Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 1897 - How to Fix the Packers Run Issues

The Packers have struggled both stopping the run on defense, and running the ball on offense. On today's show, Andy and Justis brainstorm what the Packers can do to fix the issues on both sides of the ball. You won't want to miss it!

The Packers have struggled both stopping the run on defense, and running the ball on offense. On today's show, Andy and Justis brainstorm what the Packers can do to fix the issues on both sides of the ball. You won't want to miss it!
 
 

 

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Packerfansupreme's picture

October 05, 2023 at 09:19 am

Justis,

Not sure I like your take when asking what do we want in a defensive coordinator. We want someone that doesnt coach scared, that can make adjustments during the game, and doesnt do the same things and have the team lose by death by a 1000 cuts. And they dont teach tackling in the NFL, I get it they should know how to, but enforcing the fundamentals matters. Players play, the coachs should be coaching. They cant condone this sloppy play

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Coldworld's picture

October 05, 2023 at 09:41 am

Chaos and inconsistency is a sign of a failed regime. Whether that’s the DC or his team. One of the reasons for being in the box is seeing the field like a chess board. If it’s not what you want, tell your guy on the sidelines and call a TO. At worst, you tell your coaches not to repeat it and instead what you want, That’s why he’s up there in part. It’s not just to see how plays develop. Sorry, I just can’t get on board with this.

Enagbare and Hollins are being put out in bad match ups. Wooden was against Atalanta. That’s coaching from top to bottom. If you put smaller guys in that position, don’t be surprised if it doesn’t work consistently. Yet Barry has consistently preferred to keep fewer big guys on the field. So this is a slightly baffling expiation. Elevate Ford. Rest Kenny a bit, by all means try Brooks in the edge, but he’s not been good versus the run inside.

Your point on the technical failings on assignments has been echoed by others on that and technique. At this point that’s really not controversial. That’s on the coaching.

To me the the problem is the philosophy of this D is just flawed. This is the D profile Barry wanted supposedly to adjust from the D. His formations tend light and have done.

As to OL, it’s been directed to death, but you want to run better? Don’t play players hurt, don’t play players that can’t run block. Stop the screwing around with Nijman. Coaches making the very worst of their options. Again! Just accept that the Hanson eulogies weren’t an exception but the true measure of coaching incompetence and what we see, including the technical deficiencies, becomes logical.

If you are 32 or close, then despite the same rules on Practice, all or nearly all teams are doing better. That in itself should invalidate the rules on tackling excuse. When there are assignment and technical errors as well, if the sort you call out repeatedly, that predicts bad positioning and angles. At some point you have to accept that these things flow together not stand in isolation. They are causally linked to player use and personnel choices … to the coaching by Barry, Montgomery or whomever reporting to Barry.

It’s time to raise the perspective. OL, D, too much in box thinking at the functional level obscures the increasingly obvious lessons from overall results. Here it’s sounding like a hugely strained attempt to justify not accepting the logical conclusions of all your observations. The coaching is simply failing to get the most from the talent at multiple levels.

Hamstring type issues are common for players coming back from the types of injuries Stokes had as they build up to full fitness. The injuries cause knock on effects as muscle groups rebalance.

If you want a difference on O between the Saints and Lions games, just look at the pressure allowed, especially in the first half.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 06, 2023 at 12:32 pm

Well put!

Here's the difference: Coach Lombardi: "what the hell's going on out there? Everybody's grabbing, nobody's tackling!"

Now: everybody and their Brother can see our coaches are playing the wrong guys, not even trying guys that need to be in even if just enough to get film on to help them develop, and to rotate a few more legs to keep everybody fresh enough to be competitive.

That's even before looking at more complicated things like scheme or play calling.

It's possible to both stunt player development and sour the whole culture in the locker room by persisting like this without adjusting. Asking players to continue doing their best and following leadership from the coaching staff is a big ask, anything we can see they know all about it 10x more. Look what Da Bares did, keeping Chase Claypool away from the team; they knew they need his talent but the possibility he might infect the locker room was too much risk.

Much more is at stake than a few games won or lost.

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