Packers Pass Rush Could Become an X-Factor Down the Stretch

A late blooming of the pass rush would do wonders for the Packers heading toward the playoffs

I can hear those keyboards clacking already, and trust me, I'm well aware that the Green Bay Packers pass rush has not lived up to expectations for 2024. There are moments when I wish I would wake up, and somehow Reggie White's career arrived 30 years later and number 92 is lining up at defensive end for today's Packers. Even his eight-sack season in 1994 would be acceptable given that the Packers' sack leader today is Rashan Gary with only 5.5. Gary is currently tied for 43rd in the league for total sacks. Which is not ideal for a player who was expected to reach career highs this season. With four games left though, Gary still has a chance to accomplish this, and the Packers could greatly benefit from him and the rest of the pass rush getting hot down the stretch. 

With four games left in the 2024 regular season, you could say we're heading into the fourth quarter of the season. The Packers are 9-4 and currently have a 97% chance of making the playoffs. Life is pretty good, right? Considering at this time last year they were 6-7 with a 47% chance of a playoff berth, and they still made it, I'd say they're in pretty good shape for 2024. But if there's one thing many would say the Packers need to improve on if they want to contend, it's the pass rush. The Packers' defense has 33 sacks total this season which is good for being tied for 13th in the league with the Cleveland Browns. Though we're in the top half, these numbers are a bit disappointing considering the talent level of the players we have trying to get to the QB and the quality of the offensive lines that have stood in their way. 

The Packers' pass rush has had its share of big sack games this year, taking down the Quarterback four or more times in three games this season, one of those games putting up eight, but after those big games, they always follow it up with only 1 or 2. So, the sack stats are inconsistent. The QB pressures however have been there as they average 8.5 per game this season, they just have not translated to sacks. Especially for Rashan Gary who accounts for 20% of the team's QB pressures total, himself. Lukas Van Ness who after the Packers traded away Preston Smith, has been expected to ramp up his play, which he has a little bit, collecting two sacks in the last three games, but it's just not been enough. It's begun to feel like the Packers can do everything but actually get to the QB, and it's been very frustrating, to say the least. 

Heading into the final stretch, though, the Packers have an opportunity to turn that luck around. 

Getting the Pass Rush Rolling

Heading into week 15, the Packers may have a pretty favorable match-up to get their pass rushers back on track. Geno Smith has been sacked 40 times this season. For some perspective, the Packers have only been sacked 16 times. So, the Seahawks' offensive line has not been very good at keeping Geno Smith upright this year as they rank 29th in OL pass-blocking efficiency.  It's worth noting that Smith was not sacked last week against Arizona, but in the previous four games, he was sacked 19 times. That's 4-5 sacks per game. For a team that's currently averaging only about 2-3 sacks per game, the Packers will be hoping to kick off this final stretch of games on a high note getting after Geno Smith. 

Over the past two weeks, the Packers have generated 35 QB pressures. That's over 30% of their season total just in the last two games. Quay Walker has gotten in on the action, and Kenny Clark who's been quiet this season on the sacks stat sheet has made some noise up the middle, which is fitting considering his career history of heating up when the temps start to drop. Hopefully, the Packers will also have Edgerrin Cooper back who's missed the last few games after he was just starting to make his presence known. With the status of the Packers' secondary up in the air for the coming weeks, a stifling pass rush would be just what the doctor ordered.

But how do we do it? It's not always going to be enough to just rely on the front four to beat their man and get to the QB. Secondary blitzes may leave receivers wide-open and considering how banged up the Packers' secondary currently is, that's not always going to work out. I think the Packers' pass rush down the stretch is going to rely heavily on the work of Quay Walker and Edgerrin Cooper.

Against the Lions, we saw the one sack of the game for the Packers come off a stunt between Quay Walker and Rashan Gary. Walker came from his middle linebacker position to the left side to draw the right guard and sort of eat up the right tackle as well while Rashan Gary stunted to the inside right around those two linemen to get the sack on Jared Goff. We've also seen a lot of stunts performed by Edgerrin Cooper when he's been on the field. A favorite of mine came against the Rams in week 5 when he lined up almost right over the center standing up, basically showing he was coming on a blitz up the middle. But that's not where he went when the ball was snapped. Instead, Kenny Clark and Lukas Van Ness kind of crashed the inside from their DT and DE positions drawing their blockers inward. Cooper then stunted around them to the left and due to the the penetration Lukas Van Ness was able to create inside, Matthew Stafford was flushed out right into the waiting arms of Edgerrin Cooper. 

