Why the Packers Should Stand Pat at the NFL Trade Deadline
By GilMartin
The Green Bay Packers enter Week 9 with the best record in the NFC at 5-1-1. The team believes it can win the Super Bowl this year. While they haven’t played many dominant games so far, their record and the state of the competition indicate the Packers have to be considered one of the top contenders right now. So, what should GM Brian Gutekunst do with the NFL trade deadline coming early next week? Despite the temptation to fill needs, the Packers should stand pat at the NFL trading deadline next week barring a major surprise.
The team’s biggest need right now is at cornerback. The Packers moved on from former first round picks Jaire Alexander and Eric Stokes over the offseason. They signed Nate Hobbs as a free agent but so far, he hasn’t worked out very well. Hobbs spent most of his time with the Raiders in the slot, but the Packers signed him believing he could also play on the boundary. That hasn’t worked out through the first half of the season. Injuries have played a role, but through the first half of the season, it looks like Hobbs’ best role remains the slot.
The other players on the roster who can start on the boundary are Keisean Nixon and Carrington Valentine. Nixon has been the team’s top cover corner this season. Valentine provides the team with a more physical option on the boundary. He works hard and has come a long way since being selected in the seventh round of the 2023 NFL Draft. But neither of these players can be considered legitimate shutdown cornerbacks.
The Packers pass defense currently ranks 15th in the league in passing yards allowed per game. However, if either Valentine or Nixon were to miss significant time with injuries, the Packers would have to rely on Hobbs to play extensive minutes as the boundary corner and that is less than ideal.
The Green Bay pass rush helps make things easier for the secondary. Because they get consistent pressure on quarterbacks, the defensive backs don’t have to cover as long as many other teams and can concentrate on taking away short passes.
But come playoff time, when the Packers will be facing elite quarterbacks and receivers, will this secondary be good enough, even if the current cornerbacks all stay healthy? It’s a tough question to answer right now and the team’s situation is less than ideal.
But if the Packers were to trade for a cornerback, who would be available and what would the cost be? The Packers already traded away their first-round picks in 2026 and 2027 in the Micah Parsons trade. Gutekunst still prefers to build through the draft, so trading away another high draft pick would be unlikely.
The Packers do have a deep receiving corps, but would they trade away players like Dontayvion Wicks or Romeo Doubs for a cornerback? And what would they realistically expect in return. Doubs has great chemistry with quarterback Jordan Love and has played a large role in the offense this season. Wicks have another season left on his contract after this year and may not be enough to get a difference maker at cornerback in return.
The bigger issue, however, is that according to most sources, there just aren’t any cornerbacks available who could give the Packers an upgrade over their present top three players at the position. A minor trade to add depth for a late, day-three pick may be possible, but that wouldn’t be an upgrade, it would be more like an insurance policy.
One of the few boundary corners who are allegedly available is Cincinnati’s Cam Taylor-Britt, who isn’t even starting for the Bengals. The former second-round pick will also be an unrestricted free agent during the offseason and Gutekunst won’t want to give up much for a player who will likely only be in Green Bay for half a season.
The other cornerbacks who are allegedly on the market all predominantly play in the slot. Between Hobbs and Javon Bullard, the Packers are well stocked there.
Ultimately, the lack of available players at the position that is the Packers biggest need combined with a lack of ammunition to offer in a trade limits the likelihood of a big trade at the deadline. A minor move is possible, as is the possibility of trading away a player to add a pick or a minor play for player swap.
The worst thing Gutekunst can do is make a trade for the sake of making a trade. If the opportunity arises where he could improve the team at the deadline, he will try to make a move. But right now, that doesn’t seem likely.
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Comments (71)
dobber
November 01, 2025 at 10:05 am
"The bigger issue, however, is that according to most sources, there just aren’t any cornerbacks available who could give the Packers an upgrade over their present top three players at the position. A minor trade to add depth for a late, day-three pick may be possible, but that wouldn’t be an upgrade, it would be more like an insurance policy."
This is the consensus around the pundits who are trying to project what the Packers might do. There will be plenty of teams sniffing around the CB market making the cost of finding an upgrade prohibitive. BG has already made his splash that way...there's not a lot of water left in his pool.
