Packers Snap Counts Versus The Dolphins: Week Sixteen
The Packers did not elevate anyone from the Practice Squad. The inactive players were David Bakhtiari (appendectomy) and four healthy scratches in Jonathan Garvin, Jonathan Ford, Caleb Jones and Shemar Jean-Charles. Garvin is interesting because the Packers kept Krys Barnes and Rasheed Walker activated, so Garvin was the odd man out.
The Packers lost Nijman, Nixon, Watson, and Lowry to injury during the course of the game, and Aaron Jones seemed to have been shaken up for a time.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Tom | 66 | 100 | |
| Jenkins | 66 | 100 | |
| Myers | 66 | 100 | 6 - 23% |
| Runyan | 66 | 100 | 6 - 23% |
| Newman | 48 | 73 | 6 - 23% |
| Nijman | 18 | 27 | 2 - 8% |
| Walker | 4 - 15% | ||
| Tenuta | 4 - 15% | ||
| Rodgers | 66 | 100 | |
| Love | DNP | ||
| Dillon | 38 | 58 | |
| Jones | 25 | 38 | |
| Patrick | 5 | 8 | 7 - 27% |
| Tonyan | 38 | 58 | |
| Lewis | 29 | 44 | 6 - 23% |
| Deguara | 19 | 29 | 8 - 31% |
| Davis | 14 | 21 | 21 - 81% |
| Lazard | 59 | 89 | |
| Doubs | 40 | 68 | 2 - 8% |
| Cobb | 32 | 48 | 1 - 4% |
| Watson | 25 | 38 | |
| Toure | 6 | 9 | |
| 21 on Offense | |||
The Packers have a disjointed offense built mostly off of big plays. Once again there was no one single thing the Packers could rely upon to move the ball. That leads to the perception of hero ball by Rodgers, but that and long runs by the running backs kind of define the Packers offense.
Running backs had 5 carries in the first half for 13 yards (2.6-yard average) with a long of 6 from Dillon and a long for Jones of 4. The other three attempts garnered 3 yards. Rodgers completed 14 of 22 passes for 114 yards (5.18 yards/attempt) with a touchdown and no interceptions. He had a passer rating of 84 in the first half. The first points came after a 93 yard kickoff return by Nixon to the Miami 9. After the Packers 3 plays that lost 9 yards, Crosby kicked a field goal. Miami then squibbed a kickoff that Deguara knocked down and fell on at the Green Bay 46. The Packers did put together a 10-play, 54 yard drive that featured a 20-yard pass to Watson and a 12-yard scramble by Rodgers on a 3rd and 8. The Packers failed to convert on 3rd and goal from the 5 but Rodgers hit Marcedes Lewis on a 4th down play to score a touchdown. After Jarran Reed stripped Tagavailoa and recovered the fumble at the Miami 49, the Packers ran 8 playes that gained 21 yards, featuring two receptions by Watson for 9 and 10 yards. Crosby hit a 46-yard field goal to make the score 20-13.
The Packers did have a long 11-play, 78-yard touchdown drive on their opening possession of the second half to even the score at 20. It was powered by an absolute dime from Rodgers to Marcedes Lewis for 31 yards, but also had several successful carries by Dillon, including his one-yard touchdown run. The Packers did convert a 3rd down on this drive with a 17-yard completion to Patrick Taylor. They failed to pick up a first down on a 3rd and 3 carry by Dillon, but a quarterback sneak by Rodgers on fourth down was successful. The Packers converted just 2 of 14 third down opportunities but converted 3 of 4 fourth down tries (3 of 5 if one includes the unsuccessful run on the fake punt). Jaire Alexander intercepted a Tuagovailoa pass and returned it 14 yards to the Miami 23 yard line. The Packers ran 6 plays that netted 4 yards and kicked a field goal to finally take the lead, 23-20. After a nice interception by DeVondre Campbell, the Packers put together a 9-play, 56-yard drive that features receptions to Doubs for 22, Tonyan for 13, and an 18-yard run by Aaron Jones. The Packers settled for a 26-yard field goal. The Packers were only 2 of 5 in the red zone.
