LVN has no where to go but up... Another questionable 1st round pick by a mediocre GM. If there is a chance to obtain M Parsons do it. Hope for the best but I feel LVN is another D Lowry....GPG

Yes.

I would think that in year 3, with very little competition for playing time, this is a make or break season for the 13th overall pick of the 2023 draft.

My heart sure hopes that LVN breaks out in 2025, but my head tells me to believe it when I see it.

I'll say this, if LVN turns it on this defense could elevate from good to outstanding.

Conversely, if LVN does not make a significant 3rd year jump, there will be increased scrutiny over what is becoming a concerning list of unproductive or at least relatively unproductive 1st round pikcs.

Most of us try to be hopeful with the development of our players, but we may be clutching at straws here at this stage of training camp, where optimism abounds everywhere. The first two X posts aren't convincing. MLF suggests LVN was being held back by a desire for perfection? And I have a bridge to sell you.

The most entertaining part of the second post are the replies below: everyone automatically assumes that Morgan must be an even worse pick because LVN got the better of him on this occasion.

Fans will need to see plenty of evidence in the regular season that LVN has made the proverbial jump. Flashes in camp or random conjecture by the head coach isn't going to convince anyone. It's kind of hard to believe we're still even thinking in this capacity with a third-year player taken in the upper first round. Just because this was when Gary took off (we're still talking third year, which isn't exactly early) doesn't mean that history will repeat itself. We'll just have to wait to find out.

Hold on here a second, I could swear that many here are still waiting for Gary to jump from being too average, too often. What level of a jump is being expected? To what Gary is or much more. If a Gary level, is that going to be the bar? I hope not, and an abundance of hope isn't in me. But, I'll wait, patiently, one more year to see if he earns a few more.

He’s physically gifted, he works hard, and he’s got a new d-line coach. This has got to be the year he shows drastic improvement, or his stay in GB won’t be much longer. I think most fans are pulling for him, but are justifiably cautious in their expectations.

We'll find out in one month

IIRC, while jumping up to a 11.2% pass rushing success percentage dies show improvement, 11.2% is a bad number for a starting Edge. Last season early in TC, some in the media thought putting his hand in ground was making Gary a stud pass rusher. It turned out Zach Tom was out and all of those wins came against Telfort. Tom's return signaled the end of that nice run by Gary, though the two had some nice battles. Gary had a 17.2% win percentage in 2023 which dipped to 12.7% in 2024. His pressures unsurprisingly dropped from 60 to 47. Despite the improvement in pass rush win percentage, LVN had 22 pressures in 2023 and managed 20 in 2024, while his QB hits dropped from 10 to 6 despite playing more snaps.

Morgan had a bad night against LVN. Rasheed was in pads but did not do much in practice on Tuesday. Morgan is going to get a lot of reps at left tackle. Belton looked better at right tackle on Family Night that I expected. He nullified Brenton Cox several times. I was impressed. That is because I think Cox should be the starter opposite Gary and LVN is getting these reps based on draftocracy.

So, we hope LVN was held back by a broken thumb (which seems reasonable) and Clark was held back by a bad toe/foot.

So much doomerism over LVN its actually nauseating. Have any of you actually taken some time to watch his film? Any of you? LVN's biggest impediment has been playing time, a common theme amongst the entire d-line. Last year he only played 45% of the snaps with a majority of that coming on early downs when they were playing run. Go watch the film. When given the chance, he collapsed pockets, beats double teams, motor never quits, and he even chases plays down from the backside with consistency. His upside once he masters his craft is absolutely unreal. People need to stop being so impatient and let the kid develop. He's finally being given his chance to start and he's been living in the backfield throughout training camp.

I forget LVN was a 21 year old Junior when drafted. Of course Kenny Clark arrived in GB as a 21 year old Junior too and it took him until his second year to log significant production and starts.

LVN came to Green Bay with his pass rush repertoire consisting of a Bull Rush. Two years later, under Rebrovich, LVN, the Bull Rush remained the only item on his menu.

Covington needs to unlock his "can do" potential because there is plenty of strength, speed, size and "want to" in Luther's work ethic. He and Cox, Jr are key to realizing Hafley's vision of consistent front 4 pressure...Gary and Kenny can't do it on their own. Maybe some sparks from Sorrell too.

Rashan Gary solidified himself as starter in his 3rd year because Za'Darius Smith was injured and on the outs with the Packers.

It's different with LVN, He wasn't a starter after the Packers let go of Preston Smith because he apparently couldn't win the spot.

You would hope LVN is a starter in this, his 3rd season. You'd like to think the 13th pick of the draft could break into a starters role, sometime?