It Hurts Now, But It's Not Over For The Packers Yet
By Carter Semb
"Why are we doing this if it doesn't hurt?"
When Matt LaFleur spoke with the media after yesterday's 34-26 loss to the Denver Broncos, he did so with a somber yet resilient tone. But to answer LaFleur's question, it does hurt. It hurt yesterday, it hurts today, and it'll hurt for the foreseeable future. And unfortunately, the hurt that happened in Denver goes far beyond the box score. The Green Bay Packers not only lost a game that they were once leading by nine points, but they also lost several key players to different injuries, including star pass rusher Micah Parsons. Parsons is expected to miss the rest of the season after tearing the ACL in his left knee. The Packers also lost Zach Tom, Evan Williams, and Christian Watson throughout the game.
After the game, the Packers received some good news regarding some injuries. Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported, "Zach Tom said there didn’t appear to be any structural damage in his injured right knee. Evan Williams said he’d have tests on his knee. He said it didn’t feel as bad as when he missed four games in college." He also reported that Christian Watson was flying home with the team despite leaving the stadium in an ambulance. Watson's dad went so far as to say that Watson was fine.
You haters aren’t going to get what you want tonight… #9 is fine!
— Tazim Wajid Wajed (@NFLHitman33) December 15, 2025
While the Packers did receive some encouraging news for Tom, Williams, and Watson, the loss of Parsons will loom large. The Packers mortgaged the future by trading for Parsons, and now the Packers' defense will be without their best player from here on out. "It's obviously tough. We all know what type of player he is and the impact he's had on our football team. And to lose somebody like that, it's tough," LaFleur said. "Nobody's going to feel sorry for us. We've got to find a way, and guys have got to rally around one another." It's tough, and it hurts, but the season isn't over.
Banged-Up, But Not Broken
Zach Tom was the first major domino to fall on Sunday. When he left the game with a knee injury, the offense immediately changed. Darian Kinnard replaced Tom at right tackle and didn't perform poorly, but he's not Zach Tom. The offense had been cruising up until that point. Jordan Love wasn't sacked at all in the first half, and they were moving the ball up and down the field. Once Tom went down, the offense struggled in all facets. The offense couldn't move the ball, in part due to the constant pressure. Love finished the day being pressured on 27 of his 46 dropbacks, which is a season high.
Fortunately for the Packers, it doesn't appear that Tom's injury will end his season. "Long term, I think we're going to be alright, but whether that's a week or two or three, I couldn't tell you," LaFleur said after the game. Whether Tom can play on Saturday in Chicago remains to be seen, but it'll be tough on a short week. The Packers will need Tom back as soon as possible, or it could be a rocky ride.
The offense also felt the loss of Christian Watson in a major way. After coming back from a torn ACL, he had been playing the best football of his career. The good news is that everything medically came back clean for Watson. There aren't any issues with his lungs, and he could play as soon as Saturday, according to Rob Demovsky. Anytime a player leaves in an ambulance, there's concern, but it sounded as if that was strictly precautionary.
Update on Christian Watson: No issue with his lungs, per source. He went to the hospital yesterday in Denver for a CT scan as a precaution. He does not have any long-term injury. His status for Saturday’s game against the Bears will be determined later in the week.
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) December 15, 2025
The Packers' offense desperately needs him in the lineup. The offense was unable to generate anything down the field after Watson left the game. His presence in the lineup forces opposing defenses to adjust their entire gameplan. The Packers don't have another wide receiver who can replicate what Watson does. Luckily, Matthew Golden, who led the team in receiving on Sunday, appears to be getting healthier, and Jayden Reed is back in the lineup. It's going to take everyone in that wide receiver room to pick up the slack if Watson is unable to go.
It was bad enough for Green Bay's defense to lose Micah Parsons, but losing Evan Williams right after was pouring salt on the wound. Fortunately for the Packers, it doesn't sound like Williams will be out for the rest of the season. Evan Williams reportedly said last night that "the knee injury he suffered yesterday doesn't appear to be long-term," according to Matt Schneidman. He also shared that Williams walked out of the locker room on his own and stated that this injury doesn't feel as bad as the Grade 3 tear he suffered in college.
