Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Bye Week Briefs
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl

With the Packers on their bye week, I was able to catch most of six games over the weekend. I started out with end of the Panthers-Giants game from Germany Sunday morning and then got a chance to spend the early afternoon switching between the Bears and Vikings game, the late afternoon watching the Jets game and the evening watching the Lions game. Monday night, it was the Dolphins - Rams. What a football weekend!! Here are some polluted thoughts.
Either Giants coach Brian Daboll is a coward or he doesn't trust Daniels Jones (50.5 QB rating) to not screw things up in a big moment and thus, is really smart. Trailing the lowly Panthers by three points with just over two minutes left, the Giants managed to get into field goal range at around the 30 yard line with half a minute left on the clock. They then proceeded to play for the tie, not even trying to take a shot or two into the end zone to win the game outright. They got the tie, won the toss, and then in true Giants style, proceeded to fumble the ball away on their first play of overtime, setting up an easy field goal and another crushing defeat. Hey, you're 2-7, what do you have to lose: At least attempt to win the game!
The young quarterback wreckers known as the Chicago Bears are once again doing what they do best. I personally feel Caleb Williams has the arm talent to eventually be a top 15 quarterback in the NFL.The question is, will the Bears actually work on developing him properly, put together an offensive game plan that helps him, and construct an offensive line capable of not getting him killed? He's looking kind of shell-shocked, and a lot of people are already out on Williams, but I think it's way too early. The offensive coordinator just got fired and there will surely be a new coaching regime in Chicago next season if not sooner. Maybe they screw something up and hire a competent coaching staff. Nah, probably not.
The Vikings - Jaguars game was extremely frustrating to watch. The Jaguars defense pretty much shut down Justin Jefferson and the Viking offense, but sadly, their offense was saddled with Mac Jones as their quarterback instead of Trevor Lawrence. Trailing the Vikings 9-7, Jones fumbled at his own 25 yard line, but the Jag's defense held Minnesota to a field goal. Now trailing by five points, Jones proceeded to throw two interceptions on their final two possessions to hand the win to the Vikings. If Lawrence was playing, this would have been a welcome third loss for the Vikings. Very frustrating.
Next we move on to the Jets game. I have so many mixed feelings watching Rodgers play quarterback for the Jets. On one hand, I selfishly want him to fail playing for any team other than the Packers. On the other hand, I feel sad for him watching how things are going with the Jets. His demands are all being met by the desperate Jets organization and yet it doesn't matter. He looks every bit his age and he's only getting crankier and less "tolerant" of his receivers not doing exactly what he expects. Ask Mike Williams, who did cartwheels after the Jets traded him to the Steelers presumably because he couldn't get on the same page with Rodgers. It took one pass for Russel Wilson to connect with Williams for a 32-yard game winning TD pass. Maybe Williams couldn't solve the beautiful mystery of Rodgers' secret hand signals.
Sunday Night brought the game with the most rooting interest, Lions - Texans. And it was sure looking great for awhile, until the Texans kept not rejecting the gifts the Lions (mostly Goff) were doling out. This game could have been over at half time or at worst the third quarter, but the Texans offense could do little and the Lions eventually climbed back into it. Even with all of that, it took two 50+ yard field goals, which both skimmed the uprights, for the Lions to steal a win. This was the second week in a row the Lions' opponents beat themselves and just reiterates my belief that the Packers are better than the Lions and will beat them if they just don't again make a billion mistakes.
Monday night wrapped things up as we got a look at the Packers' Thanksgiving night opponent, the Miami Dolphins with Tua back at quarterback. They certainly showed they were a better team than their 2-6 record would indicate, especially if their defense can continue to play at the same level they suddenly showed in this game, which was a new development for 2024. How hard did you wince when Tua took a shot ton the head trying to tackle the player who had just intercepted his pass?
It was a fun football-filled weekend for me, even if the football and probability Gods were not with the Packers. The Lions and Vikings pulled out wins despite throwing a combined eight interceptions between them. Those odds are probably like winning with a 200-1 shot at the racetrack. Anyway, on to the Bears!
Go Pack Go!