Some people are espousing the "player for CB" idea, maybe moving Doubs or Enagbare. That's mostly fantasy football thinking and needs to be put to rest. Meaningful player for player trades just don't happen much at the deadline.
The kind of acquisition Gil is talking about (a depth or rotational piece) is likely an older veteran occupying a spot on someone's practice squad who can be signed to the 53 without giving away draft picks or players.
"They signed Nate Hobbs as a free agent but so far, he hasn’t worked out very well. Hobbs spent most of his time with the Raiders in the slot, but the Packers signed him believing he could also play on the boundary. That hasn’t worked out through the first half of the season."
I think they signed Hobbs seeing a piece that could transition in much the same way that Nixon did--there are a lot of similarities between the two--but the difference was that Nixon had limited defensive snaps with the Raiders and Hobbs had played quite a bit. I think it's still possible that Hobbs transitions into a playable CB in a zone-heavy scheme in GB, but they can't wait as long as they did for Nixon to see if Hobbs can grow into the role (remember Nixon only a part-time defensive player in Vegas and in his first year in GB).
If there's going to be a deal, I'm still pulling for a DT.
Racingdad
November 01, 2025 at 10:48 am
While another DT would make sense , I believe if Wyatt stays healthy , wooden has progressed , brooks playing well and the two rookies growing we should be fine.I would much rather we go after Jackson powers Johnson from raiders he would be a center and guard backup this year while learning our system for next year and can than take over at center next year . He was pick 44 in 24 so cheap thru 27 . Rumored to be availbe for a fourth or maybe wicks ? That would make sense remember GB saves 20 million cap by moving Jenkins after this season and will need the cap space
splitpea1
November 01, 2025 at 11:14 am
Sebastian Joseph-Day? I don't know what the price would be, but if it's reasonable, the temporary insurance/fix would be worth it.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 01:48 pm
Certainly don't deal away Doubs or Enegbare, but Heath Wicks or even Musgrave? It's hard to imagine not having enough targets between now and the SB, and while I like the idea of #88 not being targeted yet simply to be able to surprise teams in the playoffs, if he's not able to contribute getting a rotational piece at DT or CB could improve the team. I've always loved Heath but the same logic applies. Do we really need Wicks "competing for targets," or are we deep enough without him? All our RBs are viable targets and we should target #8 more. We're not limited to one TE who can catch.
I doubt Gutey makes a move, but these players plus one kicker if we can't keep two might be viable trade pieces.
KenEllis
November 01, 2025 at 11:00 am
With another article headlined "Realistic Trade Deadline Targets for the Packers!!!" on the same page, I understand this "Why the Packers Should Stand Pat at the NFL Trade Deadline" is a clickbait article that only the late Ted Thompson would likely agree with, but I'll bite. GB is one CB injury away from having to start Ladarius Hobbs at boundary corner and, as every Packer fan, player, coach, and even the GM now knows, that is a disaster waiting to happen.
Philly is 6-2 and ... just traded for a CB. The LA Rams are 5-2 and ... just traded for a CB. SF is 5-3 and ... traded for a DE (after losing Nick Bosa). For those paying attention, Philly, SF, and the F' them picks Rams are NFC teams that have appeared in multiple Super Bowls over the past decade while the stand pat Packers have appeared in none.
Getting a legitimate backup boundary CB in case Valentine or Nixon are injured is imperative and it would not take a 2nd or 3rd round pick so the pearl clutching but we must only build through the draft crowd would not have to soil themselves if Gutey did part with more draft capital to improve the 2025 PACKER'S CHANCES OF GETTING TO AND WINNING A SUPER BOWL.
In addition,, neither Wicks (behind Doubs, Watson, Golden, and soon to be Reed and not much ahead of Heath) nor Musgrave (fewer snaps and no better receiving production than blocking TE Fitzpatrick) serve any role on the offense any longer, so if Gutey wants to recoup a Day 3 pick or two, ship them out.
Standing pat when it comes to trading for players is what GB did for 15 seasons after winning the 2010 Super Bowl. Gutey finally put that tired and ineffective strategy to bed with the Parsons trade. Hope he ignores the author's pining for the glory days of post-2010 TT never trading picks for players, and does what our competitors' are doing - improving the roster for a 2025 Super Bowl run.
