Replacing a Packers QB Legend

Following the retirement of Tom Clements, who's next up?

It's the end of an era in Green Bay. And it's an era that the average fan might not even know about, or understand. But it quite possibly could have been one of the most impactful eras in franchise history. Tuesday in his end-of-season press conference, Matt LaFleur announced that longtime Packers' Quarterbacks coach, and a man I like to refer to as "The True Quarterback Whisperer" will be retiring. In two different stints, Tom Clements spent 14 years with the Packers, in positions such as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. He initially retired in 2020 following a two-year stint with the Arizona Cardinals, but after Aaron Rodgers intrigued him with the idea of returning to the Packers to work with him and Jordan Love, he decided to come out of retirement for three more years in Green Bay. 

Clements arrived in Green Bay along with Mike McCarthy in 2006 as Quarterbacks coach and he walked into a QB room that consisted of the legendary Brett Favre, and the young talented QB prospect, Aaron Rodgers. How's he going to handle a guaranteed first-ballot Hall of Famer approaching the end of his career, along with a young talented prospect looking to take the Hall of Famer's job soon? Well, Tom Clements had a pretty decent resume. Before he came to Green Bay, Clements had tutored three different Pro Bowl Quarterbacks. Elvis Grbac in Kansas City, Tommy Maddox in Pittsburgh, and also Kordell Stewart in Pittsburgh. Those three Quarterbacks are names that unless you followed football closely in their eras, you likely didn't know their names. Clements had a way of maximizing the untapped potential of any Quarterback he touched. Even one that had already seen it all like Brett Favre. 

Before Clements' arrival, Brett Favre had become a loose canon. The season before he had thrown a career-high 29 interceptions. He was trying to rely on his ability to make magic happen instead of using his knowledge of the game. Clements was able to rope Favre in and before you knew it, Brett Favre was spending more time in the film room and even his throwing mechanics had changed a bit. This led to one of his best years in 2007. Favre completed a career-high 66.5% of pass attempts, surpassed 4K yards, and achieved the third-best passer rating of his career. Favre was also a runner-up in nearly achieving his fourth MVP award.

All while resurrecting the career of a legend, Clements was also prepping Aaron Rodgers for his own legendary career. Aaron Rodgers credits Tom Clements for much of his success going on to win four MVP awards, a Super Bowl, and a future bust in the Hall of Fame much like his predecessor. In between stints in Green Bay, Clements also coached Cardinals QB Kyler Murray to a Pro Bowl making him his sixth Pro Bowl QB. But then after a few years of enjoying retirement, it was back to Green Bay where he coached up Jordan Love to take over the reins for Aaron Rodgers for three years before deciding that it was time to return to retirement at 71 years old. 

In Green Bay, he resurrected the career of a legend while molding another, and time will tell his impact on the franchise due to his work with Jordan Love.

How do you replace that?

 

Choosing a Successor

As I said before, Tom Clements has coached up successors to two legendary quarterbacks. But now it's time for the Packers to choose the legendary coach's successor. 

Even before this season, I couldn't help myself but to make the joke that I wish they could place Tom Clements' brain in a younger body so the Packers could benefit from his knowledge for much longer. That technology doesn't exist, yet, so, the next best thing could be those that have learned from him. The Packers are notorious for promoting from within. Just like they have with their Quarterbacks in the last 20 years, they like to develop their coaches, scouts, and even executives in-house. The top in-house candidates to take over for Tom Clements would likely be either current passing game coordinator Jason Vrable, current Assistant Quarterbacks Coach Connor Lewis, or current Offensive Assistant, who's essentially been a second Assistant QB Coach, Sean Mannion.  Lewis is a young up-and-comer, and Mannion was seemingly brought in to be a Tom Clements apprentice, so I can't help but gravitate towards them a bit. Vrable has done good work as a past receiver coach and has been around Clements the last few years so I wouldn't doubt the knowledge rubbed off on him as well. But there's also an intriguing outside candidate.

I'm not so sure you can truly call him an outside candidate, but since he hasn't been on the Packers' coaching staff for three years, I guess you can. Luke Getsy could be an intriguing external candidate. Getsy is coming off an offensive coordinator stint in Las Vegas as well as a two-year stint with Chicago. Before that, he was the Packers' Quarterbacks coach for three years, as well as passing game coordinator for two under Matt LaFleur from 2019-2021. He was also the Offensive Quality Control coach for two years and Wide Receivers coach for two under Mike McCarthy in Green Bay from 2014-2017. For as much as Clements' knowledge is valuable to me personally, Getsy spent three seasons as a position coach under Tom Clements while Clements was the Packers' offensive coordinator. Getsy was then the Quarterbacks coach when Aaron Rodgers returned to back to back MVP form hence he earned looks as an offensive coordinator on other teams. When Getsy left, that's when Aaron Rodgers lobbied to bring back Tom Clements. I don't doubt the idea at all that Aaron Rodgers knew Getsy possessed Tom Clements' QB philosophy and the only person outside Getsy Rodgers trusted to continue with that was Clements himself. 

