Taking the blame is what leaders do.
Throwing a pass on 3rd and 3 shouldn’t be a death sentence.
Had they converted, we’d be praising MLF and Love for their aggressiveness.
Losing to the Browns sucked, and MLF has since been accused of being both “too conservative” AND “too aggressive.” No small feat.
Just win, baby.
GPG!

Taking the blame is what leaders do...
I agree TKW but MLF overemphasized it by saying it several times at his presser only made the spotlight on Loves horrific throw increase.

Hopefully this is the one bad game and they can move on against the Cowboys.

There wiill always be a play somewhere that can be criticised. It's just one play. Fans often get hyperfocused on one thing, when it is the totality that matters.

That's why I put blame more on the O line for not protecting Love better - they were awful and it wasn't one play, it was all game.......and that lack of protection affected the QB, as it does to all QBs.

Even if a play by the QB turns out to be a crucial mistake, it is still ONE MISTAKE. Everyone makes them, so what you look for is the overall play. What is important is not whether you make a mistake, it is about how often you do it.

Management has always been focused on
developing and supporting the quarterback.
Especially when they dump their MVPs.
Regardless - the increasing brain farts by Love.
Won't change any time soon.

Everyone on that club knows that Jordan and La Fleur share some blame for that play. These are grown men who likely have been playing football since grade school. They know what's what. Just say its shared blame and move on.

These mealy mouthed mea culpas from La Fleur making him seem dishonest and as someone who does not hold others accountable. Just say I shouldn't have called that play and Jordan shouldn't have thrown the pass and then say "I'm confident we will both do better." Every time he does this I wonder what Lombardi is thinking from the box office in the sky....

LaFleur takes the blame to an extent that is almost ridiculous at times. This is just what he shows for public consumption, though. It's fine as long as he is holding players accountable in private, which I think he is.

In this case, the play call was exactly what most fans want in that situation. Don't just hand off when they've been stuffing the run all day, and don't throw it downfield when you only need to gain a few yards. A nice, safe, short pass to get the first down. Thrown by a QB who hadn't thrown an interception all season.

This one's on Love, as far as I'm concerned. To his credit, he rebounded and led the team into position to kick what should've been a game-winning field goal.

There’s nothing to be gained by publicly trashing your players. Love had a bad game but he wasn’t protected very well

It may not have been the best call in the world but a coach shouldn’t have to remove plays from the playbook because his QB, a fifth year player, might do something stupid. When Love gets pressured, he gets rattled. When he gets rattled he loses his accuracy and starts chucking the ball all over the field without thinking. That’s a big problem.

My question is when will mlf do something about the things he constantly apologizes for?
How many times after a loss to a good team does he say "we'll have to look into that and be better"?
Time management
Challenges
Pre-snap penalties
The window is open. Fix it now.
Pack 34 - jerry's kids 13.
GPG!

I hope this loss was just a fart, GPG!!!!!

"The Dallas Cowboys have seen the video. They have observed how the Cleveland Browns loaded up the box with eight and nine players on most every play against the Packers last Sunday."

Detroit and Washington did the same damn thing and got beaten for their efforts. It is not about scheme, it is about the quality of the defensive line executing that scheme. Detroit's and Washington's DLs weren't good enough to overpower the Packer O-line and Dallas's DL isn't either. Cleveland's DL was more than good enough, assisted by some bonehead coaching decisions by Steno/Butkus (trying to play Tom before he was fully recovered and playing Morgan at a position he had rarely ever practiced).

Most NFL QBs get rattled under pressure and make mistakes. Why do you think rushing the passer is such a big deal in the NFL? I am not at all convinced Love's poise and confidence are any more fragile than a long list of NFL QBs including Goff, Stafford, Tagovailoa, Darnold, etc. etc.. Jordan Love is not at the level of Holmes or Hurts or a few others, but that does not make him fragile or in great need of coaching protection.

Love threw a bad pass under pressure last Sunday. That is going to happen from time to time to Love and most other QBs. Creating a narrative that Cleveland found "the scheme" to unhinge Love is just nuts. Protect Love and give him time to throw and he will be fine, just like most NFL QBs. Detroit and Washington certainly found that out.

So much wrong here.
First thing wrong is we are 3 days before the Cowboy game, why are why reshashing 4 day old rehash?