Williams had been playing at an elite level this season, so losing him for any period of time will be felt. He and Xavier McKinney had become one of the best safety duos in the NFL. With Williams potentially missing a game or two, it wouldn't be surprising to see Javon Bullard slide back into Williams' role. The other option would be inserting someone like Zayne Anderson or Kitan Oladapo, who both saw time at the position last season. Either way, Williams' absence will impact some of what Hafley can do with the defense.
An emotional Rashan Gary on the loss of Micah Parsons, and what he told Parsons after the game.
“I told him to keep his head up, and we’re going to finish strong for him.” pic.twitter.com/xjGwvBOY6e
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) December 15, 2025
Parsons Can't Be Replaced
There's no way replace Micah Parsons. His ability to rush the passer from multiple spots and win quickly won't be replicated. According to PFF, Parsons has the third-most pressures (74) and sacks (12.5). He was winning on 23.1% of his pass rushes. Expecting someone to come in and fill that void is unrealistic. It's a void that will be felt immensely, but that doesn't mean the Packers can't find other ways to be effective defensively.
Jeff Hafley didn't have a Micah Parsons at his disposal in his first year calling the defense. He had a lot of familiar faces, like Xavier McKinney, Edgerrin Cooper, and Rashan Gary. But he also had Kenny Clark, Devonte Wyatt, T.J. Slaton, Eric Stokes, and Eric Wilson instead. Those players aren't the same caliber as Micah Parsons, yet Green Bay was still able to be a top-five defense in EPA per play and a top-seven defense against the run.
Green Bay's defense still has many of the same faces as it did in 2024, so there's reason to believe it can still be a competent defense. "It's going to be tough, but it's not going to be one individual. It's the collective, it's everybody, playing to the best of their ability," Matt LaFleur candidly said. "They're going to have to feed off one another, and rally around each other, and it's going to be opportunities for other guys to get in there. They're going to have to be impactful."
I may be sidelined, but I am not defeated. This injury is my greatest test—a moment God allowed to strengthen my testimony. I believe He walks with me through this storm and chose me for this fight because He knew my heart could carry it. I’m deeply grateful to the Packers… pic.twitter.com/KZy6TZKJfs
— Micah Parsons (@MicahhParsons11) December 15, 2025
Finding Solutions
Overcoming the loss of Parsons will take improvement at all three levels. The other pass rushers, Rashan Gary, Lukas Van Ness, Kingsley Enagbare, and Barryn Sorrell, are going to have to play better. There's a chance they'll get either Brenton Cox or Collin Oliver back as well. The interior of the defensive line will also need to perform better. Edgerrin Cooper and Quay Walker also have the potential and capability of becoming more impactful. This also requires improvement from the secondary. If the pass rush isn't as effective, the secondary will need to be stickier in coverage for longer periods of time. Simple? Of course not. Impossible? Never.
One way the defense can adjust is by generating more turnovers. In 2024, the Packers had 31 takeaways (17 interceptions, 14 fumble recoveries) and a +12 turnover differential. This season, the Packers only have 13 takeaways (7 interceptions, 6 fumble recoveries) and a +3 turnover differential. If the defense can find ways to turn the ball over more frequently, they will be able to cover up many of their deficiencies.
The pass rush isn't going to be the same without Parsons. Jeff Hafley will have to find other ways to generate pressure, whether that's by blitzing or with simulated pressures. He also won't have the same type of chess piece that he could line up anywhere. The Packers had a blitz rate of 19.6% before Sunday's game, which is one of the lowest rates in the NFL. That number will undoubtedly increase over the next few weeks.
The Packers can also help the defense by playing better in the other phases of the game, offense and special teams. The offense may need to sustain longer drives and control the time of possession to limit the time the defense is on the field. It'll also be important for the offense to get early leads to force opposing offenses into pass-happy situations. Special teams could do their part by forcing opposing offenses to start with a more disadvantageous field position. It's going to take everyone, up and down the roster, to overcome the loss of Parsons, but it can be done.
