Well, the signed part is kind of important.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, NickPerry.

I agree with your sentiments here. How do we extend Davante Adams in that scenario? Kiss him goodbye. How do we extend the Smith Bros. in that scenario? Kiss them goodbye. How do we extend Adrian Amos in that scenario? Kiss him goodbye.

Personally, I don't see AR's return as an option anyway.

You know what no one hears? That the Packers took Jordan Love "because of" Aaron Rodgers. The fact that Mark Murphy was even compelled to say to him, "Don't be a problem," prior to AR's first phone conversation with Matt LaFleur is a window into what kind of problems the team may have been experiencing.

There were battles for control of the offense when LaFleur stepped in. Did they continue to rage without the public, the fan base, being made aware? Quite possibly. We saw plenty signs of that on the sidelines. Did he go off script enough during their most important game together, the NFCC vs. SF to force their hand in picking Jordan Love? Quite possibly. Did he do it again in the NFCC vs. TB? Quite possibly.

We know Aaron, and his ability to hold grudges. He's calculating in his paybacks... and, here we are.

It is a long list of players who adjusted their deals to give this one last go, one last shot to win a Super Bowl. Did Aaron Rodgers? No. Those are hard facts. Trade him now to get your greatest return and move forward.

I believe this Packers team is good enough to go it without him, and win the whole damn thing as they are today. This is a good team. Don't let anybody tell you differently.

Carry the G.

I grew up on a farm, and unless things have changed, I'm pretty sure dead horses don't whinny.

Nay, nay. The horse is not dead - just on the loose and hiding somewhere. Until he (the horse) is back in his paddock - possibly Denver - the vigilance fortunately/unfortunately will continue.

I liked “The Real Quarterbacks of Green Bay” from another commenter.

Definitely, less bleeding - more healing.

As for "As The World Spirals" - it may be morphing into a Greek tragedy - "in which the protagonist, usually a person of importance and outstanding personal qualities, falls to disaster through the combination of a personal failing and circumstances with which he or she cannot deal with".

Considering on how all Greek tragedies end - it's probably best to trade Rodgers before the final act.

I think you underestimate the power of Matt LaFleur seeing what he calls being run on the field, a 4 headed monster at RB in Jones, Dillon, Patrick Jr. and Hill, an improved defense, and a hungry group of players looking to show they belong, including Jordan Love & Amari Rodgers.

Bring it. I have more faith in that than the "Aaron Rodgers: Watch Me Throw Show."

(Not directed at you, LambeauPlain, but thanks for the opening)
This kills me...

Why won't people accept his new future wife does not want to be living in Green Bay, nor traveling half the year to & from Green Bay? Does that make sense?

Is it not a "football enough" reason for you? Grunt. Spit...

Is that not the most simple, reasonable, and readily understandable cause for his 180° spin? Where anyone drafted at QB can try to knock him out? Where he wants to retire with the Packers? Play his entire career here?

It's 180° from what we've known from his previous words, but, damn if it doesn't make the most sense.

Everyone asking "WHY???" What changed? He "got engaged and won the MVP." - Aaron Rodgers

Does it make sense he's trying to assign blame upon the team to deflect it from his future wife? Yes.

He's a player, but he's also human. Rodgers deserves to have a wife, raise a family, like anyone else if they choose. Maybe they see it being nearly impossible for them with him playing for the Packers, committing to more than 179 days per year in Green Bay. Maybe that just doesn't work.

As a fan, I won't begrudge him wanting to leave because his life has changed. Not one bit. But, let's stop knocking the hell out of the Packers organization, and start getting on with the business of football.

She's from Boulder. A half hour drive from the Broncos stadium. He's a legend here. Help him. Accommodate him. Get a fair deal in trade and go win the Super Bowl with Jordan Love. This could prove serendipitous.

PS. No articles to corroborate this, but, all of his recent actions certainly do. It makes one hell of a lot of sense.

As you know, Flackcatcher, I tend to agree with much that you are saying. That said, however, to me mini camp is a the first significant waypoint. The first compulsory event and the first opportunity to be a leader to the new players. If you are serious about winning, you are there as QB.

If Rodgers doesn’t turn up then I think the chances of a rapprochement go down very significantly. At that point Rodgers clearly isn’t budging on something. Gute? Money (the only true guarantee). I’ve heard a no trade clause but that doesn’t protect against injury and decline and thus being cut at a time his health or acumen puts him in a weak condition?

If Rodgers wants more cap percentage, I’d say we are done unless he agrees to play and be traded next off season. Why would he though? A year older, his current MVP is not likely to repeat and that also assumes comparable health in terms of availability and play quality.

Another often floated canard is Rodgers playing for 5 years and more. At his age, there is no guarantee that he can. A few years ago there were real doubts about his shoulder, concussions. They were overblown thus far but can’t be forgotten. And then there is the factor if arm strength. That will go at some point, none of us know when.

Put the two together and any extended guarantee that has teeth is likely monetary and this rooted in cap. If Rodgers wants 3 or more more years, there is a good chance we get an lite QB for one, maybe two. After that the odds go down fast. There is also a chance we don’t even get that.