Go Pack Go.
GregC
November 01, 2025 at 12:58 pm
I don't think this is a clickbait article. Sometimes people have different opinions, and I have no problem with this site posting articles that don't agree with each other. I'm not convinced the Packers could swing a deal for a starting caliber CB for less than a second or third round pick. If Gutey can do that, all the power to him, but it may not be possible. I noticed that you didn't mention any names.
On a side note, I don't think Dontayvion Wicks has no role in the offense. He's been injured, and with all the injuries they've had at WR this year, he may still be an important player. At the very least, he will be part of the WR rotation again. He's a lot better than Malik Heath.
KenEllis
November 01, 2025 at 02:48 pm
In reply to my post about trading a late round pick for a backup CB to provide depth behind Valentine and Nixon (like our principal NFC competitors have done) you posted that you are "not convinced the Packers could swing a deal for a starting caliber CB for less than a second or third round pick".
I noticed your post about trading SECOND or THIRD round picks for a STARTING CALIBER CB has ZERO to do with what I posted.
As for potential CB acquisitions, Cheesehead TV has a video up from Andy Herman that is devoted entirely to potential trade targets - including multiple CBs. Might be worth checking out before intimating that there are simply no CBs available for the Pack to possibly acquire.
Finally, on a side note, Wicks has 13 catches for 134 yards (on 20 targets) this season, while Heath has 5 catches (on 5 targets) for 75 yards, so we'll just have to agree to disagree that Dontayvion is (a) a lot better than Heath and (b) will ever be an important part of the Packer WR rotation behind Doubs, Watson, Golden, and (when he returns) Reed.
Wicks is in my opinion a JAG with no future in GB and if Gutey could get a draft pick in a trade, I'd be all for it.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:32 pm
As the article points out, there are no starting caliber outside cornerbacks available. Hobbs has always been a decent slot guy, and a lousy outside guy. The only way Hobbs helps is if Bullard gets injured and he can take over the slot. fortunately, the Packers made the contract one that they can get out of after one year without much damage. Wish they had done the same with Aaron Banks.
DoubleJ
November 02, 2025 at 06:51 am
"Wish they had done the same with Aaron Banks."
When you look at the Banks contract, the Packers can get out from it after one year. The Packers can save $4.6M next year by cutting him pre June 1.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 01:55 pm
Without Wicks AND Heath would we be hurting for targets? Add Musgrave and one kicker and we've got substantial chips to trade with.
Starrbrite
November 01, 2025 at 09:46 pm
You’re singing my song KenEllis. Sitting on your hands is for losers.
Guam
November 02, 2025 at 06:59 am
The CB Philly traded for was Jaire Alexander. Philly gave up a sixth rounder and got Jaire and a seventh rounder back from Baltimore in what was clearly a salary dump for the Ravens. Did Philly really get better or did they just get worse?
KenEllis
November 02, 2025 at 07:57 am
Nope.
My post pertained to Philly acquiring CB Michael Carter in a trade with the Jets on October 29 and was made before Philly acquired another CB (Jaire) in a trade yesterday. It looks like Philly intends to trade for a DE as well before Tuesday's deadline expires.
As for whether Philly really got better or just got worse, that remains to be seen.
However, given that Philly's GM is in charge of a roster that is currently 6-2 and has been to 3 Super Bowls over the prior 8 years, I suspect that the Eagles believe they got better.
Now, how many years have we watched the Packers STAND PAT at the trade deadline, not get better, and not make a Super Bowl?
And, like the author of the article, do Packer fans really think STANDING PAT at CB will make that position acceptable?
Guam
November 02, 2025 at 08:16 am
The Eagles also gave up a WR (Metchie) to get Carter as well as a swap of late round picks. They weakened one position to get better at another. Carter didn't come for free. Are they better? I'm sure they think so since their secondary was a disaster. Time will tell whether it was an actual improvement. That is always the risk with player swaps.
KenEllis
November 02, 2025 at 08:57 am
So an NFL team in Philly made a trade for a player and the player "didn't come free." Learn somethin' new every day.
