I have often wondered what would go into improving ST ‘s outside of the kickers and returner. I had not thought of mentorship as a tool for ST’s. Yet this article makes it clear that it is one key ingredient in the formula. I prefer the term engage because it fits “wefense” closely.

Surely Mo isn't coaching special teams?!

It was obvious that ST’s was wrought with bonehead plays! So, how does one fix that? Replace the players? Replace the scheme. Replace the coaches? The answer may be all three! We shall see if it works. GPG!

"Bisaccia already made a few changes with getting players he wants on ST's. "

Bisaccia was a great get...not just from the perspective of STs, but in the sense that he stepped in as an interim in Vegas when things could've fallen apart and still nursed them into the playoffs. I think there's no way that Bisaccia takes this job if there weren't some guarantees that management was going to get him some players. He probably still has serious head coach aspirations, so taking on a team with dead-from-the-neck-up STs was not in his best interest. He's taking a bit of a gamble, but turning around this mess would be a serious feather in his cap.

They aren’t, but since the CBA changed a decade or so ago, the limits on practice mean that it tends to be since the P, K and LS tend to work together while others practice. In addition, with less teams keeping 3 QBs, there is a reluctance to rely on the back up to hold in case he has to take over.

Gil, Packers, led by AR, scored only 10 points on home field with ~50 yards total offense in second half.

Please, explain me who is guilty if you, as leader give your collegue to drive the car even if he has no knowledge how to drive nor driver licence. If you find yourself in court, you'll be the culpruit for any acvident that happend.

On same manner AR was giving steering wheel to Packers ST, more often in the second half than in the first paying no interest how game is developing. And asking inadequate ST to punt deep from their own half of the field. So, who is the culpruit?

Do not try to find excuses for abismal performance of AR and offense in general for that loss. The offense is culpruit and, of course, their leader...

It seems to me that --along with shoring up the fundamentals (of course)-- part of the fix on special teams would be to call more aggressive plays once in a while. Because I think one reason STs were so disastrous last season is that other teams were able to focus in on Green Bay's weaknesses and exploit them, like shooting a sitting duck. They could tee off because they knew GB had their hands full already just trying to fix the basics. But if the opposing teams had to worry more about what Green Bay might throw at them on any given week, that would put them more on their heels, on the defensive.

Great article again - I have said before that maybe in the draft and with scouting we probably didnt have special teams etc as part of the evaluation and draft and not specifically talking about kick and punt returns. Blocking and tackling and staying in the lanes. I am also a fan that special teams isnt a place to hide players in case of injury or while they get experience before they jump up to being a starter. And some starters need to play special teams especially if they are great at it. Even if that may risk them getting injured. Hopefully when the final cuts are made - special teams will also factor in. Not wanting to give up a potential valuable starter -but they better have both the ability and desire to be a special teams player at the start. Finally I would like to speak about tackling - maybe RB can develop some better training and skills development on tackling that will rub off or apply to our defense. Having just rewatched a few game - we have guys like Stokes and others with so much talent otherwise miss easy open field tackles by bad technique. Other teams never seem to miss those even on shifty guys like Adams and we miss way too many.

I can see Coach Bisaccia writing on the board addressing his ST players in practice.

He writes, Change the Cult__e. He then turns around, looks at the players...surveys the room and asks, who is going to change the culture of our ST units in Green Bay? He pauses, then points to each and every one of them, saying UR!

Go STs Go!

I’ll be following the Special Teams closely, but I don’t think you can change the nature of the beast with a fiery coach and a new culture.

I’d like to be proven wrong. I think you need to change your thinking about what you’re trying to accomplish, and use appropriate tactics towards that end. Punt out of bounds and have 0 return yards for the season. Fair catch every punt and have 0 turnovers. Etc.,

I just can’t wait to see our first KR/PR for a TD, our first blocked kick, and our first forced fumble on a return, knowing there will be more to follow with Rich Bisaccia in Green Bay, coaching ST for the Packers.

Haven’t been this excited for our STs in over 20 years.

Hiring Bisaccia is a good move. Changing the culture/attitude can make a big difference with any unit on the team. Football is as much about attitude as it is about schemes, technique and execution.

However, somewhere in the GrennBay organization there is a fundamental problem. During the TT era we went years without Safeties, RBs and ILBs. During the Gutekunst era we have gone years without DLs and ILBs until hopefully this season. Overlapping both eras we have gone numerous seasons without TEs and with terrible ST play except for Crosby. We can probably even go back as far as the Mike Sherman era to find unresolved needs for the team.

The only constant in management over all of these seasons is Mark Murphy. Could the Packers failure to improve obvious weaknesses for multiple seasons be Murphy? If so why? It just doesn't make sense. Does the problem lie with our GMs, TT & Gute? Are they finally being addressed?

Any team weakness can develop over the coures of a season due to injuries and/or poor player acquisition. But in Green Bay different weaknesses have continued for years and in the case of STs for the better part of a decade. If the team has a weakness for one season shouldn't it be improved at least during the following offseason. Just about every position group except for QB has been a weakness for multiple seasons. Is it an organizational issue or a focus issue?

I'm hoping this is finally the season where we get passed these ongoing issues with various position groups. I realize that WR looks like a team weakness at this point but we still have TC and preseason to sort out our WR group. Assuming that we keep the best 5-7 WRs on the 53 and PS the receiving corps should evolve into a solid unit in time for the playoffs. As for the STs time will tell but can it really get any worse? Thanks, Since '61

Coach B is going to be a big improvement. I'm a little afraid that the wheels are about to fall off of the Crosby train. I'd be happier if he felt more threatened. The fact that he has the holder living in his house tells me all I need to know about how everyone sees his job security: he ain't going anywhere.

Good stuff. To clarify the movie quote- “If you can DODGE a wrench, you cN dodge a ball.”