Looking Ahead, Not Backwards
There was a time on Sunday when everything for the Packers was looking excellent. The Packers had a 23-14 lead, possession of the football, and a chance to increase their lead to 31-14. At the same time, the Rams and the Lions were in a heated battle. A Packers win and a Lions loss would've given the Packers sole possession of the #1 seed in the NFC playoff picture and a clear path to a division title. The Packers would've had a bye in the first round of the playoffs, and then the rest of the playoffs would’ve had to go through Green Bay. But in less than 15 minutes, everything unraveled.
The Packers are now clinging to the #7 seed in the playoffs and have fallen behind Chicago in the NFC North. The playoffs, in general, are far from guaranteed. The outlook for the rest of the season is looking bleak, but it's not over. "It is what it is. Everybody faces adversity, everybody faces injuries, everybody has challenges," LaFleur stated. "That's out of your control. It's all about how you respond to it."
That's what the Packers will now have to do. They'll need to adjust to life without Micah Parsons. The offense without Zach Tom or Christian Watson will need to get creative with its game planning. The defense will need to find ways to overcome the loss of two key pieces. It won't be easy, but it's necessary, and there is still a lot of football left to be played.
The Packers still have control over their own destiny. A win on Saturday will put them right back at the top of the NFC North. Matt LaFleur tends to do his best work when his back is up against the wall, and now he has a chance to prove that again. Not to mention, a team with Jordan Love should never be counted out. Buckle up. It's going to be a wild ride these next three weeks. It might be bumpy, but it's not over yet.
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Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb.
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Comments (50)
splitpea1
December 15, 2025 at 03:43 pm
Yes, they now have to do this, that, and the other thing better to overcome this adversity. But just to play devil's advocate, why haven't they done this, that, or the other thing better on a consistent basis all season long?
You notice on the final two offensive possessions they were only able to generate one first down. Why? Because they have no short passing game to move the chains which was made that more difficult against a very good pass rush that the offensive struggled with--made worse by another Walker penalty. Give Vance Jospeph credit for bringing the pressure and banking on his defense to get it done. Face it: the Packers do not have a reliable crunch time offense, and to hope it miraculously appears now seems like wishful thinking.
Pass rush: We'll see indeed whether or not Hafley is head coach material if he is clever enough to formulate an adequate pass rush after this big injury. Aside from Parsons, the Packers don't have much of a pass rush at all. Gary, while he does make some plays in the running game and does apply pressure, hasn't had a sack in eons. Van Ness is hardly worth mentioning at this point, and we'll probably all be fossils before he turns into an impact player.
"The Packers can help...by playing better...special teams." LOL, how many years have we been waiting for this??!!
Yes, there is always hope. But it seems like we're asking a lot with the track record of what we've seen so far. Beat the Bears and win the others and I'll gladly eat my words.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 03:59 pm
I agree this will showcase Hafley’s value, but is his defense really that different from his predecessors? We’ll see. I like him, but has he truly been dominant? No. Not having Parsons and Wyatt isn’t an excuse, as there’s still plenty of quality talent on this defense.
I think LVN deserves more credit. He posted 16 QB pressures in just 5 games, and at that pace over 17 games, he would have ranked in the top 20 for the year. Will that match Parsons’ impact? Of course not, but with help from others and some creative blitzing, it has potential.
coolhand
December 15, 2025 at 05:44 pm
After Parsons got hurt Hafley had Cooper blitz up the middle for a sack. Just what we needed, and then never called another blitz for the rest of the game. I don't get it. No corner blitz no fake blitz looks, nothing, just plain vanilla and soft zone. He had better be aggressive against the Bears on Saturday. Williams got hit and hurt his knee and could be less mobile than before.
We will see!
KenEllis
December 15, 2025 at 06:15 pm
Of course, as the author asserts "It's Not Over For The Packers Yet", but it will be soon even if the Pack makes the playoffs.
This franchise has not won 2 playoff games in a single season for a decade now and that was unlikely to change even if Parsons had not suffered his devastating ACL injury.
Now we are supposed to pretend Gary and LVN are going to save the pass rush? Really? Then why did Gute ship two 1st round picks to Dallas for Micah? He knew, they knew, and we know Gary & LVN are not it as edge rushers.
And suggesting the Special Teams are gonna get better, really? I get selling hope but do you really think Packer fans are that big of rubes to have faith in the Special Teams?