I guess Green Bay should never acquire players from another team then because they, by definition, never come for free.
Course, the Packers not only gave up 2 1st round picks to acquire Micah Parsons, they traded DT Kenny Clark. In other words, Parsons didn't come to GB for free.
The Packers also weakened one position DT to get better at another Edge. The horror.
Are the Packers better?
While the Pack and most NFL fans with 2 eyes seem to think so, I'm sure there are still some among the STAND PAT and never, ever acquire a player from another team because they don't come free crowd who remain in a twist over the Parsons' trade.
Oh, and Philly's secondary was not a disaster, they have 2 fine CBs in Mitchell and DeJean, but they are trying to win aNOTHER SB and decided they needed a third CB.
You are obviously thrilled with Nixon, Valentine, Hobbs and whomever it is that plays behind them at CB, but other Packer fans eager to return to a SB for the first time in 15 years do not share your optimism about the CB room.
Guam
November 02, 2025 at 09:08 am
I take it you don't like civil discourse and disagreement?
If you have read other comments of mine, you would know that I have advocated for trading Enagbare or Doubs for help at CB. Giving up players the Packers are likely to lose in free agency this offseason makes sense to me. And I supported the Parsons trade. What I don't like is the trading of more high draft choices for players the Packers likely can't afford to keep long term for a one shot effort at a Super Bowl.
The Packers have many key players coming up for free agency this off season (Q. Walker, Wyatt, Rhyan, Doubs, Enagbare, R. Walker) and the Packers will need replacements. I think this year and the future need to be balanced in a decision to trade.
KenEllis
November 02, 2025 at 09:34 am
Love civil discourse, but do not like posters who misrepresent posts (claiming my reference to Philly's trade for Carter referred to the Jaire trade that had not even occurred when I initially posted) and then, when their post is exposed as demonstrably false, resort to deflecting by raising a non sequitur -- that trading for players entails costs (either players or draft picks) as if everyone reading and commenting on the article is not already aware of that reality.
In passively playing the victim above, you again resort to misinformation as I never advocated trading "more high draft choices", but instead advocated acquiring a backup boundary CB to Valentine and Nixon who would not cost "a 2nd or 3rd round pick", and specifically referenced the Eagles and Rams acquiring CBs for late round pick swaps.
As for trading Enagbare or Doubs for CB help, I respectfully disagree with that not indefensible position as they are both positively contributing to the success of the 2025 Packers and their absence would adversely impact this year's team's attempt to reach a Super Bowl.
However, as I mentioned above, I would have no problem trading non-contributors (in my view) Wicks or Musgrave to acquire a player who might help the G&G in 2025 or even for a future draft pick.
Guam
November 02, 2025 at 09:53 am
I did not intentionally misrepresent your post about the Eagles CB. I was unaware of the Carter trade and assumed you referenced the Alexander trade. My error, but my post did not assault your viewpoint. I just questioned whether the Eagles got better with that trade.
And speaking of misinformation, I never advocated for no trades or not acquiring Parsons as you alleged. And I never resorted to sarcasm to attack your character ("the horror").
I will chalk this up to some misunderstandings on both our parts, but you might want to reflect on some of your word choices.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:05 pm
Plus we don't know if our depth behind Nate Hobbs (Bo Melton and Kamal Hadden, plus at least a couple others) aren't better on the outside than Nate Hobbs is currently. I wouldn't be upset with Gutey rolling the dice and getting someone that proves to be of equal caliber; same with DT. Depth / rotational pieces at these positions would not hurt, and just might prove to make all the difference in the world in the playoffs.
PackfanNY
November 01, 2025 at 11:01 am
No way you can say the Packers should stand pat or make moves unless you know what exact deals might be out there and for WHAT. This is why we have a GM. I’ll let Gute decide if any moves should be made. Honestly I don’t expect a “big” move simply because our draft assets are depleted. I think he looks for depth around the fringes for backup help.
NFLfan
November 01, 2025 at 11:13 am
Gute is the guy who left the Corner Room very thin- we knew it months ago and it has proven to be a gamble that may have serious consequences. It already has though the Packers have been able to compensate. That ability will be challenged by better teams/elite receivers.