If the Packers think a standard four-man rush is going to improve their sack stats, we all know they're sorely mistaken. Throwing in a few stunts and blitzes with their athletic linebackers, however, can help get them home a bit more to put the QB on his back. Hopefully, we see a lot more of that in the coming games, and the Packers head into the playoffs with their pass rush scorching. 

 

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 11, 2024 at 02:43 pm

I just mentioned on an earlier article how high most of us were this off-season about the depth and potential of the front 4 and how that hasn't panned out. I think keeping a 3-4 DT coach to teach a 4-3 system was a mistake. I don't think the Edge guys techniques change all that much but going from a two gap to a one gap, penetrating system is a big adjustment for the DTs and they would have been better served going with a veteran 4-3 coach there.

Wyatt's play has been on the uptick the last couple games and Clark looks like the bye might've helped his toe after a lackluster game against the Bears. Brooks is the puzzling one, after being an impact player in 4 or 5 games last year he's really only been noticeable in 1 or 2 this year. His numbers aren't that far off from last year though and one big game could have him matching last year's numbers on a per play basis.

Another thing that might help is being more selective about Slaton being on the field in middle down and distance situations. They're basically rushing with 3 instead of 4 when he's on the field on passing plays. More push up the middle can only help the Edge rushers.

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Coldworld's picture

December 11, 2024 at 04:15 pm

Clark is over his toe seemingly and Wyatt is further removed from his ankle, so there is some basis for believing we will see more from them. We really need to see someone other than Gary impose themselves from the DE group and one of those two to break out and open opportunities for others as a result. Get both groups going and it’s a different defense altogether. It’s possible but as yet still requires some big leaps to approach reality. Seattle might not be a bad opportunity to kick it off though.

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 11, 2024 at 06:50 pm

LVN has two sacks in the last three games. He's raised his PFF pass rush grade to 66.5, 66th among Edge rushers. Not great but it would be easier to live with if Gary was having a 10+ sack season. Surprisingly Moseby has a 57 pass rush grade but a 78.5 run D grade. Getting more interior rush should help the Edge guys as well.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:43 am

Mosby has been an ILB. To be honest I see him more as a cover backer in the Fackrell mode. He’s not as sudden, but more so than the big guys, but he can drop into coverage and he can tackle ways more normally associated with an ILB.

Van Ness has improved, but it’s not to the critical
Point yet, individually or to unlock others. Gary is quietly performing, but also not quite effective enough to wreak destruction alone. The same is true of Clark recently, and perhaps Wyatt now. We are pushing the bubble more noticeably, but no one is doing so quite as acutely as is required to burst it asunder.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:13 am

I would like to see more Mosby in the rotations. When he's on the field he shows playmaking ability and has a varied skill set. He has LBs awareness and is a good tackler. Quickness and speed to offset his size limitations...yet he has decent size for a 4-3 DE...on par with both Enagbare and Cox.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:46 am

He’s more agile than either. He moves more like A LB. I don’t think he has the same strength or power.

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stockholder's picture

December 11, 2024 at 05:40 pm

If you compare the super-Bowl champs of #31.
You'll see the problems of this year's 4-3-4.
At De - White and Sean Jones.
Gary and VanEss don't come close.

At DT- . the gravedigger and Dotson.
Dotson could Rush while Gabe stood ground.

I was against drafting Wyatt.
He's to light on his feet.
He must have fast LBs behind him.

And Clark is equal to Santana.
But Clark gets double teamed.
Meaning the Des are wrong if your
Dts can't get through

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TKWorldWide's picture

December 11, 2024 at 08:09 pm

I notice you always write 4-3-4, as if 4-3 could be legally followed by a different number of DB’s. It can’t.

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 11, 2024 at 11:10 pm

I like to imagine Stockholder's computer as an abattoir where punctuation goes to be slaughtered. Every morning when I see his name I wonder what's getting the ax that day.

