at 03:47 pm

im with you on that...way too much "magic" this season for the Bears...back to earth next year...

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:57 pm

I would say that that the term “expectations” instead of “standards”, it might be harder to rebuff.

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relleum61's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:24 pm

So the apprenticeship of MLF continues in GB. I'm not surprised at the signing, I am surprised that Policy did not take the chance to exert some influence and suggest/demand changes the staff. Jim Harbaugh just fired his OC and line coach for the Chargers. Injuries to their tackles were not used as a reason to retain them. The Vikings just fired their offensive line coach. Again, injuries didn't excuse poor/inconsistent performance. And Reid is turning over some of his poorer performing staff. Stenovich, Butkus and Bisaccia need to go. MLF need to find that ruthless part of his persona if he wants to improve as a HC.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:46 pm

He left the ruthless part somewhere at his barber's shop.

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Heyward's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:31 pm

I'm shocked that a writer from Cheesehead TV would be pro-LaFleur. Shocked, I tell you, shocked.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:59 pm

You are aware this is a fan site, with volunteer writers, yes? If you want hard critical writing, start your own fucking site, or start writing and quit bitching.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 19, 2026 at 12:48 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/angry-bears-fans-react-to-rams-loss...

This is hilarious. Apparently "fans" don't know how to react when their team makes the playoffs once every 15 years or so.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:30 pm

Apparently, I upset a Bears fan. Was it too soon? My sincere apologies.

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NFLfan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:17 pm

Policy led everyone on by saying he would not immediately renew MLF & Gute's contracts. It was a normal fan reaction to read that statement as not being fully on board with them. He witnessed last year's poor showing and of course 'he is the son of Carmen Policy"-so....we all started thinking he would diligently research the best GM's/HC's and make the right move-lol

However, after listening to his interviews he was clearly very timid and overly beholden to Murphy. I knew he was another weak protege and there was zero chance he would right the ship. None of these under-performers want an outside capable GM /HC around them--too many appropriate questions would expose them.

Policy/Murphy were never going to make necessary moves.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:29 pm

So what is now the opportunity cost for doing nothing? I think enormous.

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NFLfan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:20 pm

Murphy focused on Titletown over the team for years-Policy ditto

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:07 pm

He should have stayed in this lane.

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ctpackman's picture

January 19, 2026 at 01:39 pm

I'm a Conn. Packer fan for 65 years and so so irritated at this point.

After experiencing the last several weeks of Packer football and the the most embarassing loss in 20 plus years to the bears, one would think that the writing was on the wall to clean house of the lack luster coaching that we've had to endure for the last five or so years.

It's obviuous that the upper management is not listening to the majority fan base.
MLF and his well appointed squad of failed coaches should all be let go including Gute.

They placed all the money into promoting a QB who is just an average and I mean average QB who really has failed at being an on the field leader.
He falls way short of of being an elite player.
If you want to see how an elite team plays and wins, look at the way the Sehawks and the Patriots have respnded this year, and yes look at the Bears too.
I've said it before, MLF has had his chance and despite his record, has failed to prove in the playoffs that GB is an Eilte team.

Its unfortunate that extensions were given before time allowed the policy makers to really review the last few years.
The sad thing is that the Packer fans/ Owners were not even considered or listened too.

Unless MLF and Gute make some severely needed changes that are positive, we are in for another replay of this year in 2026.

Remember, as the saying goes, " the fish stinks from the head"

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bassrock's picture

January 23, 2026 at 12:51 pm

I agree everyone saying Lefleur record is amazing haven't looked at how it breaks down over the 7 years. First 3 years 39-10 incredible correct. Next 4 years 37-30-1. So living off the coat tails of the first 3 years gets him a raise and an extension with no changes? I'm sorry the stink test doesn't pass musturd on this one. Same old same old in GB.

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lou's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:15 pm

I suggest you save this article to make it easier to slightly change in the next couple of years before submitting it again, shades of reading "This Is The Year Datone Jones Becomes A Star" which we read 3 off seasons in a row.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:18 pm

I posted this a few days ago, my intent to buy the Packers, before the ridiculous decision to re-sign LaFleur. I'm now even more certain of my intent. Green Bay management increasingly resembles a cadre of government employees: they make consequential decisions with other people’s money. An owner, by contrast, has real skin in the game. With two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, we managed only two Super Bowls in 30 years. Now, 7 years of Le Fleur brain farts are rewarded. That record indicts management, not the players. So, I’m renewing my effort to buy the team.

I realize — and fully respect — that the Green Bay Packers are a publicly held corporation and therefore cannot be “sold.”