As i was saying a day or two after the Browns game, it's time to move on here.
But here we are talking about the same things talked about days ago, ad nauseam.
Seems odd we're still discussing this

Fine 🤷‍♂️
I've commented about 'Daddy' taking the blame for his children the other day.

1) When MLF speaks like that, i feel like Packer Nation's intelligence is insulted.

2) MLF takes blame for Love's interception, blaming his play call.
Good for you, you're a good Dad.
That's what you do if you don't want your players to be accountable for their play.

A QB has other options if the throw ISN'T there. We all know this.
Daddy should know it also.
Love isn't a 8 year old boy, playing pee wee football.
He's a grown ass man playing in the NFL who doesn't need his Daddy to excuse his bad play.
C'MON MAN.
Is it time to take off the training wheels?

When Favre did dumb things, Holmgren wasn't shy to call him out.
I don't remember McCarthy making excuses and taking the blame for Rodgers poor play.
Maybe those coaches viewed those QB's as adult men, idk.
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The non accountability doesn't stop there, apparently the O line play is also MLF's fault.
Too many penalties!! Get your act together Daddy!!

We should not except a 1st round pick in his 2nd NFL season to know all the rules of his position.
Those 'fundamentals' are usually taught at pew wee level, grade school, high school, even college i guess.

But Morgans penalties are apparently Daddy's fault.
As he explains, the coaches need to do a better job coaching 'fundamentals'

Must be easy being a Green Bay Packer, it's always the coaches fault.
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Ok, NOW, can we move on to the Cowboys??

Boy oh boy Ken, when I read this, I knew that the entitled town fans would be out in force. The love haters. The Matt LaFleur haters. Hell even the Brian Gutekunst haters.

I understand this is a blog based on fan engagement, but good Lord the best thing to do is not give this type of thought a platform on a silver platter

We have a top 10 coach. We have a top 10 GM. We have a top 10 quarterback. All but a few teams can’t do better. And all, but a few teams would be thrilled to have one of those three.

Those who can’t see that don’t know wider NFL. And are myopic because they only look at Packers football.

Moving on

Taking the heat from the media is what good coaches do. MLF knows he isn't getting fired and knows that the media is always blood thirsty for their headline.

MLF also knows he can't win with the fans when it comes to play calling. If he runs in that situation he will be criticized for not being aggressive enough. If the QB throws an INT he should have ran the ball. Fans will complain anytime the play doesn't succeed so there is reason to argue against it, it is just the nature of the beast.

People buy into pressers too much.
In an industry where information is gold, very little of any real value comes out in pressers.

I would say MLF over- protects his coaches, GM and himself.

Jordan Love was a sitting duck throughout that entire game-Personally, I don't give a rat's patooty that he threw an interception-he was tired of being repeatedly sacked. There are much deeper problems.

GB has a problem with the O-Line and the blame can be spread among many. There were some questionable personnel choices made by the GM-Banks and Morgan-lots of Capital-(77M) and a ? first round pick. This is further complicated by the obvious 'unhappiness' shown by their new Center who had off-season contract issues and 'back pain' which prevented adequate practice, and it was assumed he could then slide into a pivotal role to which he is not suited.
Then one adds a player who was rushed back to save this 'situation' after sustaining a major core injury. When he couldn't pull off a miracle, they played musical chairs with several unprepared back-ups. Throw in a positional coach who is not inspiring, a bunch of penalties, stir in some bad play-calling and lack of preparation for a well-known mighty Defense and voila-you have an unprotected, expensive QB who scrambled all game trying to stay alive. This unsettledness shows very clearly for one and all to see, especially opposing Defensive Coordinators. Expect the O-Line to be targeted all season.

LaFleur's mission? "The last thing he wants is a media and fan storm coming down on his signal caller."

If that is the last thing a HC wants...he's in the wrong job. I believe losing should be the last thing he wants. Love is quite open and self critical while also confident. I understand a coach who does not reprimand publicly, that needs to be done very privately. Praise? Do that publicly,

I watched the pressers from Hafley and Stenovich. What a difference.

One coach is passionate, focused, seeing improvement opportunities, grades specific performance measurements and knows his players. He even will downgrade a play result from a player if he did not execute properly but got lucky due to the opponent making a mistake.