The running backs gained 61 yards on 17 carries, a 3.59-yard average. In the second half, the Packers ran the ball 12 times for 48 yards, but 29 of those yards came on two carries, with the other 10 carries gaining just 19 yards. Jones only got 8 touches (6 carries and 2 receptions on 2 targets) while Dillon got 13 (11 carries, 2 receptions).
Rodgers was only hit 3 times and sacked twice. Both sacks appeared to be on plays Rodgers hung on to the ball too long, particularly the first sack. Rodgers does still move around the pocket well, and he was able to buy himself some time on several occasions or he was able to scramble. Rodgers is on average throwing the ball on average 2.66 seconds after the snap, which ranks as the 10th fastest quarterback time. It looked at times as though the Packers did not trust their pass protection. The Packers played a whopping 1.51 TEs on average, including one play with 4 TEs on the field.
The Dolphins have three good pass rushers in Jaelan Phillips (7 sacks, 20 QB hits), Bradley Chubb ( 8 sacks, 18 QB hits) and Melvin Ingram (6 sacks, 10 QB hits). Phillips played 83% of possible snaps but Chubb (42%) and Ingram (28%) may have been on snap counts after being on the injury reports this week. Jon Runyan had some difficulties with Christian Wilkins, who is a beast. The run blocking was a little too hit and miss. Rodgers threw at least three dimes, but also about the same number of turnover-worthy throws.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Douglas | 50 | 100 | 12 - 46% |
| Amos | 50 | 100 | 8 - 31% |
| Alexander | 50 | 100 | 5 - 19% |
| Savage | 32 | 64 | 8 - 31% |
| Ford | 19 | 32 | 3 - 12% |
| Gaines | 13 | 26 | 15 - 58% |
| Nixon | 7 | 14 | 4 - 14% |
| Carpenter | 3 | 6 | 10 - 38% |
| Leavitt | 20 - 77% | ||
| Ballentine | 13 - 50% | ||
| Campbell | 50 | 100 | 5 - 19% |
| Walker | 48 | 96 | 2 - 8% |
| Smith | 38 | 76 | 5 - 19% |
| Enagbare | 36 | 72 | 10 - 38% |
| Hollins | 24 | 48 | 1 - 4% |
| Barnes | 5 | 10 | 5 - 19% |
| Wilson | 15 - 58% | ||
| McDuffie | 15 - 58% | ||
| Clark | 40 | 80 | 5 - 19% |
| Reed | 34 | 68 | 5 - 19% |
| Wyatt | 24 | 48 | 2 - 8% |
| Slaton | 20 | 40 | 11 - 42% |
| Lowry | 7 | 14 | 4 - 15% |
| 23 on Defense |
The defense allowed just 20 points, including a field goal after a fake punt gave Miami the ball at the Green Bay 20 yard line. After the mishap, the defense stopped the Dolphins (7 plays that netted just 4 yards) and even forced a fumble (Preston Smith) but unfortunately an offensive lineman recovered the fumble. On the other hand, the Packers allowed 8.6 yards per play, and 4.6 yards per carry. The Dolphins punted just one time despite having 11 possessions. The Dolphins looked like they could do whatever they wanted to do in the first half. They ran the ball 9 times for 58 yards (5.43 average) and Tuagovailoa completed 9 of 12 passes for 229 yards (19.08 yards per attempt), good for a 144 passer rating. They scored on 4 of their 6 first half possessions (two touchdowns and two field goals). The Dolphins had an offensive holding call followed by a fumble that they recovered for a loss of 5 more yards to force their only punt and their other unsuccessful possession was due to losing a fumble forced and recovered by Jarran Reed.