I'd like to see how a team would pay White, Jones, Dotson and Brown under today's cap.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 12, 2024 at 03:13 am

A.I.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:48 am

It goes to 11.

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Mister Chievous's picture

December 11, 2024 at 11:12 pm

so with all the tape you watched on Wyatt in college, and applying your professional acumen, you determined Wyatt wasn't any good? got it.

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TKWorldWide's picture

December 12, 2024 at 06:19 am

There used to be a guy on here who’d write “in my professional opinion”, so I asked him if he worked in the NFL. He said “no”, but still thought he had a “professional opinion” on things.
He kept using that expression, even after I told him it did not mean what he thought it meant.
“No more ‘professional opinion’, and I mean it!”
“Anybody want a peanut?”

RIP, Andre!

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:49 am

Winner!

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stockholder's picture

December 12, 2024 at 06:50 am

Yes - I had that argument with bird dog.
Thought Travis Jones was the better pick for the Packers.
And the more durable player.
And at that time they had a 3-4 front.

Think about that- Slayton wouldn't be here.
And Wyatt wouldn't be on the trainer's table.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 12, 2024 at 03:10 am

Naturally, I was for drafting Wyatt and had him at the #29 spot on our mocks. He is just what you need for the
4-3. He has to be used how Flores deploys his guys. Quickness is his game and he should study Sapp. Santana Dotson was taller by a couple inches, but played at 280 Lbs. He was the penetrating tackle. Gilbert equals
T. Sweat. Wyatt can play DE in heavy run sets. Five sacks last season with limited time on the field. Just getting his stride back. Slaton doesn't play low enough. Kenny Clark looked good the last couple of weeks. Is Hafley holding back on the slot and safety blitzes, or LaFleur? Zayne Anderson was a LB/SS at BYU. He can come from the middle. Better open it up, because Seattle will be coming to play Sunday Night.

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stockholder's picture

December 12, 2024 at 06:56 am

Wyatt is too slow for DE.
Especially in a 4 front.
His lack of height puts him inside.
He also has never been double teamed
on a every play basis.
He'll never be as good as Clark.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:37 am

A 4.77, Combine 40 time @ 320 Lbs is not Slow. He is 6-3, the same as Clark who probably gets moved in the off-season if his performance remains flat on the Money Curve.

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T7Steve's picture

December 11, 2024 at 02:51 pm

Amen! The backfield will look great with a little gas up the middle. The way the LBs have been covering it may be their best bet to get to it before the ball is thrown.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 12, 2024 at 03:12 am

When the safeties are all healthy, Hafley will flood the zone and McDuffie will be on the sidelines. It would help if Cooper shows up.

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ricky's picture

December 11, 2024 at 03:11 pm

Since the middle of the field is where a lot of passes are being completed, that means the QB doesn't have to hold onto the ball very long. Therefore, the DL has only two to three seconds to create pressure or get a sack. Until the QB is forced to hold the ball a little longer, because the short pass is not available and he has to wait for the play to develop for a longer throw, sacks will probably continue to be elusive.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:37 am

If they can't cover the middle, they need to disrupt the routes at the LOS to kill the timing and give the rush time to get home.

Seattle surrenders more sacks than most teams, and they'll turn the ball over if you can limit the run game.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:14 am

Interesting comparative: Love has been pressured on 31.7 percent of his dropbacks this season, but has only been sacked 11 times.

Geno Smith has been pressured on 38.6 percent of dropbacks brought down 40 times this season and is the most pressured QB in the league.

This would seem to suggest how important Love’s comparative mobility and pocket awareness is (and thus explain some of his struggles when that was diminished) while showing that he keeps make his OL look better. However, it also reflects the fact that Seattle generally goes for longer developing plays, or has done so far. The perimeter will likely be more pressured this week, unless the last 2 Packer games result in a dramatic change in approach from Seattle.

It’s worth noting that changes to the Seattle OL have recently much improved it. They gave up no sacks versus AZ (who have more than we do so far this season) and their run blocking was much improved as well after throwing in their 6th round pick, Sataoa Laumea, at G, presumably among other things. He’s exceeded even apparent team expectations in 2 starts and solidified their run and pass blocking significantly inside. Small sample, of course. Their RB was the ground player of the week last week, a significant change for them.