That said, I’ve decided to proceed anyway.

I am quietly putting together an ownership group to acquire the Packers — while keeping them publicly held, as God, Curly Lambeau, and every share certificate framed in a Wisconsin rec room intended. Think of it as a hostile takeover wrapped in Midwestern civility.

To that end, I’m putting out feelers to potential partners for my acquisition. The criteria are simple and non-negotiable:

• You must have been born in Wisconsin.
• You must have been a Packer fan for at least ten years.
• You must be worth at least $500 million.

I will be transparent: I personally do not meet that last requirement. But this is my idea, and I am the entrepreneurial visionary organizing this transaction, so I am granting myself an exemption. Vision counts.

I suspect the team will cost north of a billion dollars, but rest assured: we will continue to allow Wisconsin grocers, teachers, bartenders, dairy farmers, snowplow drivers, Culver’s employees, and anyone who has ever tailgated in a blizzard at Lambeau to buy shares — so we will still be considered “publicly held,” just… under new management.

In fact, we will lean into tradition: annual share meetings in Green Bay, brats on the grill, a mandatory Friday night fish fry before every major vote, and a standing acknowledgement that Wisconsin road construction season is, as always, eternal.

If you meet the above qualifications — and, more importantly, have the money — please contact me at ImBuyingThePackers.org.

Please don’t forget to send your most recent bank statement. For verification purposes only, of course. Bonus points if it was printed at a bank in Green Bay, Madison, Milwaukee, or anywhere along Highway 41.

P.S. Ability to correctly pronounce “Oconomowoc,” “Ashwaubenon,” “Sheboygan,” “Wauwatosa,” and “Kohler” will be viewed favorably — as will proof that you’ve once scraped ice off your car after a night game at Lambeau, or proudly posed with a freshly caught Lake Winnebago walleye.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 03:49 pm

I like your initiative J.L. At the very least in attempting to become an agent for change. Unfortunately I cannot participate - as I meet only one of the criteria. However your post has prompted me to recall a thought I had some time ago.

As we know - the Packers are owned by over a half a million fans (stockholders). Of course their rights have been almost entirely eliminated by the Packers legal counsel - so as to give the stockholders practically no voice in the business and direction of the organization. Instead the Packers have given just the illusion of participation with the annual stockholders meeting - which is essentially a rubber-stamping function - with a supervised Q & A session.

Over the years of watching the Packers grow - I have been astounded by the great lengths that the Packers bureaucracy have gone to segregate the stockholders from the management. Very much like the relationship between shareholders and the management of a publicly traded company. Except shareholders of publicly traded companies have more rights than a GBP shareholder.

Also what confounded me was that there was no representation from the ownership group (stockholders) sitting on the Board! Nor have I read of the Board - at any time -inviting representation from the stockholders.

The Packers are the only community-owned professional non-profit sports franchise in North America. While major European soccer clubs like FC Barcelona and Germany's Bundesliga teams (e.g., Bayern Munich) use member (socio) or fan-majority ownership. What these clubs have in common is that fans do sit on the Boards of Directors. In these models, fan owners typically use a democratic process—such as voting through a supporters' trust or "socios" membership—to elect representatives to the club's board. So we know that these models exist and work elsewhere. So why not on the GBP? I think that many of us may have an answer to this question.

Perhaps it's time for the Packers stockholders to form their own trust, socio, association or union? It can start very simply with a facebook page, group chat and / email list. Or even today with your post J.L. With the objective being that the Stockholders should seek representation on the Board of Directors (as well as an exclusive forum for themselves). It certainly may be easier than raising several billions dollars and attempting a hostile takeover of a legally-girded, non-profit corporation.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:18 pm

I love your idea and think it should be taken seriously. I'm also giving you an exemption from the $500 million rule and am making you part of my future ownership group,

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 04:58 pm

Thank you JL for the exemption. Especially after I checked my personal balance sheet and realized that I was some zeroes short of qualification. I look forward to the future notices.

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Coldworld's picture

January 19, 2026 at 05:36 pm

The only thing Packers Shareholders can vote on is membership of the Board. There are about 45 board members, each on 3 year terms, so 15 or so come up for re-election each year.

Given Murphy recommended each one and most were present to OK his structure and nearly all for the approval of Policy to replace him, probably need to put up 15 candidates for 2 years to have a chance at removing Policy and have the Board push through a legitimate search for a replacement. Don’t sign those proxies!

Unfortunately, the nomination process is essentially giving a name to the Directors Affairs Committee, who are in no way obliged to accept that person and are all, you guessed it appointed by Murphy or Policy.

