That rule in the end zone has never made much sense to me because of the “football move” element. To me, going deliberately to ground is a football move. Perhaps I played too much Rugby, but that’s never made sense.

That’s said, I believe it was an incompletion under the rule, even if my gut tells me it shouldn’t be.

Belichick made a 3rd stringer compete. Run, run, and run some more, then play action when needed. A win is a win, at the end of the day, a W is better than a L. But, as the ultimate goal is a SB, our team needs a lot of work

It began to work again once we started to pass a little deeper again. Unsurprisingly. If all you do is run, defenses are going to make it more and more difficult. The Pats D isn’t Bears bad.

It was, one of my interests of this game, to see how our D would respond,as the obvious game plan was to run straight at our D, everyone knew that was the Patriots intent, especially, with a 3rd string QB. But, at times our D was simply gouged.And then the play action pass off the Patriots run, made our D look confused. I want to see such a better performance of our defense, moving forward, when it's a mano e mono situation

I thought the D did great for the most part considering they were without Ja and Amos. Also it was mainly Harris and Stevenson they were fighting, not Zappe. They did a better job than week 2, but the run D has to be more consistent

Agreed on all counts, although you can be sure that, for most of the season, as the offense figures things out (they were grooving in the second half), Rodgers will be better

I would have four down linemen and squeeze to the middle. Walker and Campbell should be able to improvise.
Garvin is a no show.

Bellicheck made sure that that QB established enough of a passing game. Something ours didn’t have for a good portion of the middle game.

34 carries(not counting Rodgers) got to them in the end. Missing Guy in the rotation probably didn't help them much. My draft crush Barmore had a hell of a 2nd half of the season last year but is starting slow this year.

That's what happens when they have 6 big guys and they're pulling guards on 3/4 of the plays. Pair that up with GB mostly having 2-3 DL on the field and you have that.

Gary looks lost in the run game at times too. Poor job setting the edge at least 3 times today.

They were gouging us with 7 in the box.

Agree with first one. Secondary was without Ja and Amos, to be fair, and there should have been a delay of game on the TD Stokes allowed. Rodgers had a couple of nice returns - also, the Pats' STs are extremely good.

I think he’s still not as mobile as he was before the injury, when he was very good at LT. Long term I don’t know, but this year I agree. It will be interesting to see, but I thought Newman had a better game this week.

I remember those heady days (all of three weeks ago) when it was great to have Elgton Jenkins back in the lineup even though he was not 100% and was playing out of position. It doesn't feel that way anymore. Hard to believe Yosh Nijman can play so well at LT but can't play RT.

I was going to post something similar, and you beat me to the punch and expressed it better. I'm not an O-lineman or coach, but it appears that (to his credit) EJ came back on an aggressive timetable, and is far from 100%. The Pack should put him in a better position to succeed.

After Jenkins start to practice, I suppose he was back at his basic - left side of the OL. As I already stated it is not easy to change the side. Belichik knows that and almost all pressure from Judon went through outside of Jenkins, meaning he did not do his footwork properly. He was closing inside (what you'll expect from guy who is used to play on the left side of the ball) opening possibility for Judon to run around him.

And, I agree with some posters here that he is surely not yet on 100% with his injured knee, what gives him another problem to solve. I say he is pro-bowl LG and serviceable LT. He has nothing to do on the right side. I hope Packers are preparing Nijman to play RT and that is why they did not use him in this game.

Bakh was very rusty. He allowed several pressures and almost one sack. AR avoid the sack by his feet, but play oucome was not good (if I remember correctly it was incomplete pass).

Also, why they are not considering Lewis as RT. He played that position better than Jenkins... I know, I know, he does not have enough weight, but he has excellent technique.

Every other sports has gone electronic - and I bet baseball does it too when they go to a pitch clock - tennis doesnt call lines at all - automatic . There is no reason at all that they linesman who is making the delay call doesnt have a mike in his ear and somebody in the stands - or it is automatic sync to that mike when it hits zero and if the ball hasnt moved - it is delay penalty.

Yes -that’s pathetic officiating on display. They (refs) were demonstrating great focus when ARod caught them offsides, but allowed Bellcheat to call his timeout.

I said that zebras will call few times in favour of Belichik. It is common thing. Tom Brady and BB are protected species in NFL - there is the reason why their nick name is Cheatriots.

Beside that, whole zebra team looks lost. Remember that call on Kenny Clark for personel faul? They called it first to Cheatriots, than corrected to Packers side. And, that happened several times during the game (two of that calls came on ST plays).