WestCoastPackerBacker
November 01, 2025 at 07:10 pm
Have you noticed that several of the winning teams in this league are looking for starters or depth at CB? It’s not some kind of GM malpractice; there’s not enough of those guys around. Same with offensive line. Every team has issues.
PhantomII
November 01, 2025 at 07:34 pm
Fortunately GB needs DL / CB / OL / WR1 / TE2....any would help.
Starrbrite
November 01, 2025 at 09:46 pm
Exactly!
coolhand
November 01, 2025 at 12:09 pm
If a corner or run stuffer would be available we should look into it, but don't overpay. On a side note, da Bears are so desperate for OL help they signed Royce Newman to their PS, LOL
PhantomII
November 01, 2025 at 03:05 pm
Overpay.....Really, are we trying to get top talent to WIN? That's where I'm at after waiting 15 years AFRAID to move up and draft the right players or pay a few bucks for an Elite upgrade. We are in a Window and NOW is when we make the team better at it's weak points to push GB into the show. Parsons was a big START....I'll just say DL STUD / CB STUD or Offense OL STUD / WR1 STUD / TE2 to put next to KRAFT. Any of those would help a bunch and a OFFENSE and Defense bump of any of those choices I believe would be enough to get it done, some would be more beneficial, but any 2 would work.
Guam
November 02, 2025 at 08:04 am
And you would be complaining bitterly next year about Gute's inability to field a quality team just after winning the Super Bowl.
The Packers list of potential free agents after this season is frightening - Quay Walker, Wyatt, Rhyan, Doubs, Ebagbare, and Rasheed Walker - and they already don't have a first round draft choice to help with replacements. Trading away more high draft choices for short term rentals with the impending holes after this season is a poor decision and Gute knows it.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:10 pm
Not going to get any of those because there are none available.
TarynsEyes
November 01, 2025 at 12:54 pm
It seems that the fan base is developing doubt as to the legitimacy of this team. The Parsons trade was heralded as the one that put GB in the SB, but it didn't resolve the issues completely, if at all, really.
Sure, they will win more games, but they still do not present enough to win the games that must be won. The record says 5-1-1, but it looks more like 3-3-1.
The Parsons trade was of the thinking that the pass rush improvement would help the secondary, that has proven to be against certain teams as true, but it hasn't as an overall. This is what this team has and will go as far as it can with its issues that were there in preseason.
Cross your fingers, because it won't take much to undo.
LLCHESTY
November 01, 2025 at 04:52 pm
Ray of sunshine as always.
TarynsEyes
November 01, 2025 at 05:00 pm
A dose of reality, as usual, and if it isn't, why are so many worried about the needs of this team still, and not totally fine where they're at.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:34 pm
Your reality.
dobber
November 01, 2025 at 06:33 pm
Everyone has their own...
stockholder
November 01, 2025 at 01:18 pm
Trade for the DL that wants to come to the packers.
Because if you think Wyatt isn't going to get hurt.
Think Again.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:35 pm
Derp. Stockholder can predict the future.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:15 pm
He accepted the deal offered by a telemarketer for an extended warranty on his crystal ball.
gsd3
November 01, 2025 at 02:37 pm
I would like to see CB, IOL, and d-line upgraded.
Jackson Powers-Johnson would upgrade all three interior spots. Also step right into the center spot in 2026.
Cam Taylor - Britt would at least push for a starting spot at corner. If nothing else, would considerably raise the floor.
Sebastian Joseph - Day would provide an upgrade in the DT rotation.
Michael Mayer would be a better blocking upgrade over Musgrave at TE2.
Players we could part with and probably not notice would be Musgrave, Wicks, Rhyan, and Oladapo.
LLCHESTY
November 01, 2025 at 04:55 pm
Rhyan has been better than Morgan, especially run blocking, in all but one game. As the season goes on I expect to see Rhyan on the field more even if he doesn't have a future in Green Bay. Winning games is more important than getting Morgan snaps. Morgan's blocking on double teams is 🤢
gsd3
November 02, 2025 at 06:11 am
Makes me wonder...just what is the plan for Morgan moving forward? Everything they say is he is a LT. Competition for and eventual replacement for Walker. Then they play him at guard. IMO Rhyan is the better guard. Morgan, as well as Belton - LT in college should be working as swing tackles. If anyone should be taking snaps at guard, Belton would seem to be the better fit as a flat out people mover.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:21 pm
I do believe the hope is for Jordan Morgan to start at LT next season, and giving him snaps at RT is just to get him experience. I agree it's more important to win games now and Sean Rhyan has been better at least in run blocking.