If a guaranteed Rodgers goes down or his play does, the Packers will be in dire cap trouble. The effect on the roster wouldn’t end till his deal does. By that point we are not just bad but awful. Ironically, if Love or another turns out to be good we will be surrounding him with nothing because we are tied to Rodgers until he decides otherwise.

Even without that, Rodgers will be playing this year with likely the best roster he will have in future because he will reduce the ability to retain or recruit. Rodgers couldn’t lift us before, if he couldn’t lift us last year, why will he do so older and with less talent?

I know it’s unpleasant but ignoring the downside doesn’t make it go away. If Rodgers had simply accepted a restructure the team might have been able to add a player. If Rodgers returns on his existing he’s closed that door, but still had a darn good roster this year. If he wants more, I think he only hurts the chance of winning even this year.

The probability is that this approach has either removed or shortened Rodgers’ window to win it for GB if it’s a money guarantee thing. Unless the relationship can be resolved without further burdening our future, a one year and trade agreement would be ideal. Failing that, reluctantly, it’s Love or bust because retention will undermine the roster. It’s sucks but better to face it than not long term.

If Rodgers does not want monetary guarantees then he needs to back down and take his best window at another Super Bowl. He’s not a character one wants determining players. The team should any way say no. Gute may be replaceable but he’s done nothing real that’s wrong. Calling for him to be fired (even by back channels) is not appropriate or to be rewarded and not would it make any difference to our chances this year or maybe really next.

So it’s up to Rodgers. Win or make more money? Be made to look right or have a chance to prove your doubters wrong and win a second Super Bowl. If you believe, you will end up Richer and have more control ( even if you don’t win Bowl or MVP but just play well in big games), if you don’t, well maybe Love isn’t such a bad option after all.

"I know many Packer fans and Rodgers is losing the PR contest."

You are so right. My 85 yo father-in-law is a no-nonsense Packers fan. His take on Rodgers' crap is, and I quote "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

Before April 1, my f-i-l loved Rodgers.

Absolutely Not! Rodgers has stated his desire to remain with one team in his career. That's the Packers! He doesn't want to be traded, he wants to stay in GB. All he's doing is using what leverage he has right now, coming off an MVP season to get what he wants! To end his career in GB and if possible win another SB.

Trading him now is accepting a discount on a trade. Maximum value is next offseason when as many as 10 teams would be interested in trading for a HOF QB. Not now when one or two teams might make an offer!

Take your emotions out of it! It's a business stance by both Rodgers and the Packers right now. Nothing more.

Interesting...very interesting.

I agree with you, with all of what you say, except the last sentence.

He’s leveraged out now, really. Maybe I’m wrong, Stroh, but it looks like you’re really only considering this from AR’s perspective.

For some losing Rodgers is losing the Packers, as it was with Favre. The Packers are just their idol’s team. They don’t care about anything other than him playing on a good team. They will give Rodgers anything.

Some believe that Rodgers, after being MVP last year, is immune from age, injury and decline at least as long as Brady. There is very little basis for believing that. It’s not impossible, just very very improbable, to the point where no rational GM/FO would bet on it, let alone mortgage the Franchise for years.

The solution was the current agreement. Reworking for cap is Rodgers neutral. That doesn’t change things, but it’s the sole viable way to extend Rodgers window with the Packers and not cripple the roster now and after. IF that’s what he is demanding, then the relationship should be over.

Well, then clearly you're not "some people"! ;)

There have also been allegations of the Krafts sneaking his family money under the table...

And I think this bothers him. This is why he did the Mayne interview.

Coldworld, we know that Rodgers wants some level of security to remain as the Packers starting QB. I would offer him 2-3 years with an option to go year by year after that if he is still performing at a high level. If we made that offer and he refuses then I would trade him ASAP while we can still get a good return and before he decides to retire and we get nothing for him. Thanks, Since '61

If they trade this year the problem is cap and collateral. The best deal is likely if a contender loses their starter. If I was the FO, I’d sit tight and move ahead on all cylinders on Path B. Of course Rodgers could retire to block the trade, but how he would recover reputation from that I am not sure.

How many buyers are there? According to most verifiable reports--none. People talk about Denver, but there have been no calls.

That's a serious downer on his trade value.

Nothing will heat up until after the start of minicamp, if anything. If ARod doesn't show, some teams will hope the Packers will fire-sale him.

Where is the implied hindsight? I spoke of foresight which the FO failed to see or ignorantly ignored as to Rodgers' unhappiness, dismay, or perceived temper tantrum when the FO made the decision on Love being drafted, depending on one's view. Wouldn't the personal feelings of any star QB be part of the decision since they do play a huge part in the symbiotic circle of the franchise, where what affects one affects all? Surely whatever the FO did or does that needs to be accounted for with more emphasis than appears to have been, regardless of the side we fans take alone, together, or wagon hoppers.

I find I disagree with almost every assumption based on what we do or don’t know. To assume a contract will be fulfilled is not illogical. If Rodgers told them he wouldn’t prior to last season or even after the loss, maybe I’d give a little credence, particularly the former. Actions and whispers seem to suggest he did not. I fear sir, though you are a true Packers devotee with out doubt, you are clutching at straws.

So are most agents.