How the Packers' Offense Can Sustain Success

As the NFL enters week nine, we are officially halfway through the 2025 NFL season. The Packers are 5-1-1, leading both the NFC North and the NFC itself. If the playoffs started today, they’d have a week off to heal up and collect themselves: a crucial advantage considering how early Green Bay’s bye week fell on the schedule. 

But the playoffs don’t start today, and there’s a whole lot of football between now and then. 

Now, for as well as the Packers have played, there are still some cracks showing through the veneer. The Packers’ offense has been a rocky, up and down unit so far through seven games, lurching from the offensive explosion in Dallas to the stonewalled effort in Cleveland. When you have an offense that is capable of either extreme, there’s an important factor for consideration, and it’s the topic of today’s article: offensive sustainability

In defining sustainability, there are a couple of different benchmarks we can work through, but I lean towards placing heavy emphasis on a couple of key metrics. These are: red zone efficiency, third down conversion rate, turnover differential, and success rate. They each come together to paint a picture of how efficiently an offense runs: turning opportunities into points, keeping the offense on the field in crucial moments, avoiding costly errors, and staying in advantageous down / distances. 

But sustainability can come in so many forms in the NFL, and it stems from what you want to be, as an offense. Are you a run heavy, grind it out offense that looks to stay ahead of the chains? Do you live in the quick game / RPO world, looking to manipulate the defense into advantages you can exploit? Or are you an air raid, pass heavy offense that looks to create lots of deep, explosive plays? 

Of course, no team can truly live in the most extreme ends of the spectrum without sacrificing that sustainability. Giving the defense one thing to key on is begging to have that one thing shut down when it matters most: the playoffs. 

A healthy run/pass ratio is a reflection of that idea. The Packers currently sit at a 51% pass rate, about the same as it was when I wrote about the running game in general a few weeks ago. That number has the Packers sitting as the #7 most run heavy team in the league, just a few percentage points behind the Buffalo Bills, who sit at #1 in the league in run rate. 

As one of the most balanced teams in the league, there is a ton of weight to fall onto the shoulders of Josh Jacobs and the offensive line. So how sustainable has the running game looked?

I’ve said it before, but I personally consider yards before / after contact to be the ultimate measuring stick for a running game. Those two splits can give you such a good picture of a team’s rushing attack, which can be so multi-faceted. 

So far though 2025, the Packers are averaging about 1.19 yards before contact, 22nd in the league (which averages around 1.4 YBC). This stat is a great indicator of how a team sets up the running game. Offensive line performance and running back vision are the main contributors. In yards after contact, the Packers as a team are averaging 2.74, which would also land them at 22nd in the league (2.89 yards is the average). This is more indicative of a running back’s ability to fight through that contact, and create extra yards for themselves. 

So through those metrics, the Packers are falling towards the bottom third of the league in areas that you really don’t want to be at the bottom of, as far as creating a sustainable running game. Really, yards before contact is measuring how hard are you are making life for your running backs

This isn’t to say that the Packers have a bad rushing attack. Remember those other key metrics we talked about at the top? Let’s look at how the rushing attack measures up. 




Metric

Packers performance

+/- league average

Success Rate

44.33%

+2.49 

EPA per Play

0.009

+0.032

Yards per Attempt

3.94

-0.44 

Third Down Conversion

53.85%

+3.28

 

From a top-down, numbers only perspective, the Packers do have an efficient rushing attack. You’d like to get that yards per attempt number up, but that's another reflection of the yards before/after conversation. 

Now in the passing game, it’s been a different story for the Packers. Green Bay has been exceptional when passing the ball, and Jordan Love’s performance on Sunday Fight Football put the league on notice to that fact. Let’s take a look at the same chart, but focusing on the passing offense. 




Metric

Packers performance

+/- league average

Success Rate

54.45%

+6.00 

EPA per Play

0.422

+0.262

Yards per Attempt

8.44

+1.40

Third Down Conversion

48.28%

+9.18

 

The passing game is always a bit hard to throw into the discussion surrounding a sustainable offense. There are so many more moving parts to discuss here, and it’s difficult to find just one metric to pick out to show that trait. To me, success rate is the closest that we can get to (remember, success rate measures whether or not a play is keeping a team ahead of the chains in getting first downs: 6 yards on first down, half the length remaining on second, and the total remaining yardage on third / fourth down). 

Now that we’ve got a clearer picture of the component parts of the offense, how does it look when it’s all put together? Here’s the same chart, but with a couple extra metrics thrown in. 