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2025 at 06:45 am
I don't see evidence Rhyan has been better. For example, he took 35 snaps last Sunday vs Morgan's 29. PFF actually rated Morgan as their 2nd highest ranked player after Kraft on Sunday allow zero pressures and a "solid run blocking grade."
I simply do not understand Stenovich and "We Don't Have Enough Depth" Butkus playing another OL game of musical chairs at RG. Just does not make sense.
Unless the Packers wanted to showcase Rhyan as trade bait...because so far, his play has been excitingly unexciting after 4 years of trying to earn the starting spot. Average RG for depth...and many teams would be interested in that piece to agree give up a 2nd string CB or DT.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:25 pm
Agreed that Sean Rhyan is about average, on average. Sometimes a very good run blocker.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:39 pm
"Players we could part with and probably not notice would be Musgrave, Wicks, Rhyan, and Oladapo." Those are also players that nobody else would give much, if anything, for. Trade Rhyan - what if Morgan gets hurt. Trade Musgrave, what if Kraft misses some games. same with wicks. So many wanted to trade Doubs because we had so much depth. then the injuries hit and Doubs has been very valuable.
gsd3
November 02, 2025 at 06:15 am
Rhyan is a starting caliber guard. Wicks is caught in a log jam at Wr. Same with Oladapo at safety. Musgrave is all potential. Teams that run a big slot would likely be interested.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:30 pm
Trading Musgrave Wicks and Heath would be on the basis that they don't help us anyway. I like the idea that MLF has been holding #88 out just to be able to surprise teams in the playoffs, but I have no reason to think that's true, it's just wishful thinking. At his best did he bring anything we don't have elsewhere on the roster? Plus I doubt we keep two kickers, so that's 4 players to trade. Won't get a starter, but might get rotational depth at DT and/ or CB. I'd love to see JPJ in the Green and Gold!
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:18 pm
I'm almost in agreement with you but I think we should keep Sean Rhyan this season, and if we turned Wicks and Heath into a position of need the team might get better.
PhantomII
November 01, 2025 at 02:53 pm
Wrong Gil.....Do you want to win a Championship or blow another post season game.
Next level needs DEFENSE:
DL starter level player with run stop ability as well as some pass rush juice.
CB starter upgrade which would give us a little depth there.
ideal needs OFFENSE:
OL Center starting level/ solid backup ability.
TE2 a starting level player behind Kraft in case he gets hurt or spell him a bit.
WR1 Stud no questions catch everything guy with elite hands and speed (dream acquisition).
RB2 not as big a need as Wilson stepped up pretty big, but a scary skilled change of pace would be cool.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:32 pm
No one like any of that is available. JPJ maybe ...
Susieq
November 01, 2025 at 03:47 pm
The Packers should stand pat because the GM "Gutey" has destroyed a team that had gone 42 wins and 11 losses - best record in the entire NFL over that period - until the 4 time MVP and Super Bowl winning Super Bowl MVP broke his thumb.
In the years leading up to that 42-10 span that ended in October 2022, "Gutey" prevented those 2018-2022 Packers team - that was on the brink of multiple Super Bowl appearances - from accomplishing the team's goals by disrespecting its veteran star players and thus destroying team chemistry and not adding the offensive weapons in the draft that the team needed.
Poor Jordan has been over his head from the start and should have been a 3rd or 4th rounder.
Nice guy, but Jordan's mediocre 22-16-1 record as a starter (I credit Malik with the Jaguar win last year) is only that good because of the play calling genius of Lafleur - Murphy's choice - who has to work with what he was left with .
The true tests come about when the season is on the line against superior teams and Lafleur can no longer use - Aaron Jones, now Jacobs - and some terrific Yards after catch receivers and tight ends that carry Jordan like Rodgers carried the entire Packer team and Gutekunst - saving his job.