Trade him and a 3rd, 4th or 5th rounder to the Commanders for DT Daron Payne. It doesn't look like they're going to be good this year. Or sign Ndamukong Suh or Sheldon Richardson

The Refs should be dismissed for the blatent second delay call they missed or at the very least disciplined. It was obvious. Even the game analysists said they screwed up. That could very well have cost the Packers a W.

An ugly win is an ugly win.
Gary is a beast but can't do it all my himself.
Both O & D lines got pushed around way too much.
Don't understand some of the play calls as usual. Too cute almost cost us.
12 played poorly but great when he needed to.
No use of the TE in any way but good to see Bob get the TD. Now use him more.
Crosby has no leg for the end zone and they had good runbacks for good field position.
Mason and the FG operation looks good so far this year.
We need Amos and Alexander back ASAP.
The Bears and Lions lost so kept pace with the Queens.
GPG, win big in England- have a beer and scone for me please!

I'm not sure we really deserved to win this game, but we did. Belichick, Jr. helped us out in OT by getting a little soft in coverage.

In this instance, the game ball does go to The Trust Factor.

Agree about Barry. At least the run defense finally stiffened when it needed to.

Jenkins was BAD. Once C. Jones is off the non-football list, maybe the Packers should consider him.

Romo had some good advice.

Bonehead awards: 1) MLF wasting a timeout on a near-hopeless challenge; 1A) play-calling on the next-to-last drive, 2) Amari not making a fair catch with several seconds left, 3) Doubs and his lack of ball security twice, 4) Anyone who thought the Pats had a weak secondary.

What we need to see more of: The fourth-and-one play call in the third quarter; ANYTHING to catch the defense off-guard. Very well-executed!

Saquon Barkley is likely licking his chops for next week in London.

A win is a win, but when this team actually plays a team with a really good offense, I don't think it will be pretty.

Bottom line: this team might be 3-1, but it has a lot of growing to do. AND it needs to take better care of the football.

Control and two steps and breaking the plane is a TD. 3 second delay of game? C'MON MAN. This team is sooo hard to watch.

I'm sorry. Did the Packers lose?

- Yep, Jenkins back to guard
- Doubs catches well. But he needs to practice securing the ball
- Well, Rodgers did not fall apart after the Doubs fumble (Rodgers did take the responsibility for that fumble in his presser). Nor did he fall apart after the pick 6. So Packers have that going for them.
- Patriots 6 man offensive line!

Go on the road, beat the greatest QB of all time. Come home, get taken to overtime by a third string QB. Such is the life of the Green Bay Packers fan.

Another game without the Packers playing a full 60 minutes. Our offense was lackluster in the first he half. Our receivers seemed to be lost out there. Defense played very well and only allowed 3 points in the first half. Gary is becoming a force and a game wrecker.

Rodgers made some brilliant throws in the second half and OT. Doubs makes rookie mistakes but he is going to evolve into a solid weapon for the Packers offense. Rodgers TD to Tonyan was perfect. He should have had to TDs to Doubs but he lost it when he hit the ground. Rodgers throw on that play was perfectly placed. Cobbs was huge in the 2nd half.

Officiating was terrible and looked like they were trying to give the game to the Pats. No excuse for not calling the second delay of game.

I like Jenkins but he was bad today. Move him back to LG and put Runyon at RG. RT is the first position on the OL where Jenkins has not looked good.

MLF needs to keep getting the ball to Jones and Dillon.

On the London! Thanks, Since ‘61

The first half was absolutely ugly offensive football. I have thought the same thing since week 1. It’s going to take some time for the offense to come together. Be patient I told myself. However, it should gradually improve. Shouldn’t it? They played most of that half like they had never met each other. Why? This is week 4!

The second half was better by the offense. Rodgers seemed to get it going a bit. Some excellent drives etcetera. Of course, then the defense starts playing two hand touch. Did we not expect the Patriots to run? My God it was a 3 rd string rookie! They ran and ran and ran some more. It was barely good enough.

Bottom line is this team needs to start playing much much better. The level of play is completely inconsistent. I believe your record is what it is. Right now this team is very fortunate to be 3-1. A banged up Tampa Bay and thin Patriots squad gave us all we could handle. I get your not going to blow everyone out every week, but they need to come together quickly.