Metric

Packers performance

+/- league average

Success Rate

49.52

+4.01 

EPA per Play

0.222

+0.142

Yards per Attempt

6.24

+0.38

Third Down Conversion

48.28%

+9.18

Red Zone Efficiency

70%

+12.23

Turnover Differential

+1

+1.06

 

The Packers have an above average offense, no matter which way you slice it. 

Remember those metrics I identified as key measurements of sustainability at the beginning of the article? The Packers are above league average in every single one of them. Red Zone efficiency: check. Third down conversion rate: check. Turnover differential: check. Success rate: check. 

So as we look forward to the rest of the season, how can the Packers sustain their success? 

It comes in the form of adding new wrinkles to an offense, while maintaining stability on what you already do well. As we have discussed, the Packers are a run-heavy team. With a 52% run ratio, the running game is designed to act as the steady, humming engine of the offense, while the passing attack is the injection of nitrous to get them over the finish line. 

The offensive line obviously has a part to play in all this. Over the second half of the season, it’s probably the biggest question mark on the entire team. And it starts with the simple question of: can the Packers find (and stick to) a starting lineup? The team has gotten remarkably more healthy (knock on all the wood) over the last few weeks, but as long as there is an ongoing rotation at right guard, there is uncertainty. Jordan Morgan spent two weeks (Cincinnati and Arizona) as the starter, with Sean Rhyan riding the bench, only for Rhyan to come back and take a far majority of snaps in the Pittsburgh game. 

In the past when the team has had rotations at spots on the offensive line (think the left tackle spot in 2023), the team settled into a starter late in the season and allowed that player to get comfortable at the position. If that strategy is going to come into play again in 2025, it must happen soon. 

As far as adding new wrinkles to the 2025 Packers, I think we got a major preview of that on Sunday. It came in the form of #9 Christian Watson returning to the lineup, and having an instant impact. 

If you are reading this article, I probably don’t need to spell out all the ways that Watson changes the game. But he’s just the perfect player for this offense. Watch Josh Jacobs’ rushing touchdown and Tucker Kraft’s first touchdown, and try to spot who’s clearing the way for them. That’s right, it’s big #9. Not to mention Love’s big throw to Watson to set up a touchdown (on what may have been Love’s best throw of the night). The Packers have a champagne problem at wide receiver, when figuring out how to fit all these pieces together, but inserting Watson has paid instant dividends. 

Now, the other part of the formula, maintaining stability on what’s already working. That’s Jordan Love. For anyone out there who is still holding onto their priors, who still doesn’t think Jordan Love has it, or can’t come up with big plays when it matters most, I invite you to open your eyes and join the real world. 

After a 2024 season that was (as it’s becoming more and more obvious) marred by injuries and issues outside of his control, Love has seized the 2025 season by the reins. The Packers will go as far as Jordan will take them this season. 

Part of that means suiting the offense around his skill set. In the Steelers game, I thought Matt LaFleur did an excellent job of creating a gameplan that would maximize the quick passing game, something that the Packers had the lowest league rate in, prior to Sunday’s game. Against Pittsburgh, Jordan attempted 22/39 passes in the “quick game” (released within 2.5 seconds), for a 59% rate, up twelve points from his season long average. And well, we saw the results. 

Was it so effective because the Steelers weren’t expecting the Packers to utilize it? It’s worth pointing out that Pittsburg has also been extremely susceptible to that style of offense in past games too. While other teams might not share the Steelers’ unique weakness to it, it’s an area that the Packers must continue to exploit. 

Green Bay has a date with the Carolina Panthers next on the schedule, and while no game in the NFL is a gimmie, the Packers have an excellent opportunity to build on the success they created for themselves in Pittsburg. While you are watching, remember the keys we talked about today: exploit the quick game, find stability on the offensive line, and increase yards before contact in the running game. 

 

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

October 29, 2025 at 10:06 am

The simple solution: Stay healthy.
The offense struggled when half the offensive line was out/injured.

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murf7777's picture

October 29, 2025 at 10:35 am

Great write-up, and thanks for the stats! I think third-down and red zone conversions are crucial, especially in the playoffs. We didn’t always have that consistency in the past.

On Love, I completely agree with your assessment. I’d add that he’s becoming one of the better QBs against the blitz. His quick release plays against Pittsburgh seemed to reflect that, though I don’t have the stats. Pittsburgh appeared to blitz often, and the play to Watson was outstanding. Love read the safety biting on another route, and his incredible throw neutralized the safety, creating a one-on-one opportunity for Watson. Another impressive moment was when Love, while being hit, threw the ball to Kraft. With someone like Kraft in single coverage, it’s worth the risk to take a shot like that. Keeping in mind the CB is at a big disadvantage with his back to the play. Love has excellent field vision.