Seattle are coming off 4 straight wins. They are better than they were earlier. They have us and Minnesota left to play and they really need to win to solidify their playoff chances. They will be motivated for this. This game is set up to be a tough one in a tough place to play with a motivated opponent.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:19 am

Geno Smith is plenty mobile

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:48 am

He is once he gets going, but he’s not proved as adept at avoidance as Love at any time in his career, which those stats seem to reinforce.

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coolhand's picture

December 12, 2024 at 11:52 am

But he fumbles a lot. & on the year so far from what I have seen. Throws picks as well.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 12:09 pm

His OL, at least until recently, was a sieve to be fair. He’s not the most instinctive in the pocket though, which just magnified that,

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GregC's picture

December 12, 2024 at 12:30 pm

Seattle's best WR plays in the slot, and he's very good, so I expect them to be able to attack the middle of the field. I think they will throw it to whoever has the most favorable matchup on any given play.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 01:22 pm

He has 900 odd yards, mostly from the slot, but the two perimeter guys, Metcalf and Lockett have more combined. They actually use the sidelines a lot.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:39 am

Agree, yet the LBs are not doing this. They read pass then turn and run to their zone assignments. This also makes them more vulnerable to a dump off or a screen as they are up field, away from the ball. Compounding the weak middle zone D is McDuffie, a good run defender and tackler is a weakness in coverage...to a lesser extent, so is Wilson.

If Alexander finally sees the field, playing him and Valentine in press will help on the perimeter...and Cooper and Williams back will aid the soft middle...encouraging Hafley to get back to his preferred D.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:52 am

Alexander is the one who can play off. He’s perhaps at his best in tight man coverage in my opinion, but he is good reacting as well. He’s not particularly physical in press at the line usually, compared to Valentine and Stokes. That is pretty central to press zone. Valentine is like Stokes, he needs to be contesting the take off and catch points or he’s not well suited. I still want to see Rochell, particularly if we aren’t playing tight man coverages, but that seems unlikely.

Unless they play a very different game plan, Seattle might be a game where straight line speed and length matter. They like to go deep and often along the sidelines to Lockett and Metcalf, despite JSN playing largely out of the slot. On paper a very different type of passing offense than we’ve seen in the last 2 games.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 11, 2024 at 03:29 pm

All along I've believed that having good depth, an 8 man rotation, would pay dividends down the stretch in the form of fresher legs and fewer nagging injuries. It's time. We need to win some more games, still, before we're in the playoffs, and this would be a really good time for that to start manifesting itself.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:38 am

Agreed: this is the time where you take the info you've gained by experimenting, put it to practice, and fine-tune it.

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NFLfan's picture

December 11, 2024 at 03:31 pm

I'll help out- lol

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 11, 2024 at 03:40 pm

The return of jaire will make this Defense look completely different. Since he has been out, Haffley has been playing a soft zone and the pass rush is still getting home. They had a little trouble against the lions, but Goff played like Tom Brady and the lions were catching everything. With that style of defense, you hope for a mistake, and the lions didn't make enough. With jaire returning, Haffley can afford to press a bit more, which will give the front 7 more time to get home.

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jlc1's picture

December 11, 2024 at 05:24 pm

a style of defense that hopes for the other team to make a mistake is not a, ahem, defensible defense.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 12, 2024 at 05:56 pm

I don't disagree. Just saying that based on what I've seen the last few weeks with jaire out, Haffley clearly didn't trust the corners to press, which we clearly saw in the lions game especially, because he was constantly sending McDuffie and the lbs and STILL allowing easy completions. with jaire I hope we see some blitzes and some press coverage together. It worked against the dolphins, and the Packers did at least get Detroit to have to convert a bunch of 4th downs. It's not nothing. Goff played a great game. We will see this week against Seattle. regardless of Haffleys choices, I see a much more aggressive and confident front seven then I did the first half of the year.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:12 pm

The last two weeks the game plan has been to take the wideouts out of the game. Miami it worked, Detroit it sort of worked. You can't cover everything. It's impossible.