Poor Jordan when the season was on the line has graced us with 72.4 passer rating and a 2 interception 4th quarter against the 49ers making yet another mindless throw reminiscent of his all of college football - both FCS and FBC - leading interceptions - and then last year, even worse, 41.5 passer rating and 3 interceptions against the Eagles with the season once again on the line - big time chokes.
Do not be fooled by the 5-1-1 start. The Steelers rank 32nd - in passing yards surrendered per game. The Cowboys rank 31st - in passing yards surrendered per gameThe Bengals rank 28th - in passing yards surrendered per gameThe Commanders rank 26th - in passing yards surrendered per gameThe Cardinals rank 25th - in passing yards surrendered per game
In other words, Jordan this year - thus far - has faced the weakest pass defenses in the NFL.
The Browns rank 5th - in passing yards surrendered per game. What happened there.
And to compound the RECORD contact after Jordan held out and held Gutey's feet to the fire, Gutey in desperation gave away the Packers run defense - in TJ Slaton and Kenny Clark - not to mention 2 first round draft picks - for a player that excels as a pass rusher but is a liability against the run. Before the Steelers moved away from their jumbo package last week in the 2nd half - due to the loss of guard Issac Seumalo to injury in the first half - they were running over the Packers defense.
As a die hard Packer fan, it is obvious what has happened despite the NFL's promotional propaganda.
Unfortunately I think it is going to be a long time before we see another Super Bowl.
So RESTRAIN "Gutey" before he does more damage.
Spock
November 01, 2025 at 04:30 pm
Wow. You appear to be living in an alternate reality ("Poor Jordan has been over his head from the start and should have been a 3rd or 4th rounder." "...not to mention 2 first round draft picks - for a player that excels as a pass rusher but is a liability against the run."",,, GM "Gutey" has destroyed a team..."). This is the most ignorant post I've seen on CHTV this year.
HarryHodag
November 01, 2025 at 05:42 pm
I agree Spock. Lots of clickbait, unsupported by facts across the spectrum.
The Packers don't operate in a vacuum and all other teams in the NFL face similar issues.
The current Packers are much closer to the top than the bottom, and that is personnel development. Some think this team is equivalent to the Raiders and they are wrong.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:41 pm
SusieQ is a troll. desperate for attention.
dobber
November 01, 2025 at 06:43 pm
Cut and paste diatribe from other sites
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:39 pm
Used to make decent comments.
GregC
November 01, 2025 at 07:03 pm
Everything about this post screams "AI."
Ya_tittle
November 02, 2025 at 12:04 am
You are on drugs.
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2025 at 07:05 am
What planet are you from and how long will you be visiting, "Susieq"? (Is "Gutey" supposed to be accented with dripping disdain when spoken? It seems you have "Issues".)
For those with facts, google or access to AI, you will see Rodgers first two years as starter was 17-15. Most great QBs are drafted thoughtfully but also developed. Packers have been the best in the NFL at this for 2 decades when most teams (bares) rush rookies to start and watch them fail and their careers fall far short.
Most GMs in the NFL rank "Gutey" in the top 5 in the NFL according to a survey a few weeks ago.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:36 pm
Sorry but you're nuts. JL10's stats are better than AR's at the same point of their careers. He's fine! And AR12 never carried the team to a SB, the team that won it was arguably better than the roster right now.
HarryHodag
November 01, 2025 at 03:49 pm
Trades mean the Packers have to give up something, mainly a quality player or draft picks. Can the team afford to lose players or more draft picks in 2026?
They've proven they can lose to a weak team(Cleveland) but also proved they can beat a really good team(Detroit). One player at this time very likely will not be a difference maker. The current team needs to gel and good things will come.
Spock
November 01, 2025 at 03:50 pm
In other news (from Packers team site): Packers sign LB Kristian Welch to active roster
Green Bay places LB Nick Niemann on IR; elevates DL Arron Mosby for gameday
Starrbrite
November 01, 2025 at 10:05 pm
I like Welch—he’s steady.
Bitternotsour
November 01, 2025 at 10:48 pm
He's a good man, and thorough
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2025 at 07:08 am
Too bad for Niemann. I was seeing why Gutey acquired him. He was an immediate super charger on STs. He was everywhere.