The Dolphins had four possessions in the second half: missed 48-yard field goal, and three interceptions. DeVondre Campbell stepped in front of a Dolphin receiver for a nice interception, while the other two appeared to be passes that sailed on Tuagovailoa. The Dolphins continued to run well in the second half, gaining 26 yards on 5 carries (5.2-yard average), but they only had some 22 plays in the second half due to their turnovers.
Adrian Amos had 7 tackles (6 solo) in the first half. By my count, 6 of Amos' tackles came at least a dozen yards downfield. That is not to disparage him, as several of them were done well and limited gains. There were simply a lot of big plays allowed in the first half. Amos finished with 11 tackles (9 solo), followed by Reed with 6 tackles (three in each half) plus a sack, two quarterback hits, a tackle for loss, a forced fumble and one fumble recovery. Preston Smith had 5 solo tackles, 2 QB hits, and a sack. The Packers know what to expect from the consistent Smith, unlike many of their other players. I thought Slaton (3 tackles) and Wyatt (1 assisted tackle and 1 QB hit) had better games this week.
Still, the defensive line struggled, particularly in the first half, despite playing 2.5 true defensive linemen per play on average. Clark got pushed out of the play on some double teams, and Lowry and Reed were not stout. Quay Walker had just one assisted tackle for the whole game, and Campbell managed just 3 tackles (1 solo). The defensive backs had to make a lot of tackles.
One should note that Savage played 32 snaps (64%) with Ford, Nixon and even Carpenter getting on the field for 19, 7, and 3 snaps. Amos and Ford were the starters.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Nixon had a 93-yard kickoff return. Doubs was okay with kickoff returns of 21 and an 18 yards, though neither provided good field position. O'Donnell had one 46-yard punt with no return. Cobb returned one punt for 2 yards. Crosby made all of his attempts. Miami averaged 17.4 yards per kickoff return with a long of 27.
WR: 2.45
TE: 1.51
RB: 1.03
DL: 2.50
ILB: 2.06
OLB: 1.98
DB: 4.48
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Comments (37)
Thegreatreynoldo
December 26, 2022 at 05:29 am
It would appear as though Pro Football Focus took Christmas off. I could not find an article with routes run information, at any rate.
I must confess I missed the bulk of the second half. First, I drove 20-some minutes to my in-laws' home during halftime. Halftime does not last that long. Then, dinner was served at 2:15 p.m., but my wily brother-in-law secured the only seat at the dining room table from which the television is visible. I mostly saw replays of the big plays. I therefore do not know exactly what changed in the second half in terms of adjustments, if any. I really just saw Miami stopping itself with INTs and fumbles. I am also a little behind on who got injured, and how much time they missed. I know Watson caught no passes in the second half, and Nijman did not make the entire first half. I knew Nixon and Lowry got injured in the first half. Aaron Jones I really did not realize was not playing that much. Not quite sure what to make of Darnell Savage - did Ford get hurt or was he benched?
Packers allowed just 2 of 7 third down conversions, or 3 of 8 including fourth down. That belies another issue that Miami did not have that many 3rds downs due to their success on first and second downs. GB was 2 of 14 on third down conversions, which is awful, or 5 of 19 including 4th down conversion attempts, which is still bad. IDK, LaFleur was extremely aggressive, like he didn't trust his defense or something inconceivable like that.
Leatherhead
December 26, 2022 at 08:06 am
You missed the best half of Packer football I’ve seen in a while. Our season was down to 30 minutes and we were looking at a 3 and out, but we converted a fourth down on the sneak and you could just see our intensity go up on offense. And when our defense took the field , tied, you could see they were playing for the season, too. It was a “guts of the game” moment, and for the first time all season, we looked like the team we could be, in all phases. Im hoping there’s some carryover to next week.
13 points in the first and second halves = 26, which is usually enough to win. A great job of protecting the ball and staying on the field, but we left a lot of points on the field.. When I look at the 21 offensive players we suited up, I see quite a few changes I would make before next year.
