The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Packers vs Cowboys

Aaron hands out the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Green Bay Packers Week 4 40-40 tie with Dallas Cowboys.

 

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KenEllis's picture

September 29, 2025 at 02:03 am

Good = Doubs, Jacobs, and Love.

Bad = Everyone associated with the Defense from coaches to the players.

Ugly = Everything associated with Special Teams this century.

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Eldoublek's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:48 am

The good? Hafley will be back next year

The bad? Another MLF team showed up.

The ugly? Special teams proved the entire unit is incompetent

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Ldubdaddy1982's picture

September 29, 2025 at 03:15 am

When are Packers fans going to realize that Matt LaFluer is a better looking and better percentage winning version of Wayne Fontes. He is good enough to beat bad teams with a better roster and never good enough to win a championship. Listen to him after every game. Always the same thing. "We have to be better and that starts with me." For 6+ years? He makes for a nice offensive coordinator but he is not a head coach and leader of men. Does anyone honestly think he is going to push the right buttons and make the necessary decisions to navigate all the way to a SB championship? What on earth was he thinking throwing a pass with under 2 minutes to go when the only thing that loses the game is a turnover (last week vs Cleveland)? What on earth was he thinking trying to throw the ball with 21 seconds left in the half, no timeouts and the ball on GB's 27? He has no feel for decision-making. He is awful with challenges and time management (i.e the end of the game). His look on the sideline is one of a scared puppy. He is holding on to Bisacccia in the same way he did Joe Barry. This guy gets a pass because of his flashy season record. The rosters he's had include a HOF QB and a solid developing QB with tons of talent surrounding them. This roster will not allow for a 5-12 season which would lead to an obvious firing. It will produce a team with a 10 or 11 win season that will ultimately get bounced in the playoffs because Matt LaFluer is not a championship coach. I wish someone in the media would hold him more accountable. This is Green Bay not Detroit. We play for championships here Matt, not shiny records.

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rstain99's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:03 am

Could not say any better, does MLF ever look at the clock management of the game during the week in prep? Each game is a crap shoot, throwing the ball with 6 seconds on the clock at end of OT that's on MLF. Lucky it turned out ok. It's called situational football. This team does the same thing every week starts off driving a Ferrari and turn into a 1973 Pinto in 3rd possession. Defense was exposed by Cowboys think Micah is still rounding into shape, Van Ness, Gary weren't factors . Hopefully Wyatt not too hurt. Special teams yikes!

Doubs: Good Wilson Good. Love Good

Bad: Vaunted Defense, stupid penalties

Ugly: Not so Special teams, And like every week Clock management

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SinceLombardi's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:24 am

It’s more than that. Matt LeFluer is soft and confused. Teams are an extension of their head coach. He’s not the answer. They will not beat Detroit again. They are getting used to the new staff. Meanwhile our staff is a deer in the headlights.
Wildcard, maybe.
Early exit, probably.
New coaching staff in 2026, hopefully.

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Eldoublek's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:05 am

So perfectly said! I've been saying this and more for his tenure.i actually emailed the Packers offering my " challenge " services.
A timeout to get the defense set on 4th and 3 in the 1st qrtr when Dallas clearly wasn't going for it?. More of the same stupid penalties etc. So over it

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CheesePuff's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:20 am

Agree 100%. MLF’s deficiencies have been apparent for a number of years. However, with the Parsons trade, loss of two first round picks and a salary cap straight jacket for the foreseeable future, could the Packers attract a better candidate to replace MLF?

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:45 am

MLF's contract is approximately $5 million annually. His salary places him in the top tier of NFL head coaches. Packers could definitely attract a better candidate to replace him.

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mnbadger's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:24 am

Ldub, I've been beating those drums for 3 years. After reading your comments, I actually checked to see if my name was on the byline.
I've also been getting beaten down for 3 years.
Hopefully Mr policy has already started a file of names to call at season's end.
Unless the zebra HC loses his spots, that will occur wild card weekend.
Dismal.
GPG

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navydisposaleer's picture

September 29, 2025 at 08:59 am

You nailed it! ML isn't good enough to bring out the performances necessary to go the distance. Players need to have a coach that is both mean and nice....habitual "nice" won't cut it. It's sickening the defense or lack of and special teams that can't kick an extra point. How the heck did the Packers get to this stage???

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2025 at 10:15 am

perfectly said!!! He's always had a very good roster that can overcome his dumb decisions...he needs an innovative OC of course his ego wont allow that hire....