I also wonder if rotating Morgan and Rhyan for the rest of the season is a big deal. Defensive lines rotate players all the time, so wouldn’t it help keep them fresher?

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CheeseEdWest2's picture

October 29, 2025 at 12:00 pm

Seems like they are watching for one guy to stand out. In the meantime the competition has to benefit both. They are working on their craft while Tucker works on his Kraft. The game experience seems to be making them both better.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 29, 2025 at 12:27 pm

DL is so much different than OL. Packers, under Stenovich as OL and then as Coordinator, has become enthralled with musical chairs on the OL...something few, if any other teams do with healthy OL starting players.

Good grief he's been rotating Rhyan for 3 years at RG and he still hasn't claimed the starting job. Maybe this means he never will and you are just limiting the development of a better talent in Morgan.

OL needs to be very familiar with their wingmen and know their assignments as much as their own. Communicate with each other to plow the road on run plays and work as a unit on pass blocking.

I believe the weak run blocking is precisely due to not being a familiar, cohesive group. Game 8 coming and they are still not playing as a unit...especially in run snaps. This is due to all the injuries since day 1 in camp and Stenovich's indecision as to the Best 5 are.

Just let Morgan or Rhyan (Morgan is my choice) play next to Jenks and Tom for the rest of the season!

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murf7777's picture

October 29, 2025 at 02:12 pm

Thanks for the response, makes sense to me.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2025 at 02:41 pm

murf, last year in the playoffs, Jenkins got hurt and we didn't have anybody who had played at all to replace him. It killed the offense. I think the Packers would like to see if they can make sure that doesn't happen again this year.

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Celise...'s picture

October 30, 2025 at 08:20 am

isn't that why they have a practice squad? to teach them how to play those positions? don't they also get practice during the week, albeit fewer reps? we don't platoon the quarterback in case he should get hurt. and they are not doing it with every lineman

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NFLfan's picture

October 29, 2025 at 10:56 am

Always enjoy Kalani's articles.

I would love to see film re: what is happening on the O-Line when Jacobs is running the ball-there seems to be a lack of ease that is affecting the run game. Is it Jacob's run style? Are there O-Line players who consistently get beat? How does Jacob's running style differ from other RB's? Can this group learn to run-block more effectively?

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Kalani Jones's picture

October 29, 2025 at 01:24 pm

Funny you should ask for that film breakdown, seeing how I explored that exact topic a few weeks ago: https://open.substack.com/pub/kalanijones/p/green-bay-breakdowns-film-re...

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NFLfan's picture

October 29, 2025 at 06:09 pm

Thanks, I will look into that.

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splitpea1's picture

October 29, 2025 at 11:18 am

There it is: quick passing game! If you want to get the QB in rhythm early, loosen up the front end of the defense, and sustain drives, this is the way to go. This has been the missing link in the Packers offense, and unless the running game is churning out nice gains consistently, we need to continue doing this.

If we have a champagne problem at WR now, then we'll have a glut when Reed gets back. I just hope everybody stays happy (and they should if we're winning), because there's almost not enough ball to go around with all these options including the TEs.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2025 at 06:41 pm

Not even close to enough snaps to utilize all the targets on the roster, no matter how few run plays. Reed Wilson Golden Doubs Kraft and the whole RB room. Yes that's counting #11 as being back before the playoffs not because I understand his injury but because he's proven to be tough, playing very well through injury. The question becomes can we ever really use Musgrave Wicks and Heath or would the team improve by trading them for positions of need like DT CB & JPJ

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CheeseEdWest2's picture

October 29, 2025 at 12:04 pm

Where does Musgrave fit in the big scheme? Is his blocking getting any better? Right now he seems like a WR making the glut worse. And then they let Sims go, which seems like more of a commitment to him.

Having too many weapons and competing to be the open man is a whale of a lot better than not enough weapons--we saw KC and other teams struggle through that.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 29, 2025 at 12:39 pm

Regarding the Morgan/Rhyan indecision: "...only for Rhyan to come back and take a far majority of snaps in the Pittsburgh game."

It wasn't a far majority...Morgan had 29 snaps and Rhyan 35 according to TGR who said both pass blocked well and but neither were solid in run blocking. So why did Morgan get benched? PFF (I know...PFF) rated Morgan higher than Rhyan.