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 03:45 pm
All I can say is, thank God most of the fans on this site don’t play, because we’d probably lose the next three games and miss the playoffs. By reading many posts on here, you’d think we don’t have any other decent players on this team. Not that it matters, since our comments won’t mean a thing come game time. Let's go, next man up!
Since'75
December 15, 2025 at 04:25 pm
First of all...Nags...you are one handsome son of a ....
***********
So Today...i heard this 'Bear fan' tell someone else that the Bears were going to the Super Bowl!!
He didn't look like much, so i said, can i ask you one Bear question.
He said sure.
I asked...who is the Bears QB?
He thought a bit and said...."the same one as last year".
Lol...i just smiled and walked away...doofus.
Since'75
December 16, 2025 at 06:11 am
1.5....lol
Since'75
December 15, 2025 at 04:36 pm
Murf7777 is right.
I've heard a lot of doom and gloom about the Packers last night and today.
Lets ponder something......
2024 season, WITHOUT Parsons.
The Packers defense ranked 6th. Not too shabby, right?
The scoring defense gave up 19.9 PPG. I'll take that all day long!! Been awhile before that since the defense was under 20 PPG.
The 2024 Packer team also had a +122 point differential.
i mean 🤷♂️
Do we lose something without Parsons, of course we do.
Should we go sit in the corner and cry about it?
Should we cry and whine about the refs?
Packer Nation is better than that....or so i thought.
Oppy
December 16, 2025 at 02:59 am
The potential loss of Watson is the biggest issue. Tom as well. Offense is my concern, not the loss of Parsons, even though his impact is immense.
While Parsons is the best player on the field in nearly every contest, the defense can operate without him. I have had concerns about the secondary since last year, but it is what it is at this point, and Hafley has proven to be able to operate effectively with the pieces on hand.
After the loss of Kraft, this offense stumbled for nearly a month before starting to get it back together with the re-emergence of Watson. Kraft affected both the passing game, and his loss really affected the run blocking as well, but the use of heavy sets (6th OL as eligible receiver) and Watson's return to take the top off the defense really set us back on the path on offense.
If Watson is out, the ripple on offense will be tough to recover from. Hopefully, Golden can take a step forward and be used on those deep routes, and reed's return will help fill in the gaps. We need the Wicks to step up too, and Doubs to be Doubs. Wilson and Brooks, and hopefully Lloyd, to help support a banged up Jacobs.
Offense really needs to find a way to maintain their level of play, especially with the OL woes, too.
murf7777
December 16, 2025 at 06:44 am
Totally agree about Watson, I’m one of his biggest fans after watching him play as a rookie. That said, don’t underestimate the value Reed brings to this offense. Also, I know many don’t agree with me, but I think Musgrave is going to have a say in things yet this year. He’s a mismatch for a Defense.
Oppy
December 16, 2025 at 09:56 am
The issue with Musgrave is he is not a plus blocker. Our OL is not playing great right now for a variety of reasons, and if you're going to take a WR or a RB off the field to add a TE, you really need him to provide some blocking. A TE that can't block effectively becomes a defacto WR, and we have more proven WRs on the roster.
I think on paper Musgrave can be a matchup problem due to his size / speed ratio, but what we've seen of him in live action thus far in his career is inconsistent hands and a stride that seems to lend itself to getting tangled up and hitting the dirt.
Regardless, we will need him, as all others on offense, to step up.
jannesbjornson
December 16, 2025 at 11:10 am
He has had three years to build up his upper body. His leg drive is without urgency. See if they can sneak him out from the inline position? If Whyle is out, the TE packages suffer. This is a game Love hits the open WRs with Musgrave in one of the slots.
Celise...
December 16, 2025 at 10:36 am
Musgrave will only be a help if he can get strong enough to carry the "rock" once he catches it. It appears to be to heavy for him because he falls down after catching it. Can't seem to balance himself with the extra weight........
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 04:51 pm
Hey Hey
I’m no hater.
No one hates C Watson.
I’m his biggest fan .
Pats game right in front of jet sweep
Cowboys game flip in front of me
Cardinals game beating Bubba Baker in front of me
Chiefs game two td one in front of me
Bears td south end in front of me. The pass was behind him great slow down and catch.
The list goes on and on.
He was hurt 49ers playoff game. No eagles game .