Bad calls, some Detroit luck/good fortune and maybe some failed nerve cost us the game.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:39 am

Jaire was a full participant in practice on Wednesday. Adding a body to the CB room will make a big difference.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:49 am

Not only a 9% manpower addition to the starting 11, but 40% boost for man coverage!

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:13 pm

WIllingness to suit up does not full health make, but he is better probably at 80% than any other corner on the roster.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 11:08 am

Since we haven’t actually been burned on the perimeter in Jaire’s absence, rather over the middle, I question the extent of that. I don’t question a healthy Jaire being better: he is, obviously. I do wonder about the basis for his absence as a justification for going passive (and that we actually did consistently).

We were actually best on the perimeter against Tua, when the edge guys played the most aggressive press (zone) we’ve seen for a while. The narrative that we can’t press without Jaire doesn’t seem to be supported by failures when playing more aggressively, though it could be just a failure to test or feel the need to given the extent of opportunity over the middle. Instead we seem to be much less good playing softer coverages.

Hafley has played zone more than Barry was last year, and mostly not press, with or without Alexander. To the extent that that was due in part to Alexander being absent, that would be through trepidation not outcomes. It would also be directly contrary to the relative strengths of the CBs he’s called on during that absence.

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jlc1's picture

December 11, 2024 at 03:45 pm

There are a lot of reasons to criticize this defensive line. An interesting stat is that opponents are 17 of 27 on 4th down conversions. It is not the conversion rate as much as the number of attempts. It means the other team is getting too many yards on first and second down. A stouter d line against the run on the early downs would likely make the pass rush more effective on 3rd and longer. So where they stand overall against the run is maybe less important than how they are doing against the run on first and second down. Anybody got those stats?

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 11, 2024 at 06:21 pm

so, how is that an interesting stat. Most 4th downs are exceptionally short yardage and if the conversion rates were really bad, teams wouldn't go for it on fourth down.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 11, 2024 at 06:35 pm

"It is not the conversion rate as much as the number of attempts. It means the other team is getting too many yards on first and second down."

Okay, if that's the case, how do we explain these SUH-tiss-ticks?

Most 4th Down Attempts by Team 2024

1. Browns 34
2.Bears 28
3.Giants 26
4.Cowboys 26
5. Falcons 26
6.Dolphins 25
7. Panthers 25
8. Jaguars 23
9. Lions 22
10. Raiders 21

Have the top 8 teams been tearing it up on first and second downs while we haven't been watching?

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 11, 2024 at 07:00 pm

Whoa, that fastball had some smoke on it!

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:47 am

Great offenses don’t see as many fourth downs and don’t need to roll the die nearly as much when they do. Interesting debate, but a statistical vortex.

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TOMMY'63's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:58 am

Hey Coldworld, I'm not sure of your statement there. You should ask coach Campbell at Detroit what he thinks. The man just loves going on 4th down,doesn't he? It's either qb sneak,run up the middle or wide, and he loves the fake punts as well. Maybe he's a little too risky at times, but man does he have balls!

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 11:12 am

OK, I will bite, as I’m curious. Campbell is an outlier. His O doesn’t see many, but when they do he overtly goes for it more. It’s part of his way of instilling and reinforcing his culture and self belief. At least that’s how I understand his comments on the subject.

Going for it on 4th is a risk:reward call. Where are we in the game time wise? Where on the field? Are we scoring at will? Are we containing on D? Apparently 4th down conversions in the NFL have succeeded about 45% of the time in recent years (higher than I’d have guessed). If I’m scoring at will otherwise or just have a big lead, why bother to roll that die and risk giving them the ball. If I’m worried that I am behind or close and may not get another possession, then it looks like a whole lot better gamble.

Campbell on the other hand backs his team to beat that percentage and prefers to grind opponents down mentally. He values that more than others I suspect. Sometimes that works, like last week, but it arguably cost them heavily against us in the game they lost last year.

The Lions have attempted the 7th most 4th down conversions. Despite their points scored, they are in the bottom 5 for field goal attempts per game. They simply go for it more often than anyone else. Their risk:reward calculus (valid or not) is clearly different.