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nagawicka's picture

September 30, 2025 at 12:05 pm

A Lion's fan wrote this.

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packerbackerjim's picture

September 29, 2025 at 04:27 am

Good: It’s the bye week. Time for critical analysis and remedies.

Bad: Missed tackles and few contested catches by the DBs.

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packerbackerjim's picture

September 29, 2025 at 04:28 am

Ugly: meet the new ST, same as the old ST.

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CHEESEHEADDALLAS's picture

September 29, 2025 at 11:09 am

When will that happen? When ownership takes control of the team and clears out the idiots that are making the choice to keep him. OWAIT that is us as stock holders time demined accountability of our dumb as coach.

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KurtMc's picture

September 29, 2025 at 05:36 am

Good : Doubs, Jacobs, Kraft, Wilson

Bad : MLF again, D tackling

Ugly : Not so special teams

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SinceLombardi's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:11 am

Good: it’s one game closer to the end of the LeFluer era
Bad : watching a team lose its spine the first time they have controversy in a game. Game after game.
Ugly: the disgustingly soft makeup of a Matt LeFluer coached team. One mistake and the team gets flustered and loses its ability to function. Starting with the coach.
And as an aside: way to get those pre snap penalties cleaned up.
PLEASE Mr Policy.. save us. Do not bring back anyone on this staff in 2026.

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CHEESEHEADDALLAS's picture

September 29, 2025 at 11:10 am

Amen

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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:23 am

Good:
**Love's luck to wiggle out of a turnover.
**Homers are beginning to realize Jordo is an average NFL quarterback that has had more than his share of luck and not a marquee or top tier player.

Bad:
**Luck runs out...
**Our elite defense was MIA or a fraud
**Once again Packers play DOWN to a lesser opponent.

Ugly:
Realization - The two doormats of the league (Browns & Cowboys) and the Packers can't beat either..... Ug, that hurts.

Ok so we take the week off and hopefully wright the ship.

GPG

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SinceLombardi's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:35 am

Love is no Favre or Rodgers, but with a better coaching staff I think he could win consistently. MLF is overrated. For some reason the media loves him.
Ed Policy didn’t make the Parsons trade to lose wildcard games. And I’m afraid losing wildcard games is the ceiling for Matt LeFluer. Although he has lost a few divisional rounders, and an NFC championship game. So he does know something about losing playoff games.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:48 am

Love was 31-of-43 for 337 yards with three TDs and a 118.1 passer rating. Average?

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panda's picture

September 30, 2025 at 06:07 am

Agreed

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NickPerry's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:37 am

The Good...The bye week is coming.

The Bad... Maybe those wins against Detroit and Washington aren't all that impressive after all. Especially the one against Detroit considering what the Lions have looked like the last 3 weeks.

The Ugly...I can't choose between actually ending in a tie with Dallas, or MLF's shortcomings as a HC. Scratch that...The Ugly...MLF's shortcomings.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

September 29, 2025 at 06:45 am

Good: Matthew Golden with a great catch in the first quarter where we had two WRs in the same spot and a clutch 4th down catch in OT. It was bad that he was tackled in bounds in OT when we were down in the red zone, but that was a horrible play call in the situation. Our Rookie looks like a gamer.

Bad: The Wyatt injury. I really think this was the bad turning point for our D.

Ugly: Our Special Teams. From the blocked extra point resulting in a 3 point swing, to our Kicker needing to make our tackles on Kick-offs and nearly knocking himself out of the game. WTF Rich. The ST costing us games has been a long frustrating reality for us fans. Can we just get an average ST performance, we don't ask for much?

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PackfanNY's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:17 am

The Good: I was “whelmed” we didn’t lose. If ever a team deserved not to win it was the Packers last night.

The Bad: Special Teams. The Extra Point block shows us the Packers learned nothing from the FG block the week before. Fair to answer why this wasn’t fixed. Why is Bisaccia here?

The Ugly: Actually there are two.

WTF were the Packers trying to achieve with seconds remaining in the 1st Half? This is the 2nd week in a row that LaFleur’s decision making was baffling.

The Defense. Whatever happened at Halftime DON’T let it happen again. Suddenly the Defense that was tackling and rallying to the ball was missing in action. My God what was Carrington Valentine doing on the sideline “tackle”. Was Parsons, Van Ness, Gary, Cooper etc AT THE GAME last night? We had no pass rush whatsoever. Terrible game. Bad result.

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greengold's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:54 am

Couldn’t agree more, PackfanNY.