Of course, with the Getsy idea I could be just playing assistant coach fantasy football. But after Getsy's (in my opinion) unfair stint with the Raiders, he was spotted on the Packers' practice field and it was revealed that he was helping out the Packers' defense by way of reverse knowledge. A bit of a "how might an offense attack you and how can you react in response." type of temporary position. Like Robert Saleh's little temporary position with the Packers, this could be just Matt LaFleur helping his friend stay busy and sharp before their next stint on another team for the benefit of his squad. But in Getsy's case, I'm not so sure after two failed coordinator stints in three years, that teams will be banging down his door to bring him on for their coordinator position. 

The availability of Luke Getsy could be why when Matt LaFleur announced the retirement of Tom Clements and was asked about Clements' successor he gave kind of a wry smile when saying "You'll just have to see what happens." There very well could be the chance that Tom Clements informed Matt LaFleur of his plans to retire following the conclusion of the 2024 season and that's why LaFleur brought in Getsy. LaFleur could easily have an experienced and trusted coach familiar with his philosophies, familiar with his franchise QB, and well-versed in the knowledge of his legendary departing positional coach. 

Of course, this could all go in a completely different direction with a coach having no prior connections to the Packers, Tom Clements, or Matt LaFleur at all. And don't get me wrong, perhaps a completely new approach to the QB position could be what sends Jordan Love's career into the stratosphere. However, given how invaluable Clements has been to this organization for almost 20 years now, I can't help but want that "QB coaching lineage" to continue. Time will just have to tell.

 

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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.

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bjb2012sime's picture

January 15, 2025 at 02:41 pm

Predecessor
"I do not think it means what you think it means."
-Montoya
Consider Successor

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GregMeinholz's picture

January 15, 2025 at 03:11 pm

Ugg! Thank you for pointing that out, I think I had "predecessor" on my mind from my previous comments about Rodgers following up Favre. Fixed it!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 16, 2025 at 10:08 am

Predator.

We need JL10 to be the predator out there!

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crayzpackfan's picture

January 15, 2025 at 03:41 pm

I don't care if they bring in Ms. Packman or Harry Potter, whoever it is better be able to get Love's mechanics and footwork corrected. This throwing from his backfoot every time along with his Uncle Rico arm angles needs to stop. He throws the ball like he's off platform from whatever position he is in. It also needs to be drilled into his head, and I mean DRILLED, that when he sees a wide open running lane on a 3rd and short, RUN!!!! He also needs to learn when he is struggling a bit to take what the defense gives him (this is on the coaches too to give him a hot read). It would sure help the O line if he makes these changes. If Ms. Packman or Harry Potter can do this for him, we can start talking about winning the division again. In other words, that would solve 1/2 our problems.

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4thand10's picture

January 15, 2025 at 10:28 pm

He scrambled last year, I suspect that leg/knee injury was a huge factor in that this year. It would also explain a lot of shotgun the last few games…just a suspicion, I have no proof

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 16, 2025 at 10:09 am

What you're talking about comes down to O line. If he isn't pressured all the time he can do that.

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BruceC1960's picture

January 15, 2025 at 05:08 pm

Doesn’t Tom have a little ownership of Love’s poor mechanics and choice of throws?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 15, 2025 at 05:34 pm

I'm so glad you brought that up. I know it's almost bordering on heresy to question Clement's QB guru anointment. But I've wondered the same thing. You would think he would have made more strides in helping Love's footwork, mechanics, etc, problems after several years working with him.

I remember MM and his QB school and how much it helped Rodgers' mechanics. Pretty much totally changed his delivery. I still believe in Love, but I'd lie if I said I wasn't concerned that he hasn't improved on some pretty basic QB mechanics after 5 years in the same system.

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T7Steve's picture

January 16, 2025 at 07:02 am

Don't worry, it will come. After the same number of games starting, Rodgers had 20 games with a rating over 100 and Love has 17 (per Spoff). So, he's still on the same or close to the same trajectory. Even Rodgers and any QBs have had some bad seasons. Also, with this offense, it isn't as dependent on having an MVP type QB to work. Just hope he can get back to going all the way through his progressions and that starting next season MLF will make it so the TEs and RBs aren't always after the 3rd choice.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 16, 2025 at 10:11 am

He didn't have those mechanics problems at TC 2023. He learned those bad habits playing behind a leaky O line.