T7Steve
December 27, 2022 at 07:32 am
That's the first sneak I've seen AR run this year. Have a real problem with an offence that doesn't need to be defended for that on third and fourth and short,
Leatherhead
December 27, 2022 at 08:21 am
Years ago, Rodgers got a concussion on the sneak and that was the end of that.
Guam
December 26, 2022 at 08:38 am
Watson was out with a hip injury for the second half. Hopefully minor, but have heard nothing definitive.
The defense finally looked like the defense we hoped we had in preseason. They were a dominant bunch that shut down both the rushing and passing attack of Miami. Night and day from the first half. Local paper reported that Jerry Gray stood up at halftime and verbally scorched the secondary for their poor play in the first half. Three interceptions in the second half as well as much better run support resulted.
Rodgers also looked much sharper in the second half. Even Newman played reasonably well at RT in place of the injured Nijman. I think Leatherhead said it well - they knew their season was on the line.
You really need to speak to your in-laws about starting dinner in the middle of a Packer game............:)
dobber
December 26, 2022 at 09:48 am
"Watson was out with a hip injury for the second half. Hopefully minor, but have heard nothing definitive."
I seem to remember a second-half shot witth Watson on the sideline and not in the lockerroom, and not in street clothes. That's at least a little encouraging. Some WR never seem to get hit hard...Watson just takes too many hits.
"Even Newman played reasonably well at RT in place of the injured Nijman. "
He seemed to be OK, but Runyan seemed to struggle more after Nijman went out. Playing next to a lesser player will do that to your OL.
Leatherhead
December 26, 2022 at 01:10 pm
IMO, Watson could muscle up and that might make him a little more resistant to injury. I was looking at his guns and he's a lot more slender than somebody like Metcalf, for example, or even Lazard.
If Watson were interested, I'd be happy to help him train his arms, He should probably book us into a resort in Hawaii for a couple of months, but he'd have bigger arms.
Coldworld
December 26, 2022 at 03:49 pm
Watson gets hit because of how we use him and he’s a threat. We use him to stand there and make big receiver catches as if he was Lazard more often than makes any sense. Part of that is because we don’t use Doubs or anyone able to pull defenders in ways that might.
Too often it’s Doubs, Lazard and Cobb and the latter 2 aren’t sudden enough to scare and it’s usually Lazard that’s getting less attention. If Doubs is out there there’s no third threat established and Doubs is typically the other side. We make zero effort to establish or target Toure even if he is out there.
Yesterday we weren’t using runners either, before Watso. Got hurt, and were shy of using Taylor (despite good results) with Jones on a snap could when we did. No help drawing the D into run fits really. Not only are these persistent traits ineffective and a big factor in the boom or bust O we see, but they lead to Watson getting group coverage and being hit hard and immediately all too often.
After we lose Watson we won’t even try to be aggressive with Doubs let alone Toure, despite both having a history of deeper success. It’s just LaFleur bring LaFleur and it’s a bigger reason for this Os struggles than Rodgers ever had been, even on a day when, like yesterday, he’s hit and cold. Arguably, it’s partly why he has been that so frequently. LaFleur is the biggest impediment to this offense, yet so many give him a pass.
Ford wax injured in the first half, along with Nixon, Watson, Nijman and Lowry. Jones was apparently dinged and on a snap count coming in. Lowry departing made the D better. Wyatt and Slaton both actually caused them to change their approach. Reed had a good game, but so much better with them in than Lowry. In my view that change affected Tua and also unlocked Reed.
We are still visibly wasting better talent 16 games into a season, in my view on both sides of the ball. We need a different HC. Then we might get better from whomever the DC is.
jannesbjornson
December 26, 2022 at 01:55 pm
Maybe some of these dudes will wear hip pads? Even the kevlar, light weight models will help. They gave help to Tom. Newman showed his stripes, but seemed to settle in later?
LLCHESTY
December 26, 2022 at 08:39 am
Still nothing up on PFF. Their game recaps were much better in previous years IMO. I haven't visited their site much this fall for a variety of reasons but it seems like there's a lot more gambling articles, which I guess makes sense when you're trying to add subscribers.