Does Matt LaFleur think after last night’s TIE that a FG at the end of Q2 just might tip the scales in GB’s favor? Will the memory of his wasted opportunity be an able to cross through his blood/brain barrier through all the layers of Grecian Formula to matter? To … like … remember not to waste opportunities to put points on the board?

We need some fucking killer instinct on this football team.

“Ahem… paging Rashan Gary… Lukas Van Ness… “

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Grand Mooster J's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:42 am

GOOD Emanuel Wilson
BAD A tie - Defense & special Teams
UGLY The last two offensive plays & clock awareness with a chance to win the game

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:55 am

Word got out that Dallas had 'nothing' defensively after Parsons left and GB played down, like they did with the 'lowly' Browns.

GOOD: Romeo was a reliable star, Jacobs never gave up, Love was good, Kraft

BAD: PASS RUSH- (which made mediocre Valentine and Hobbs weak) WHERE WAS GARY?
REALLY BAD:RICH BISACCIA and his chronically unspecial teams

UGLY; Same problems that never get fixed.

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TXCHEESE's picture

September 29, 2025 at 08:05 am

Agree with those above about putting Golden in the "Good" category. Great poise and very very good hands.

UGLY!: Time management. MLF and Love have been together for over 5 YEARS! Can't believe the lack of awareness regarding the clock, once they were in field goal range at the end of OT. That just shouldn't happen.

But I must add, total BS on the non-call on PI on that last drive. That gets called 98% of the the time.

Somebody needs to kick Bisaccia in the butt...really hard, and I think Mcmanus would volunteer for that opportunity.

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frankthefork's picture

September 29, 2025 at 08:18 am

85% of us agree...MLF is average at best. He can win easy games, i.e., against average teams, but he's not a big-game coach or ready for playoffs (3-5). I'm sorry! Clock and call issues again; very basic.
Special teams are not special. Use the fair catch on punts more.
Wilson is a starting RB; use him more and save Jacob's body.
Doubs is WR #1 for now.
Defense 2 bad game days in a row.
The Packers are better than how they play as a team. Need to jell or get coaching from assistants.
MLF, please watch films of the best coaches in NFL history and learn!

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asmith1969's picture

September 29, 2025 at 08:21 am

A tie. The same idiotic meaning as the phrase “it is what it is.” The definition of mediocrity. Here you go.
Good-The kid from the streets of LA, Romeo Doubs. He can ball even with a helmet the size of Jupiter.
Bad-Hafley. He’s not ready for a HC gig quite yet. Lack of adjustments and scheming against a pedestrian offense.
Ugly-Chris Collinsworth clout chasing the Cowboys and the entire Cowboys organization. I’m sure Jerry would be happy to bring you aboard Chris as a fanboy consultant. Oh yea..Go Pack Go!

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BAMABADGER's picture

September 29, 2025 at 08:58 am

Good: Skill players on offense
Bad: Defense played with No Fire in the Belly after the first 2 series.
Ugly: Rick B needs to go, Blocked kicks that cost two wins, Not kicking into the End Zone the last two KOs last night

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THESZOTMAN1's picture

September 29, 2025 at 09:37 am

1st off, I'll take OT Tie.
Lot of good to spread around ---- Doubs (in maybe his last season as Packer). We now HAVE a #1 WR. McManus---right down Broadway when it counted. Love --- Kept us in see-saw game after fumble. Jacobs --- running hard even when bottled up and banged up. Golden--- no question now about this draft choice. Morgan?
Bad = Team inexplicably disappearing at certain points in last 2 games. Now, ghosting in Qtr 2 is better than Qtr 4, but STILL...... Can we get back to playing 4 Qts of Packr football?
Another game like last night will be the death of me.
Ugly = And now, for the 2nd straight game, the Oscar the Grouch goes to STs! McManus and Whelan can take a bow, but Rich B and the rest just about cost us another game. I'm not one of those "Fire the Coach!" guys, but really......... We ain't goin to no playoffs with this cluster on-going. Much less the Super Bowl.
The Szotman

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Starrbrite's picture

September 29, 2025 at 09:57 am

Jacobs (and Wilson too), runs with fury and passion. Muchbm like Hornung, he “smells the goal line.”
For more than 10 years I have pushed the siren button concerning ST’s. The number of losses they have facilitated is staggering; including an NFC championship.
What has happened to creating turnovers?
Where are McKinney, Gary, Van Ness, Cooper?Valentine played afraid.
I have praised Wyatt for 3-weeks…and rightfully so.
Nice officiating—NOT!
No intentional grounding—no call on a seriously obvious PI by Dallas in OT.
And Parsons being held on virtually every pass rush.
Go Packers!!!