Wasn't able to watch the game, but tuned into Larry and Wayne as always. McCarren made a comment in pregame that not having QB1 in the lineup may be beneficial to the Pats due to him being a turnover machine. Larry felt QB2 might not win it for them, but he likely wouldn't lose it. Seems QB3, and our overall welcoming approach to him almost got the job done. Good for the kid not crapping himself on the big stage.

I'm glad we didn't let this one slip away. I wish I felt this team was improving. I don't. We have some dynamic, talented players, and a whole lotta WTF. Also, I'm sad to say I think Wayne Larrivee is starting to lose it; incorrect calls, sticking to a narrative to sell the game, rote phrases rather than helping the listener "see" the game. Sucks. McCarren and Kuhn do a nice job, though.

The drop notwithstanding, Doubs looks like he has the makings of a special player.

In other news, KC is kicking the Buc's ass. Last week the excuse was that they did not have any WRs. Well, what is the excuse today?

Remeber, there were games where the Rams looked bad last year (at SF, at GB), and they still managed to win it all. If the Packers can learn from their mistakes, have better play-calling, and be more consistent on D, all hope for Rodgers' second ring is not lost. Easier said then done though. GPG!

Refs were awful a lot of holding going on no calls, not a good game plan by MLF ,Cobb coming up big at important times.

Well....Maybe having to play 5 quarters of football will give O & D some wind in their sails for 3 of 4 quarters of a game next week.

I’m becoming an opioid abuser watching this team.
I expected a blowout, and when it wasn’t happening, my frustration level made me decide I’m never returning my neighbor’s mower.
But, I it makes me feel so much better when I see our head coach on the sidelines, flapping his arms like the karate kid—very inspiring and creative for the offense.
Well, at least we won.
Go Packers!!

MLF has not shown me any growth as an inovative young coaching genius that some proclaimed him to be...he, in my eyes isn't much better, if any better than McCarthy, and Joe Barry...blah...let that dude from the Raiders, the special team coach, have more say in things...this team is toooo mediocre for all the talent thats on the roster....I get jealous watching other defense's that don't have the players the Packers have, fly around and take a few chances...Barry is way too vanilla for me...

I agree totally! I was thinking the same thing about putting Jenkins back to guard. Hes allowed More pressures in the last 3 games than probably his whole career previous to his injury!

The Packers are 3 & 1 with wins over the Bears, Brady & Belichick

That is all……

Line should be Bakh-Jenkins-Myers-Runyan-Yosh

"I'm starting to think Elgton Jenkins should move back to guard."

Jenkins is an All-Pro Guard and an above average RT. I don't see why Yosh can't play RT. The coaching staff must know but I'd like to see Yosh get a chance.

I hate that LaFleur and Barry remind me so much of McCarthy and Capers. The same poor adjustments, clock management, same comments after games, "We'll get it fixed" or a variation of. For all the games he's won, LaFleur still comes across as in over his head. Why I don't know.

I just thumbs up'ed a bunch of the posts that call MLF and Barry to task rather than go a long rant. Here's the short version: ANOTHER game where we are not prepared, soft D with guys left wide open (Nagler, send Barry a tape of your screaming at the screen) and poor play calling. God forbid they should continue with the some of the very quick short passes that were successful last week.

It is the coaching that is holding this team back. Even with the pick 6, and fumble, this should have been a blow out. The 3-1 record is going to cover up for the coaching failures that will show up in Jan.

Aaaaarrrgggghhhh!

GPG!

Ok call me crazy but in this day and age the NFL can't find a better way of calling delay of game when the clock expires??? Multiple games it's been missed and explained away as the ref sees zero then looks to see if the ball has been snapped....How about a frigging buzzer or something?? Ridiculous

Yeah, it was the refs’ fault! Wasaaaaaa-waaaaaaaaaa! Boo-hoo! Whiiiiiiiiine!
Good god! I thought I had signed in to Daily Norseman for a minute.

You know I thought journalism did not need to use the “f” word to make a point. If a journalist has to resort to using that word maybe they should go back to English 101.

PS. I suppose the response will be “I’m not a journalist.” Which of course then would be correct.

Joe Barry needs to go! Clueless in Greenbay is the name of that movie! ML is not to far behind him in incompetence! To much talent on this team to have that shit show of a performance!

Hey McFly I mean Murphy time to get involved with your young coach!!! let's move on from Joe Barry or should we just hang onto him like we did with our special teams coach last year? How did that work out for you?

How about this:

For the first time since 1921… the Green Bay Packers have as many franchise wins as the Chicago Bears at 785 sitting atop the NFL.