He is the reason we will go deep into the playoffs..
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 06:25 pm
Thumbs down I would expect from someone.
Vikings are fearful of Watson when he’s healthy.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 05:09 pm
I just watched a breakdown of our offensive plays using all 22 from a variety of angles. A few thoughts come to mind. For those who think the bomb to Watson in the 3rd Quarter was a mistake, you should watch this in all 22 and I think you will come away with a whole different perspective. First off, unfortunately Love got rushed and couldn’t get his full amount of energy into the ball. Watson actually had one or close to two steps on Surtain in single coverage. If that pass was longer it was a 90+ yard TD and would go down as one of the better plays from GB in a very long time. We all would’ve been heralding the play. In addition, even though the pass was short Surtain still had to make an unbelievable play to intercept it.
The other play was the fault of Love to Wicks. Wicks is wide open on a long throw that was put behind him which ended up in an interception. If Love leads him on that play it would’ve been Wicks against only one defender and if that defender misses him it’s a very long TD. Love did have a couple of really good throws and catches to Doubs and Golden while under pressure against single coverage where he anticipated the coverage and route.
Their defense blitzed often in the 2nd half and it was very effective against our line without Tom, but we attacked their defense in a way that we probably come away with a victory if those two passes are completed. We exposed their weakness and In the game of football it many times come down to just a few plays and in this case it did.
PearlyBakerBest
December 15, 2025 at 06:07 pm
Other posters have mentioned that the last several games they have noticed receivers having to slow down. I agree. The problem with the Watson injury play from last night is Love waited too long to throw the ball. This has also been the problem the last few weeks. He needs to get that thing out at least a half, if not a full second sooner. Throw that fucker and let Watson accelerate to catch up to it.
PearlyBakerBest
December 16, 2025 at 08:56 am
Im not ragging on Murf. I agree it's a great post. After rewatching the All 22 of this play Love indeed did not have much time to plant and throw after the play action and probably would have gotten hurt had he really stepped into it. But I still stand by Love needing to throw it sooner on the long balls. Even the slower receivers are too fast to hold it as long as he does before he lets it go.
dobber
December 16, 2025 at 09:01 am
I actually think he's throwing to a spot and allowing his pass-catchers to adjust to it before the DBs can. It didn't work on Surtain on that one play on Sunday, but he's an elite CB.
I'm hoping they rediscover the 15-yard crossers against the Bears on Saturday. Wicks and Reed have made hay on those in the past.
PearlyBakerBest
December 17, 2025 at 06:36 am
I agree on throwing to a spot. But even on the Surtain play if that ball can come out even a half second sooner Watson had the step and it's probably a TD. Hoping you're right about the crossers against Hicag. Time for the Offense to carry the load.
LeotisHarris
December 15, 2025 at 06:16 pm
Thanks for this post. murf. It's helpful to have your perspective.
Starrbrite
December 15, 2025 at 08:31 pm
Yes Murf—an excellent post.
Celise...
December 16, 2025 at 10:42 am
i feel like the problem with love is that he had grown so used to throwing to Doubs and the timing of those routes that he's struggling to get the timing of a faster receiver, (watson) so he tends to under throw, especially on the longer passes where the distance becomes greater. as love gets timing with watson down better my guess is he will tend to lead Doubs to much
harleycops
December 15, 2025 at 05:25 pm
Nix completed 11 of 13 passes for 183 yards and three touchdowns when targeting Nixon and Valentine. Not ideal, to say the least. That summarizes pretty much the story of the Denver game beyond the serious injuries to key players. Nixon gets an INT last week and is the hero. Yesterday, Nixon blows most of the coverages and Broncos fly by unimpeded. These 2 CBs are so inept and until we get some legitimate upgrades, we're going to keep seeing worthless coverages and WR TDs. That's not defense. GB should've won that game, but these jerks keep messing up!
Celise...
December 16, 2025 at 10:45 am
ok, there not "jerks", they're just not that talented. i think the defensive backs coaches could do a better job of positioning them and telling them to pay attention more to the receivers and less staring at the quarterback
GBPfaninMO
December 15, 2025 at 05:36 pm
I didn't understand Hafleys game plan, give up everything underneath & can't stop the explosive plays the Broncos receivers were usually wide open & I'm pretty sure it helps when the secondary can catch a football.If GB doesn't upgrade the secondary in the off-season it will be more of the same.