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packrules's picture

September 29, 2025 at 09:57 am

Looking forward to another uninspiring effort after the bye week.

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Packfan67's picture

September 29, 2025 at 10:04 am

Good: Offense scored 40 points (despite all the mistakes, penalties, poor play calls, and poor clock management)
Bad: Defense gave up 40 points (despite Micah Parsons and all the rest of the great talent on D and Mike Haflys "genius" schemes)
Ugly: Special Teams, Special Teams, Special Teams (with the exception of McManus and Whelan)

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2025 at 10:23 am

when MLF was hired, I didnt get it...was he hired cuz he was cheaper than others? No, at the time it was cool to hire these young genius guys like McVay...well how are these young geniuses doing now, ask Mike McDonald and MLF...they are rather average as it played out...

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4thand1's picture

September 29, 2025 at 11:05 am

Good 2,1,1, QB, offense.
Bad 2,1,1, should 4-0.
Ugly 2,1,1 D out coached, ST's WTFWTFWTF! O- line injuries.

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canadapacker's picture

September 29, 2025 at 01:17 pm

Geting tired of Lombardi and others with the fire the coach and with Love is horrible etc. I guess we need to be like the Bears and change head coaches regularily, and then fire the GM and then fire the whole staff and then what. If you think that it is fire anyone it should be Gute - I favor shaking things up by bringing in a special teams advisor or at least - fire the highest paid coach below the HC - We lost to Cleveland because we could not block on a game winning field goal. We probably turned the game around ourselves last night because we gave up 2 points and momentum because we cannot block on an extra point.

Now I am not happy with Lafleur's play calling and think that Love has these kind of arrogant lost mentality out there both with the picks and clock management and getting out of the huddle and especially not taking the open receiver quickly instead of scanning the field when you have a patchwork Oline.

But lets get real folks.

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Since'75's picture

September 30, 2025 at 06:46 am

"We lost to Cleveland because we could not block on a game winning field goal"

We lost to Cleveland because we couldn't deal with their defense.

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canadapacker's picture

September 30, 2025 at 09:05 am

I guess you didnt watch the game - 27 seconds left in the game and we had our field goal blocked - highly unlikely after we kicked off that the Browns would drive down into field goal range. Oh I forgot Rich's great special teams would have allowed a game winning TD on the return. LOL

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Since'75's picture

September 30, 2025 at 08:36 pm

Well, you're probably smarter than i.

I foolishly thought.......

1) That, if a team can only score 10 points for almost the entire game, that could be a contributing factor why a team loses.

2) If your featured back can only gain 30 yards, under 2 YPC for the entire game, that could be a contributing factor why a team loses.

3) If your team commits 14 accepted penalties, that could be a contributing factor why a team loses.

4) If your QB is consistently under pressure, so much so he suffers 5 sacks, that could be a contributing factor why a team loses.

Sometimes....big picture view.
The game is longer than a 3 second attempted field goal.

But what do i know, i probably didn't even watch the game.

Thanks for sharing CP.
It's why i come in here, to learn from fine people such as yourself.

Thank you!

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canadapacker's picture

October 01, 2025 at 07:43 am

I gave you a big thumbs up - and I was totally unhappy with the "team play" - as I said previously elsewhere - I felt that the team played ( including Love" played with arrogance - I know Love was under pressure but he also held the ball too long and the play calling didnt evolve. But in the final analysis - I was not talking about the big picture. In the big picture if they had called the head hit on Nixon's opening kickoff fumble - maybe that game might have turned Packers way. BUT - this was not an early bad call - this was a game winning field goal with 28 seconds left that got blocked and returned and allowed the Browns to win the game. Nice talking - and I am not trying to be sarcastic

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Since'75's picture

October 01, 2025 at 02:59 pm

Yea CP.....
There were a lot of reasons they lost, not excluding poor clock management, and woeful communication at the end.

It might be time for MLF to have a 'short list' of replacements for Bisaccia, if he doesn't already.

Always appreciate a well thought out reply CP.
T Y

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Since'61's picture

September 29, 2025 at 07:11 pm

The Good: Love, Jacobs, Wilson and Doubs.
The Bad: Defense and clock management.
The Ugly: Blocked PAT, Injuries ti /Wyatt and the OL.

Seventh season for MLF and the Packers still play poor situational football. Too many penalties and too many points left off the board. After 3 solid games by the Packers defense poor tackling has raised it ugly head yet again. Thanks, Since '61

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