As far as the game I thought the Packers got very lucky in the 1st half with the Dolphins hurting themselves with inopportune penalties and seeming to forget about the run after getting some big gains early. I thought a key before the game would be try to clog the middle of the field and make Tua throw outside the numbers and I didn't like their chances. In the 2nd half they had a little more success and two of those outside balls sailed on him.
dobber
December 26, 2022 at 09:50 am
"the Dolphins hurting themselves with inopportune penalties and seeming to forget about the run after getting some big gains early."
I guess my response would be that there were 3-4 Packers opponents this season who benefitted from the Packers forgetting how to run the football and going away from what works. You'd think that by now, coaches would know their teams and what they need to do to win...
Leatherhead
December 26, 2022 at 01:12 pm
"the Dolphins hurting themselves"""
A very long time ago, a very old coach told me that most games are lost, not won. Everything I have seen in the 50+ years since then confirms itin my mind.
The team that makes the fewest mistakes usually wins.
BirdDogUni
December 27, 2022 at 09:10 am
Best coach I ever had was my father. He would harp on "mental mistakes" - "penalties" - "Going hard for 6 seconds."
You know those times in between drills or "Gatorade" breaks during two-a-days? That is when he demanded our attention. When you were sucking wind and everything hurt, he demanded we listen and pay attention, because in the 4th quarter, when things were tough, and we were tired is when mistakes happen.
"I will never get mad at you for being beat physically. If the guy across from you is bigger or stronger or quicker, it will be up to you to be smarter. You'll have to find a way to beat him mentally. What I will not tolerate is stupid mental mistakes. Jumping off-sides, holding, not knowing your assignment on each and every play. If you are getting whipped physically, I need to know! We can double-team him, we can run plays away from him, we can trap him, but in the heat of the moment we can't see everything from the sidelines, so I need to know if you need help..."
"The average play lasts less than 6 seconds. I need you to go hard for 6 seconds at a time. If you give me 6 seconds as hard as you can go, every time the ball is snapped, I guarantee we will win. (He'd look around at every player on the team as if he were only talking to them. He was a master at making every kid feel like he was the most important player on the team.) If you can't give me your best for 6 seconds, I will find someone who will."
He was a master at finding the perfect place for everyone to play. Small town, so if you were a Senior, came to practice everyday, and worked hard, he would find a place play them.
Preseason, he would always find a way to make an example of me. Though we never talked about it, I knew he would go the % off on me early in practice to make the point that no matter who it was, he expected everyone's best. He did expect more from me. I always understood that. Playing QB, even in HS is tougher than people who haven't done it know. He expected me to know everyone's assignment on every play. Early in the preseason every year he'd pick a play out of the playbook during practice and ask me in front of the whole team what every offensive players assignment was during a walk through. I would have to go through every position. I knew he would do this for several reasons. First, to show that his QB (not his son) knew what every player was supposed to do on every play. Then he would switch up the defense from an even front to an odd front and make me go through it all again. Making the point if Coach expected the QB to know what every player was suppose to do on every play, each player should know their individual assignment.
He was a master at setting up opposing defenses to exploit their weaknesses. Surprisingly, after my Freshman year, he allowed me to call most of the plays. Of course we would talk about what we wanted to do and he would run in plays when he wanted.
My Junior year, we came up with signals for certain plays and he came up with a simple audible system, so I could call plays at the LOS. Senior year "Coach" called about a dozen plays all season. We were conference champs 3 out of my 4 years in HS. (When I was a Sophomore, we only had a handful of Seniors, a handful of Juniors, and started mostly Sophomores...)
Miss you Coach! RIP
BirdDogUni
December 27, 2022 at 09:12 am
Sorry guys & gals. Didn't mean to go off on a tangent. Memories just came flooding back...