The other coach is staying the course, with an attitude that a poor game with a late collapse as "it happens". Very little urgency. Just have to get better. Penalties? "We tell them to avoid penalties. It's the third game and we will get better." The poor run game blocking 3 straight games? "We have to do a better job next next week." continuing to Morgan around as the swing at T & G? "Yeah, he's probably even more versatile than Elgton and Zach in that role." Really? Since he's not one of his best 5, Morgan is going to be the first guy in to replace G or T...even without reps at all 4 spots during prep week. OK then.

Dusty's analysis, on this site, of that play makes it a little more complicated. He shows that set being used twice before in the game. It is a play with read options it seems. So as a play it was reasonable to think they had the Browns set up to commit against what had been successful and that Love would read the open man if they did the same or did something different. The linebacker broke off his cover at the absolute perfect time. If anything Love did not look him off quite long enough and maybe Wicks did not make his break tight enough. As a play call ok. As execution not as ok, at least by the Pack. The Browns executed perfectly, giving it the same look but then executing differently. It happens that you might get beaten on any given play.

Love seemed determined to throw the ball before thinking or reading the defenders correctly. Not everything coming from the sideline is going to work out. If he had thought first for a split second, he could have pump faked in the direction of the receiver, possibly still being able to move the linebacker to the left--and scooted upfield to gain a little bit of yardage; or as suggested tried to thread the needle to Kraft. The OL afforded him a chance this time, so there should have been a better outcome.

I think MLF is overprotective at times. The team may be young, but they have been to the playoffs twice, so there's not so much of a need to be a mother hen circling the wagon around the chicks.

The offense didn't play well against a top defense. The coaches didn't call/manage the game as well as we would have liked. We lost the darn game...Let's kick the cheese out of the Cowboys and enjoy the upcoming buy.

There's nothing gained at any podium presser, less the same blah, blah, blah, that has most here arguing over it.

"It's my fault".
"I have to be better".
"Have to be better at fundamentals".
"I feel great and ready to go" before the game.
"I wasn't 100%" after a loss.

Some of the most nauseating things spoken at every presser by every team's HC, player etc.

Post-game pressers are for those who need to be placated and protected from the harsh reality recently witnessed and need instant deniability. A safe space, if you will.

I think there are a number of knowledgeable fans who are having misgivings about MLF and his offensive crew.

The saddest thing about "THAT" throw....JL should never forget is that Kraft was then wide open less than a second later because it was the guy covering him that slid off the coverage....something that "SHOULD HAVE" made a light go on for Kraft and immediately pivoted and got the attention of JL...but Kraft did not even turn around.....until the ball was thrown. This was a putrid game by the ML Offense in every way. These are exactly what Packer fans have been subjected to 99% of the time in the first game of the season and after the Bye week.....An anemic Offense with zero energy, poor game plan and lack of any adjustment by ML. The one Kudos is the Defense is bringing it " EVERY WEEK "
and the Offense should be ashamed to be on the field ,not bring the energy the Defense has been. When a team stacks the box and the front 4 are dominant, getting the ball out fast is needed and a lot more screen plays were in order....not only that but our top TE Kraft was a QB and I have yet to see a TE pass or RB pass in the screen scenario...something that would make the opposing Defense have to honor more and open other things up also, because it would have to make them stay with their receiver or pay the price. A winnable game slipped away by a top NFL defense....a litany of mistakes....and a sour feel in the stomach of the entire Defense...Live and learn..
Figure out if you want to be great Offense / ML....GPG...We are still missing a Vet #1 WR...and it shows up weekly.

I don't know if the Packers are still missing a #1 wide receiver or have a quarterback that can't utilize a #1 wide receiver.

I don't see anything wrong with critiques of an Offensive coach who doesn't seem to improve in pivotal areas.
In contrast, there are very few criticisms of Hafley who is doing everything he can to improve & hold himself/players accountable.
The frustrating part for me is that Hafley will likely be recruited to lead another team next year. I wish the Offense/STs could resemble what is happening on the Defense which I feel is the result of coaching and accountability.

I don't understand why they don't use the screen play with Josh Jacobs. It's usually the best way to beat the blitz. Hell the old Packers welcomed the blitz.