Snap the ball
November 01, 2025 at 04:56 pm
Rogers fell into our lap we didn’t draft him… it was the obvious choice.
However so was TJ Watt but we went with Kevin king. Serious. Mark Murphy should have said No Ted. No …
In the 49ers playoff loss at home Kyle S went right after him so did Tom Brady good old Kevin king …..
That’s when we could have won back to back Super bowls and they blew it.
You don’t realize how good Rogers was …. They blew it….
As far as Banks goes time to get after it and play good ball. Your pad like it. Block ….
Hobbs was having a good camp and MLF said slow down. So he did.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:43 pm
LOL. 23 teams passed on Rodgers (not Rogers). GM already had Favre, had tons of needs elsewhere, but was wise enough and had the balls to take the next Packers HOF QB.
dblbogey
November 01, 2025 at 05:45 pm
Most actual Packers fans can spell Rodgers correctly. LOL. Hobbs lousy play is because MLF said slow down? LOL.
joejetson
November 01, 2025 at 06:32 pm
Reality Check-
People clamoring for "Starting Caliber" cornerbacks, D-linemen, O-linemen, etc.
You have already traded away your 1st Round draft picks for the next TWO years, and you want to give up even more draft capital for players other teams would be willing to part with?
These other teams are trying to build their own rosters, not act as a farm team for GB. They're not going to just give you quality starters for some backup from the tail end of your roster, or a low round draft pick.
Of course, there are exceptions, poorly managed teams like the Jets, Bears, Jaguars, etc. But even those idiots are getting less gullible.
Would I love to see a quality upgrade at CB? Sure, but not at the cost of ruining the future of the team for five years if it fails.
Anyone remember John Hadl? Herschel Walker?
Every team has "weak" areas in their roster. That's why they pay the coaches big money to scheme solutions or cover for weaknesses. New England won a few of their Super Bowls without big stars up and down their rosters. But those teams were all well coached.
Mortgage the future even more? No thanks.
They have enough talent now. But the coaches better start fixing the obvious problems (special teams, running game, clock management).
gsd3
November 02, 2025 at 05:51 am
Trading for JPG is not mortgaging the future. He is a former 2nd round pick, starting caliber center / guard, on a rookie deal, who is 22 years old. That would be a huge plus for the future AND the present.
brenner
November 01, 2025 at 11:08 pm
Hell with it...go big and go get Denzel Ward...it'll really piss off garrett...
RobinsonDavis
November 02, 2025 at 11:30 am
I think the term "acceptable risk" needs to be inserted here. It's different for everybody, and every GM too! I have made my opinions known and that is to go for it....conditionally. I will point out a few ruminations, even though I support some of the ideas:
*Contrary to what is being stated, most of the recent trades that have happened, have not included picks higher than a 5th round or a back-up/sometimes starter on their current team roster.
*Many of the CBs that are being bantered as trade possibilties, or those that are already traded, are slot corners. We have plenty of depth there. Others are not scheme fits, IMO. So the pot is smaller than represented by others. Still, I DO see and agree with the need.
* I find it interesting that the Titans, who had the choice of several veteran cornerbacks to trade for, decided to choose Micah Robinson off the Packers practice squad (Yes, I know they are rebuilding and there is more to this story, but it doesn't preclude that they went a different direction).
*I do like the idea of Powers-Johnson - Imagine Josh running off his backside in short yardage! Or using him in a multiple TE/Flanker setting where he is the blocking TE or H-back, (especially with Belton - I can dream too!). But this comes with a caveat...JPJ's pass blocking is not good.
*Quietly - The highest % positional transactions over the last (roughly) 7-8 days, prior to yesterday - has been Tight Ends!....followed by WRs, and CBs in that order. Most of these are practice squad signings, but it demonstrates where GMs are positioning their teams currently.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 02, 2025 at 02:53 pm
JPJ appears statistically bad as a pass blocker because he's been used out of position at RG lately. Look at him at C and he's significantly better. I'd love to see him in GB! I think DT and CB are bigger needs, but you can only trade for who's available. Wish we still had Mecole Hardman ...