T7Steve
December 27, 2022 at 09:58 am
Brought back the realities of two-a-days. I was one of coaches' favorite targets too. Still, I loved practice as much as the actual games.
croatpackfan
December 26, 2022 at 08:56 am
You missed the best play from DL, made by Dean Lowry. That play was so good that Packers decided to pull him out of the game and preserve him for next season - to play for other team (I'm talking of the play when he was injured - I hope it is nothing serious, and he will be in position to continue his career, with one of 31 possible franchises).
PackyCheese500
December 26, 2022 at 09:55 am
Give him to the Vikings or Bears!
jvole
December 26, 2022 at 05:47 am
I thought Wyatt looked fast and better than Lowry when he played. He was held a couple of times and shockingly (joke), these were not called. I don't understand why Wyatt has not been playing more? It's not like he is getting blown off the line.
Happy for the win.
brettnivinski
December 26, 2022 at 07:04 am
I agree. His performance was what jumped out at me. The uptick in the defensive performance comes with his entry into game. Slatin played well also.
I think that was the key to the turnaround.
HarryHodag
December 26, 2022 at 09:17 am
Wyatt is worthy of the first-round pick but like some rookies it takes them awhile to adjust to the mental aspects of the pro game which is faster and stronger than college.. I think he fits in that category.
Lowry is a free agent and Wyatt could take the job and save the Packers some money. Lowry has been one of those tough nut players who stick because of toughness and smarts rather than skill, but the money isn't going to add up in his favor this off season.
Leatherhead
December 26, 2022 at 09:34 am
He’ll be paid well…..by some other team.
jannesbjornson
December 26, 2022 at 01:51 pm
He, most definitely, is better.
stockholder
December 26, 2022 at 06:22 am
Savage is out of the dog house.
Lphill
December 26, 2022 at 08:09 am
Wyatt was the difference maker in the second half I have been saying for weeks it should be Wyatt ,Clark and Slaton on the D line .
Lphill
December 26, 2022 at 08:09 am
Wyatt was the difference maker in the second half I have been saying for weeks it should be Wyatt ,Clark and Slaton on the D line .
Thegreatreynoldo
December 26, 2022 at 08:48 am
I've read some comments and now I see Ken Lass agreeing with the notion that Douglas successfully confused Tua as to whether he was playing man or zone which led to the interception. Very well, then, Douglas' INT was a good play (and/or part of a good scheme possibly designed to confuse) and Campbell's INT was also a nice play by him. I listened to Alexander's interview with Pam Oliver during which he said Tua just overthrew the pass that he intercepted. All three guys held on to those passes. So, the defense and/or players should get some credit for two of the three INTs rather than thinking that Tua just lost his touch or that Miami just was shooting itself in the foot.
LeotisHarris
December 26, 2022 at 03:04 pm
They all held on to those passes, yes. We've seen quite a few dropped interceptions in recent seasons. Will Redmon comes to mind, so it's good to see them hang on to the "easy" ones.
cdoemel
December 26, 2022 at 08:31 pm
If anything is really easy in the NFL!
dobber
December 26, 2022 at 10:04 am
TE snaps seem to be on the upswing. I'd be curious to know how that was impacted this week by Watson's injury. It certainly seemed that Tyler Davis got most of his snaps in the second half. Still, the TE is featured in this offense primarily in blocking.
Distribution of LB snaps seems to argue that Walker or Campbell was getting at least a little usage on the outside.
DL snaps seem to be up, too. Reed had one of his better games as a Packer. He's showing better as the season progresses...which I'm starting to think has something to do with who he's playing next to (e.g. more Slaton/Wyatt).
As always, thanks, TGR!