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NFLfan's picture

January 15, 2025 at 06:28 pm

Rodger's footwork got a little sloppy in his later years but he had 'earned' it and could still throw accurately.
Love likely thought it was OK to throw off back-foot--I don't imagine Tom C liked it from either player

QB coach is an important position-I wish GB would widen their search for the best coach available and not always choose internally--not holding my breath, though.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 15, 2025 at 07:16 pm

"QB coach is an important position-I wish GB would widen their search for the best coach available and not always choose internally--not holding my breath, though."

No kidding. Settling for professional losers and poor teachers like Bart Start, Zeke Bratkowski, Steve Mariucci, Marty Morhinweg, Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Alex Van Pelt, Darrell Bevell, and Tom Clements has consistently set the team back. It's a stagnant, risk-averse culture. I can feel it.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 15, 2025 at 10:00 pm

Wait a minute Leotis, those guys were good. There must be some others who aren't good or NFLfan will have to admit they are a tiresome troll whose presence is nothing more than an annoyance.

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NFLfan's picture

January 15, 2025 at 08:16 pm

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NFLfan's picture

January 15, 2025 at 08:20 pm

@LH- Is anyone in your home allowed to have opinion that differs from yours? I doubt it.
Scroll past my comments-there, that's better.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 15, 2025 at 08:46 pm

As usual, your feels miss the mark. Surprised?

I'm confident your partner nods and smiles a lot while you're rambling, having heard the same monologue too many times. They also likely grind their teeth.

The limited scope of your experience with this great franchise is exceeded only by the certainty with which you weigh in with astounding ignorance on whatever shiny object catches your eye at CHTV.

There, that's better.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 15, 2025 at 10:02 pm

that's funny, their partner. you're in fine form this evening.

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dobber's picture

January 16, 2025 at 07:40 am

Don't post if you're not willing to take all kinds of replies.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 15, 2025 at 08:02 pm

Good luck Tom, in your retirement.

More concerning to me is Hafley interviewing for the Jets HC job. That will create a troubling hole if he leaves unless Saleh has told LaFleur he'd like to get back to coaching defense for a year if Hafley departs.

Hafley's success on D greatly overshadowed Lafleur's work on O this year. Then there's Bicassia's body of work...wait, never mind.

Could Lafleur make Hafley Assistant HC/DC to encourage him to stay?

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dobber's picture

January 16, 2025 at 07:50 am

I think Saleh has already interviewed for the 49ers DC job, hasn't he. I figured he'd be a shoo-in for that if he wanted it...but it implies he's certainly listening to certain jobs.

Since the HC carousel is moving slowly so far (admittedly we're only 10 days into the off-season) and most teams are casting huge nets looking for candidates, Saleh might linger on the market for a bit because they'll be slow to fill out coaching staffs. I suspect he'll be a DC somewhere in 2025...but he'd be my first choice for DC if Hafley moved on. Many media pundits are now speculating Hafley as a HC in the next two years.

"Could Lafleur make Hafley Assistant HC/DC to encourage him to stay?"

That's a tactic commonly used to block lateral moves--a move from DC to DC--because losing the AHC label means the job is actually a demotion. I could see that as a reward for shunning an offer for an unsavory HC job.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 16, 2025 at 09:02 am

He's in play @ Jerry World.

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NFLfan's picture

January 15, 2025 at 08:18 pm

Hafley is likely flattered and going for the interview experience-he's not going to work for Woody.
I'm sure he's heard Saleh's horror stories.

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dobber's picture

January 16, 2025 at 08:00 am

...it's no mystery that the Jets and Bears are poorly run teams and yet, people covet those jobs. Why? There are exactly 32 jobs at the top of the football coaching profession. How long is your fire burning brightly enough to have the chance to earn one? Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn took the chance that they could go back to Detroit and not flub their chances for an additional season before choosing their chance to be a HC. I don't think they really risked very much given the roster they're working with, but if the Lions defense faltered badly (and not directly due to injury) Glenn might have had fewer good opportunities.

Think challenge: you might be that guy to turn it around, and I would posit that there's no lack for ego and desire to compete among this group of professionals. We say some are humble, but compared to what?

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mnbadger's picture

January 16, 2025 at 08:54 am

And don't forget that a HC will likely sign a contract with $45 million, or more guaranteed reasons to lure them into a bad organization.
Not going to lie, I'd work for the Vikings or Bears for that kind of security.
GPG!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 16, 2025 at 10:16 am

Hopefully we keep Hafley. This is bad news

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bleedgreen's picture

January 16, 2025 at 03:45 pm

I doubt he gets the HC job.

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Packitin's picture

January 17, 2025 at 10:38 am

Kind of a deceptive title.
Packers QB legends: Bart Starr, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, maybe Lynn Dickey
Cecil Isbell and Arnie Herber, if you want to include pre-T-formation players
Don Majkowski if you REALLY stretch a point.
TC is a legendary COACH

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