Alberta_Packer
December 15, 2025 at 05:38 pm
I very much enjoy the GBP. Conversely, I have become less enamored with the NFL game. Not only because of the over-commercialization of the sport. But also due to the high team attrition rates from injuries. For me the race to the SB has become more of a health watch - than a sport focusing on teamwork, strategy and physical skill.
Prior to the Denver game the Packers were on track as a serious SB contender. After the game – they will now be chasing the top challengers due to the magnitude of their injuries. Injuries that they will not be able to fully replace this schedule.
Yes the Packers will attempt to regroup and push through the remainder of the schedule. However they are now much closer to losing the NFC North title - and a first-round playoff game - than they were 1 day ago. So while I'm still hoping for the best - I am (realistically) preparing for the worst.
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 06:20 pm
Omg.
Then prepare for the worst and go skiing at Banff national park in Canada.
Drink hot coco and sit by the fireplace and watch ice rod truckers.
Alberta_Packer
December 15, 2025 at 08:21 pm
You do propose a fine recipe Stb. Living in Calgary - we are fortunate to live within a short distance of some of the best ski resorts in the world. Even prior to the Denver game - we were able to enjoy a hot coco (and some other seasonal beverages) - at fireside - at some of these resorts. So I believe that we are reasonably prepared to deal with any disappointment (or not) - that could befall the Packers this season.
EricTorkelson
December 15, 2025 at 08:26 pm
Boom... snap the ball, Alberta ate your lunch man
Snap the ball
December 16, 2025 at 01:10 am
Another quitter fan…l
90 percent of the population leaves within 200nm of the border of the USA. I wonder why
Alberta_Packer
December 16, 2025 at 02:31 am
So fact check. 90% of the population -- does not live 200 nanometrs within the border of the USA
Oppy
December 16, 2025 at 03:04 am
Because it's hard to live in pristine wilderness when it's -40 degrees (c or f, take your pick) for a solid month straight each winter?
Celise...
December 16, 2025 at 10:49 am
i've been watching these games for over 50 years and can tell you it's almost always the heathiest teams at the end of the season that advance to the superbowl. this is a violent sport and as such, injuries have been and always will be one of the biggest determining factors come playoff time
GBPfaninMO
December 15, 2025 at 05:44 pm
There's playing with an edge & then there's playing stupid, the personal fouls are starting to pile up you don't double team a receiver pick him up & slam him this isn't the WWE.
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 06:22 pm
Greenlaw is one of the dirtiest players in the league
Hit Aaron jones in the back after a run was over for no reason. No call
Sean Payton learned from dirty Bill Parcells
Sean Payton team always dirty …
Starrbrite
December 15, 2025 at 08:43 pm
Payton—Mr “Bounty Hunter.” But it’s all forgotten, he did say he was sorry…
And now he can coach for the supremely rich broncos and their minority owner; former Secretary of State- Condoleezza Rice.
Nothing like having a Politician/Owner in your private team box.
I wonder if Goodell knows—nah! Influence means nothing…
I spit on the Broncos
Snap the ball
December 16, 2025 at 01:28 am
Broncos. 2016. 9-7
2017 5-11
2018. 6-10
2019 7-9
2020. 5-11
2021. 7-10
2022. 5-12
2023. 8-9
2024 10-7
2025. 12-2
Last 10 years
Jags come in and beat them this next week
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 06:29 pm
You could see what type of refs we had. Old white dudes that should be officiating high school games in Utah.
I hate to say it there’s lefty’s refs and righty refs
Yesterday lefty refs in lefty Colorado….
EricTorkelson
December 15, 2025 at 08:23 pm
Making lefty calls against righty Brown County Packers ?
Snap the ball
December 16, 2025 at 01:33 am
I guess like the back up refs in Seattle game remember that call.
Officials seem off this year for some reason. Other than I think the guy name Ron Tolbert crew usually does well.
Oppy
December 16, 2025 at 03:06 am
Hey, look everyone, we've got another "idiot who drags politics into sports" award front runner.