Coldworld
December 26, 2022 at 05:44 pm
Reed had been a lot better than credited all season, as long as you don’t expect him to be a run stuffing NT. The difference between him and Lowry is that he has power as well as a quick first step and can and does make stops in the run game, particularly on key plays, just not consistently enough to be a true NT despite his size. This has been the case for a few years. PFF has, until this week, typically been been as hard on him as it has been generous to Lowry, but PFF categorizes them differently. It’s not a good position for PFF ratings due to role discrepancies.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 27, 2022 at 12:38 am
Top/Bottom PFF Grade Offense per Zach Kruse:
Lewis (81.3), Watson (79), AR (74.9), Tom (71.7), Nijman (71.4)
Cobb (48.3), Jones (52), Deguara (54.4), Newman (54.5), Tonyan (59.5)
I suppose the surprise is AR. I thought he missed some passes and one if not both sacks were on him. PFF agreed with me when I wrote he threw some dimes but PFF noted two turnover-worthy throws, whereas I had 3. I knew Newman had a rough day - Wilkins is good. Cobb caught one for 5 yards, so his grade was bound to be poor. I am surprised Tonyan's grade isn't lower given he caught just one pass for 13 yards and on 26 routes run. 0.5 yards per route is bad. Looks like he ran blocked on 12 snaps. Must have been better than average. Phillips, Chubb and Ingram did not do much, so the nice grades for the OTs is not surprising. Tom gave up just two hurries.
Smith (90.0), Reed (89.9), Alexander (72), Savage (68.1), Douglas (64.9)
Walker(36.1), Enagbare (48.1), Amos (49.3), Wyatt (49.9), Ford (54.4)
Smith is consistent. Reed filled the stat line. Jaire looked okay. Savage didn't allow a completion. Douglas has some ups and downs, but definitely some ups. I thought Amos played better than graded. Wyatt, too: although his stat line was nearly nonexistent I thought he was pretty stout. Not PFF. They thought he had two pressures but a lousy run grade. Somebody is responsible for all of those crossers so seeing some DBs with low grades isn't a surprise. Walker has one assisted tackle. That's it. Can't be good. Pressure was light other than Preston.
So, Clark is between 54.4 and 64.9. Campbell, too. Yeah, my problem with Clark and Campbell are their their contracts, especially Clark's outsized deal. Need the guys you are paying to be very good to be at least good, and GB isn't getting that out of Clark.
T7Steve
December 27, 2022 at 07:52 am
I think Clark absorbs 2 or 3 blockers on every play. That's impact that allows these other to shine. His best plays come when Slayton is in there for some reason. Maybe his size takes some of the blocking that usually goes toward Clark?
jvole
December 27, 2022 at 07:54 am
To me Tyler Davis is the new Amari Rodgers. Somebody loves the guy. His block on the Aaron Jones' run was an illegal motion but having horrible refs saved us on that one. Deguara, Tonyan and Lewis are enough and so much better--Why put this guy out there?
BirdDogUni
December 27, 2022 at 09:22 am
In hindsight, I think we'll end up agreeing he was another wasted 3rd round pick. (Deguara I mean.)
I do agree with you though. Davis is still a work in progress and not progressing as fast as any of us would like. We definitely need better TE play next year.
Coldworld
December 27, 2022 at 10:02 am
The thing is Deguara had played well when given the opportunity this year. If he’s a waste it’s because we don’t use the role he was drafted to fill very well and that LaFleur was so visibly ecstatic to have when he was drafted. This very very simple O is very vanilla and far too dependent on Cobb/Lazard even with Watson. This is as far from the illusion of complexity as one could get.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 28, 2022 at 03:09 am
I don't think Deguara is suited to play for a team whose OTs need help. He is a move blocking TE, not a guy who takes on the bigger edge guys.
Tonyan's best year was when GB had a superb OL with vintage Bakh, All-Pro Linsley, Jenkins and Turner, which probably allowed Lucas Patrick to have his career year at OG. If Tonyan has to block or even chip first, his effectiveness drops like a rock. I think the same for Deguara.
jvole
December 27, 2022 at 10:04 am
Yeah, sadly I do not think Deguara will amount to much. When your primary job is blocking as a TE and you are 'ok' at it, then that's a problem. The 3rd round curse continues!
I also thought Dominique Dafney was across the board better than Davis. It's weird.