Starting to sound like a good Stalinist “democracy”? It was designed to protect the wise from the masses. In fact the idea was that the President, a non football
Person envisaged to be an expert outsider, who was the check on the football side. Murphy blew all that up, and the great and good he’d assembled around him all lapped it up. The system is fixed, it won’t happen.

The only way forward is if the appointees are so socially embarrassed that they pay attention or grow a spine, depending on the individual. Good luck. Identify them, tell them they suck in Church, at the Supermarket, in Madison or on the golf course. Good luck with that unless you are part of their social set. Otherwise get loud in the media, at the Meeting, withhold proxies, deface them, write in a pre-publicized slate. It won’t work legally but it would be hugely embarrassing.

If the Board start to be embarrassed, then things b might change. They ought to be already after allowing Murphy to get away with what he did structurally and then again by allowing him to depart without correcting it. Being a Packer Board member should be something to be red faced about at the moment. If the team struggles, it could rapidly become a lot more so. You can see the list of shame in full here: https://www.packers.com/team/executive-committee

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 19, 2026 at 07:03 pm

Ah yes - the insidiousness of Mark Murphy. And turning the Board of Directors into the country club set. And that any unsponsored Board nomination will be rejected - with stockholders treated like barbarians at the gate. And that sitting a stockholder representative on the Board will mostly be an involuntary act of the current membership. Agree - the system has been rigged.

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packergal's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:09 am

Hello JL,

While I do not meet your financial criteria, can I have an exemption also?

I can pronounce Oconomowoc.

In addition, in a different post on the "power of North Atlantic Cod" by Leotis, I let Leotis know that I served Policy, Gutey and MLF at Culvers during their dinner meeting there last week.

However, they did not have North Atlantic Cod.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:22 pm

another servant sent here from the organization to tell us they are great.

Remember when TT left and Murphy decided the new GM?
he choosed gutekunst over Eliot Wolf.
Wolf Is the patriots GM and he is taking the pats to SB again.
gutekunst? the King of dead money! tons of dead money zero SB.

this Is a rotten franchise from the top and cheesehead TV Is part of the rotteness.

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Coldworld's picture

January 20, 2026 at 08:33 am

If I recall, he chose keeping a role for Ball over replacing TT with him as planned or with a direct replacement. That removed the interest of some and led to departures (there were suggestions that not everyone had enjoyed Ball’s time as de facto leader). Gute was the one who accepted the heavily reduced role of GM.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 20, 2026 at 09:22 am

Reporting at the time of Muphy's decision for a new GM leaned heavily toward Ball. McCarthy told Murphy he'd resign if Ball became GM. So Mr. Bold Mark created a temporary football committee with MM, Ball and his new hire of Gutey as GM of Player Personnel co-equals at the table chaired by Murphy.

That was in late 2017. Now the 8+ year temporary Football Committee is set in cement by Policy's policies.

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ricky's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:37 pm

In brief, keep doing the same thing with the same HC and expect something different to happen. There is a name for this sort of behavior.
Sean McDermott just got fired by the Bills. He was with the team for nine years, had a 98-50 regular season record (.662) and was 8-8 in the playoffs. In seven years. LaFleur has a regular season record of 76-40-1 (.654) and is 3-6 in the playoffs. He did manage to have success with Rodgers as his QB, with two NFC championship games his first two years. McDermott also led the Bills to two championship games, but lost twice to KC.
Some teams look at the results and say, "good isn't good enough." Others hope that "staying the course" will somehow get better.

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brenner's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:41 pm

First of all I have to say that it's not a vocal minority that wanted LaFluer gone. If anything it was and is a vocal majority of packer fans.

I understand the idea of "who's available that could do better?"

I think there's blame to go around for this seasons failures and LaFleur gets his share for sure.

On offense, Steno has to take a share or 2 of the blame, being the OC. OL play has dropped dramatically since he was promoted and butkus took over. If Steno isn't willing to go back to OL coach, it's time to move on, along with the current OL coach.

ST has been something of a joke since Howard got the SB MVP in 96, but that needs an overhaul too.

The lack of good corners I will definitely put on Gutey, going back to the last few drafts of basically ignoring the position.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 20, 2026 at 07:44 pm

You are not wrong!

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

January 19, 2026 at 02:43 pm

It only makes sense if you're another team in the NFC North division.

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Since&#039;75's picture

January 19, 2026 at 06:00 pm

"Trusting LaFleur to eventually get over the hump......."

You bet, i'm looking for that head coaching, 8th year, 10th year leap.

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