Maybe they are highlighting Rhyan for a possible trade for a CB or DT? I doubt they re-sign him after all the money paid to the other Guard...and expect even an average G like Rhyan will command a lot of cap cash in free agency.

Or maybe Stenovich and Butkus can't decide who's better or are just trying to placate feelings...hope not, neither one is good.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2025 at 06:43 pm

This team does not get better this year by getting rid of Sean Rhyan.

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T7Steve's picture

October 29, 2025 at 01:08 pm

"The offensive line obviously has a part to play in all this."

What?

Is that just an intentional classic understatement? The O-line is really the only part. It all starts there or ends there. Period.

Till they can better run block the Packers will have to lean towards the passing game where their protection has been ok. As comments above have noted, the quick tempo and easy completions may open up the opportunities in the run game.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2025 at 02:40 pm

Nothing good happens on offense unless people get blocked.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2025 at 02:39 pm

Thanks for a look at the trees.

The forest says we're scoring 27 or more points every game except one. 27 is enough to win quite a few games in the NFL. We start slow, and that pisses me off because you practice all week and then the game starts and you get 3 and outs. Your opening drive should be your best drive. You studied the film, you saw the weak points, you practice the plays you want to run.....and then you go 3 and out. How?

On the other hand, this offense does seem to catch fire in the second half. That's not a bad thing.

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CanPackFan's picture

October 29, 2025 at 05:20 pm

One thing that wasn't taken into account was play calling - particularly in the first half. I hear LaFleur scripts out the first X number of plays. I think it's why they are so inconsistent in the beginning of games, usually the first series. I understand the scripting of the first series, but not all series thereafter in the first half. And voila, he makes adjustments at half time and they come out like gang busters in the second half. Maybe making quicker adjustments in the first half would help? GPG

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Major Snafu's picture

October 29, 2025 at 08:42 pm

First, the pack have the 3rd hardest schedule this year and with their current record they can afford a hiccup. I think Jacbs has a calf injury. He has lost his acceleration all of a sudden and why Wilson is getting more reps.
Lefleur play calling or more important the lack of ingenuity in these plays. We're not using golden and Watson to the best of our ability. Just unimaginative compared to the plays the chiefs run. It takes practice to have variety that works.

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Packers0808's picture

October 29, 2025 at 11:36 pm

In what is 7 games half way thru the season when there are 17 games? When I was in high school back in the 8 1/2 was 1/2 of 17. Did new math some how change that?

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porupack's picture

October 30, 2025 at 07:02 am

That is a great piece of analysis Kalani, and agree with your YBC YAC metrics. After reading through your piece twice, I think the one thing you hint at, and suggests why a decent (so far not great) OL isn't opening up more YBC, and why a proven consistent and dominant RB Jacobs isn't getting 100+ ypg is most likely this: the opposing defenses are stopping the run game first....daring JLove to win. I don't think the league is convinced that JLove can win in the air under pressure. So last week does serve notice....and JLove-MLF be able to do that week to week if they need to. The most sustainable strategy overall is not necessarily be balanced (though important), but to be able to equally win with a dominant passing attack or dominant running attack depending on the week to week opponent. That nimbleness will get a trophy.

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davekenya's picture

October 30, 2025 at 01:20 pm

Great article and it's extremely important to take a look at a team and analyze how it is functioning. Your article does a great job with this.

Big picture view of the article...(remember, I think it's great!)...for some reason I have an underlying feeling that the charts/stats -- success rate, efficiency, yards per xyz...are all 'after the fact' observations...all describe the RESULTS of something...not the thing itself. An even more powerful analytical article would look at the items listed -- for example:

'the Packers are averaging about 1.19 yards before contact, 22nd in the league (which averages around 1.4 YBC). This stat is a great indicator of how a team sets up the running game.' is describing something

'Offensive line performance and running back vision are the main contributors.' -- while kind of an answer, doesn't tell us as much as a deeper look. What is going on with offensive line performance -- are certain players or oline positions consistently late to blocks/getting shoved backwards/how long holding blocks/finishing blocks/in the wrong place -- so...what (or who) (or where on the line) exactly is contributing to the low yards before contact...and do certain run plays called have consistently lower production rates and why?
I appreciate all of this is a seriously deep dive...and likely somewhat unobtainable...but for me, it would serve to really get at the SOURCE of the problems -- where problems exist -- moreso than reporting the RESULTS of the problems (in the stats).

Again, great article...this just happens to be what came to my mind in reading it. I would not have thought about this w/o your article's wonderful prompts with the info and insight. Nice job.

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