Every one of the teams above them on 4th down attempts has (or had for a large amount of time) an impotent O. We have the 3rd least attempts (10). The Vikings have the least with 8. Do we simply not trust our key down offense or our OL protection (risk of injury)? Or do we put more faith in the defense to get the ball back? I don’t know, but clearly we have called at a rate that suggests we see the risk as much greater compared to the league norm.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 12, 2024 at 02:25 pm

I like going for it on 4th down, and I've been a proponent of that ever since I read the notorious "Never Punt" statistical study they did. The Tuesday Morning QB further illustrated the many times teams punted when they should have gone for it.

If your average pass is completed 2/3 of the time, then you should be able to convert 2/3 of fourth downs, excluding those where it's a long way to go.

The downside is, if you fail, it's a turnover on downs. And turnovers will cost you games. Campbell is driving the #1 offense in the NFL right now, and I don't blame him a bit for going for it, even though it'll eventually cost him a big game.

Personally,I hope it blows up in his face and then circles around and bites him in the ass. But as a matter of record, I think coaches should go for it more. But are two, or three, additional sets of downs worth as much as a turnover? That's a hard balancing act with a lot of variables.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:40 am

...and a little bit of vaseline

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 12, 2024 at 10:02 am

Wait, what? You mean...ooooh...never mind.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 12:07 pm

“ When you're stuck like glue
When you need some goo
When you're stuck like glue,
Vaseline
When you're black and blue,
Vaseline”

Justine Frischmann (Elastica)

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GregC's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:11 am

Doesn't third down play into this scenario somehow?

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2024 at 08:53 am

The number of the counting shall be three--no more, no less.
Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.
Five is right out!

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:24 am

So LaFleur “being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it”?

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 12, 2024 at 09:59 am

It hasn't been a run D issue...I think the run D has been rather stout of late. It's the short passes into the soft middle zone that destroyed the Packer D vs the lions.

Lions had 111 yards rushing and three rushes accounted for half of those yards. The Packers bottled up the run game.

Lions were 4/5 on 4th down due to the short passing game getting them to the sticks, not runs.

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coolhand's picture

December 12, 2024 at 12:01 pm

And 3 of the 5 the Lions went for were 4th and 1 foot. 2 were 4th and 1 yard. We stopped them that one time it gave us the lead. Better defense on the other 3 downs would have taken care of that.

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jlc1's picture

December 11, 2024 at 04:00 pm

The sack rate that gets them to the 13th is inflated by the Tennessee game with 8(!). They have 4 sacks in their 4 losses.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 11, 2024 at 06:18 pm

um, the other teams don't count multiple sack games or is this only a thing for the packers. you understand that they aggregate the number of sacks and then assign a league wide average, correct?

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 11, 2024 at 07:13 pm

Being 13th is nothing to be excited about. Only 4 sacks separate the 10th and 20th teams in totals sacks. If the Packers had 4 less in the Tennessee game they'd be 22nd. There's a half dozen outliers in the top and bottom and a bunch of sameness in the middle.

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Coldworld's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:51 am

I don’t really understand this debate. There seems to be a general consensus that we haven’t been particularly successful in rushing the passer, yet we are arguing if other teams sack rates make that somehow Ok?

The Broncos have 47. We have 33. The Falcons have 19. So -14 from the leader and + 14 from the basement. Slap bang in the middle. The definition of mediocre, one might say.

I don’t think that’s likely to be seen as an adequate return on investment in terms of draft status or cap. I don’t think it matches the team’s comments in camp or most of our hopes. That said, if the final four games see a break out, it will end up looking fine, if likely still not spectacular.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 12, 2024 at 07:18 pm

and so we go to points allowed AND not that terribly bad. Top ten.

The issues with wins and losses tracks over to the offense. The defense is doing fine. The offense needs to score more.

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NFLfan's picture

December 11, 2024 at 07:46 pm

GPG

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TKWorldWide's picture

December 11, 2024 at 08:13 pm

Always a good suggestion!

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coolhand's picture

December 12, 2024 at 12:05 pm

What I noticed about the pass rush against the Lions was the middle seemed to open up too many times for Goff to avoid the outside pressure, step up and have an easy throw. Our D line needs to stay in their lanes and NOT get pushed too far to the outside. And keep an eye on the QB and get a hand up when he makes the throw.

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