EricTorkelson
December 15, 2025 at 06:25 pm
I have some questions about MLF and Packer practices ? Why do the Packers in most cases have have more players on injury reports than most or every team they play against many times twice as many ? Why are Packer players hitting the ground on a play and then have trouble getting up ? Brooks, Hobbs, McKinney, Watson last night? Isnt hitting the ground part of football why does that seem so foreign and so painful to the Packers ? Watson acted like he got ran over by a Semi and now I here he might play next week ? How about Denver Surtain DB of the Broncos got knee violently in the head and then hit hard in the head/ribs same play was helped to the sidelines and then reentered a couple plays later ? Are the Packers a soft team are they the only team following the rules and not hitting at all in practices are they getting pampered up there in title town ? No you say... ( seven injuries last night or more none for Denver) ? well then why cant they play an injury free game like one half of the teams they compete against ? I have smelled an injury/paranoia atmosphere up there in title town for some time now and hundreds of soft tissue injuries ago ( tell me Im wrong )
Snap the ball
December 15, 2025 at 06:37 pm
Probably Watson running 17 mph jumping and hitting the ground might not feel well is my guess.
And greeting air knock out.
I seen Watson play for years he isn’t a cry baby .
The only problem I have is MLF telling everyone everyone is hurt.
Other teams say the minimum or not much at all.
Reports ask MLF needs to say I don’t have the report. Next question.
Hobbs been hurt all year. Tuff to come back from that
Starrbrite
December 15, 2025 at 08:45 pm
An excellent question Eric T.
Celise...
December 16, 2025 at 10:55 am
i've been saying for the last 5 years that our team is weak. our offensive line can never seem to get a good push when we only need a yard and our defensive line can never seem to stop the opposing team from their offensive line. soft tissue means weak muscles imo
iamiz
December 16, 2025 at 06:18 am
Well here's one way the defense can force more turnovers: catch the interceptions thrown into your hands.
It drives me crazy how much people are glazing Nix, but dude threw 5 turnovers-worthy balls. Can you imagine the narrative if he had actually caught those errant passes?
NickPerry
December 16, 2025 at 07:08 am
"Overcoming the loss of Parsons will take improvement at all three levels. The other pass rushers, Rashan Gary, Lukas Van Ness, Kingsley Enagbare, and Barryn Sorrell, are going to have to play better. There's a chance they'll get either Brenton Cox or Collin Oliver back as well."
Cox especially should be given time on the field. We already know what LVN brings which is next to nothing. Playing him more isn't going to change the fact he's a BUST! He was a bust last season, the year before, and he's no peach this year either.
Cox was given an opportunity last season and he delivered. Maybe Oliver will turn out to be a secret weapon. Tearing off the edge terrorizing QB's. Give these guys playing time over the regulars who don't produce on a regular basis. Gary hasn't had a sack in 7 games. What a putz!
Cheesey51
December 16, 2025 at 07:42 am
NagsNags thanks for talking us off the ledge sort of speak
We will live through this loss
Leatherhead
December 16, 2025 at 11:07 am
I've been doing a little digging over the second cup of coffee, and I have good news.
We lost a lot of guys to injury at Denver, but it looks like they'll be back by the end of the season, except for Parsons. And Parsons is our premiere pass rusher, and his absence will be missed.
But here's the good news: We don't exactly have to line up against Manning or Brady these next three weeks. The Bears are probably the biggest passing threat, and they'd prefer to keep it on the ground.
The Ravens are 32nd in the league in passing attempts. They would prefer to keep it on the ground.
And the Vikings...in addition to leading the league in turnovers, they're 28th in yards and yards/attempt passing.
Although he's still a good defender against the run, Parson's presence is felt in the passing game, and none of these guys we're facing are real good throwing teams to begin with. And of course, any of these teams can be beaten if we put 30 points on the board and don't turn it over.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, our offensive line is going to have a backup at Center, a rookie with 4 starts at RG, a backup at RT, and a backup at TE. This is not what you'd hope for in a game where you're going to need to score 30. But it's what we've got. Tom is supposed to return at some point, and that'll not only improve the RT spot but he'll also help Belton be a better player at RG.
We can survive this. Winning against Chicago would be a really big win.