Other than the need to use a profanity, Drealyn, I don't know what your comment means. Do you support one or both of the firings, have no opinion, or oppose one or both of the firings? Do you think the firings are just camouflage to distract attention - like throwing a bone to the mob?

I wrote a few weeks ago that I feel it is very difficult to evaluate position coaches. All one can do is see what kind of talent is provided (without knowing if the prospects like to party and/or eat, or in general are coachable, and the results. From that, Whitt seems excellent.

This point has been addressed many previous times, so with apologies for redundancy: Playing a position is not a prerequisite for coaching that position. Slot WRs are different from outside WRs, yet there usually aren't separate WR coaches. Centers, guards, and OTs have different responsibilities, yet there is usually only one offensive line coach and one assistant.

The abilty to teach is much more important, along with the intelligence to mesh with the overall staff and team concept.

To piggyback on WKU, Edgar Bennett was WR coach when both Cobb and Nelson had monster years in 2014. Seems like that former RB knew what he was doing.

I doubt he has one season left to prove anything. Each season is different.

Isn't the QB and WR coaches the same person. I can't keep track of it anymore which kind of proves that the coaching structure is far too complicated.

JImmy Johnson said it all when asked about his great Miami teams and why they were so dominant. HIs answer " You can't coach speed. You have to acquire speed guys" Speed kills.

His linebackers back then were faster than fast. Couldn't run or pass against his teams.

My take is Mike doesn't get it. This is a team that lacks speed all over the place and in key areas line outside linebacker and Tight End, Receiver. If they don't change that, all the coaching changes in the world ain't gonna help.

Unfortunately for Ted, the speed guys are all in the top 20 of the draft for the most part.

Had to laugh. Wife is diehard packer fan. She has a packer bathroom that you could not hang one more thing on the walls. If the Packer Pro shop ever ran out of socks, they could call her.

So I sit there watching the game and mention, ya know " Rogers runs like he has a stick up his butt'. He waddles.

She doesn't think that's funny but really a runner he ain't.

I watched the press conference and liked his candidness. I thought several of MMs comments were subtle jabs at TT for not getting the personnel to get the job done. Maybe they were more like challenges than jabs. The big man down the seam was one and the reference to move Matthews back to OLB. The message was "we need Clay to play his natural position but I got to cover for the lack of inside talent". I think the 2015 Packers spent the season covering roster gaps that other teams exploited.

Of course speed isn't the problem. Lackadaisical route running and the lack of concentration was the problem.

I don't know which team had the most drops or which players had the most drops, but if I had to guess -- my guess would be the Packers being in the Top 10 and more than 2 players being in the Top 10. It's been a forgettable season for many Offensive players.

I really do think firing Fontenot is more of a scapegoat type of move. I would say that the problems at the TE position are more on personnel then the coaching.

That being said, maybe he was part of the problem. Not helping to develop Rodgers more, not helping to develop young players like Backman.

Gash is interesting to me. I wonder how much he had to do with what happened in the middle of the season when Lacy got benched, and Harris got let go...

Totally agree on all fronts. The TE coach is a grey one because Fontenot was working with table scraps.

Your points about the assistants on the offense is spot on. McCarthy has created a level of middle managers that are all trying to contribute but confusion may be the outcome. He now has a problem of downsizing that may create division on this team. Unfortunately, the cream (Philbin and McAdoo) has been skimmed off and we are holding onto guys that nobody wants.

I did listen to Bennett's OC press conference and was disappointed. SOOO over his head seems to fit.

TC and EB are going to be a big issue. EB has been 'groomed' and who's going to take the heat if you fire him. Demoting him probably isn't an option.

TC, man, you pretty much eliminated the position of OC all together by making him assistant HC. Totally messed the whole organizational structure with that one. Not sure there is a gracefully exit plan there. My guess is they stick with both guys as is. Seems like it will be more appealing to go down with the ship than admit the ideas was bad from the get go. Too bad, both coaches are good if you hadn't promoted EB out of his sphere of expertise. TC isn't a bad OC either but you lost by warping his job completely.

Best option if I'm making the call, EB becomes RB coach and TC goes to OC If they won't take the changes, fire them both and hire Philbin as OC and then go get a a RB coach.

As for a receivers coach. I'd see if Donald Driver was interested. Let AVP focus on the QBs entirely. He's got a hall of famer to get back in the groove and a talented 2nd year guy to bring along.

He's in Philly coaching OL

Philbins been hired as have most of the good Asst. Coaches.