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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of various hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He's a lifetime Packers fan living in the land of the Giants (and Jets). Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP.
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Comments (56)
Cheezehead72
November 13, 2024 at 07:02 am
Al I am jealous of you as I did not get much time to watch football this weekend. Needed to get things done around the house.
Williams might be a good QB in the future and I agree that one season does not define a career. I still stick with my prediction that Daniels is the better QB and the Bears would have been better off drafting him. Only time will tell. Oh well all the better for the Packers. I am not terribly concerned about the OC change this week due to that the new OC has little experience but I will admit that anything could happen. The Bears are backed into the corner and you know what happens when you corner a Bear. Right now they got nothing to lose.
Mister Chievous
November 13, 2024 at 03:57 pm
bears? never. chipmunks maybe.
Coldworld
November 13, 2024 at 07:13 am
There is no perfect team out there and seasons have a way of exposing that given time. The Lions and Goff were due a coming back to earth after a pretty stellar stretch at a historically unsustainable level of efficiency.
There is enough talent on the Packers to match up with any team. The problem is that we have been at best inconsistent in harnessing it. For the most part we are not playing close to our potential for full games. At some point that has to change because in the end results matter and in our division this year, perhaps particularly so.
Seeing what the coaches learned over the bye and if they can tweak personnel and approaches to unlock things will be quite revealing I think. I am not sure if the Bears O is much of a yardstick at this point, particularly their OL, but I am very interested to see what we can do against their vaunted D. That will be a good test of our Head Coach/OC, QB and the O as a whole I think.
I no longer watch Rodgers. It’s just not pretty. I felt the same way about Favre right at the end. Better to remember what he was than what he is now (or be a Jets fan).
dobber
November 13, 2024 at 08:57 am
The Packers can't be looking past the Bears. Yes, they are down, but they have some pieces that can attack the Packers' D where it's weakest (underneath middle, and mid/deep outs). The plus is that the Packers should be mostly healthy (pending today's practice reports, knock on wood) and the Bears are limping on the OL. The Bears can be beat on the ground, but as much as anything the Packers need to be able to sustain drives and finish with points--the Bears' D is good at forcing 3s over 7s and keeping games under 21, even if they lose. The Packers kick too many FGs.
24-13 Packers
Minniman
November 13, 2024 at 01:01 pm
Hot off the press - all players on the 53 are practicing today (including Myers, Alexander, Williams). Kraft and Lloyd are also practicing.
Mister Chievous
November 13, 2024 at 04:05 pm
we have to consider the possibility that the team is playing right at their maximum potential. our receivers are mediocre. love has been awful, combining poor fundamentals, wildly inaccurate throws and stupid decisions. we are still the youngest team in the league and it is asking a lot for them to be dominant. that said, if we had a good kicker we'd probably be 8-1.
NickPerry
November 13, 2024 at 07:15 am
"I have so many mixed feelings watching Rodgers play quarterback for the Jets. On one hand, I selfishly want him to fail playing for any team other than the Packers. On the other hand, I feel sad for him watching how things are going with the Jets."
Your a nice man Al, or maybe I've just gotten just gotten a bit meaner in my old age. I absolutely LOVE watching Rodgers flopping in NY. I also got a HUGE kick out of Mike Williams catching the winning TD pass.
Rodgers is an asshole and Karma is a bitch. Couldn't happen to a more douchey guy!
dobber
November 13, 2024 at 08:58 am
He's learning that the coaching staff in GB wasn't the problem.
Bitternotsour
November 13, 2024 at 09:31 am
is he really? learning that is. he's a toxic narcissist, it will never be his fault and he'll eventually slink away and find a spotlight on a podcast or something.
last weekend was a delight for a Rodgers hater, and that Mike Williams TD was as good an exclamation point as we could possibly have received #redline
Minniman
November 13, 2024 at 01:06 pm
The thing is - if they maintain the current trajectory then there will be only 1 person in the entire NFL community (including fans and media) that will know the truth (that Rodgers was the architect of his own fail).
I'm certainly no Rodgers hater (actually, like others have posted already, I'll look forward to reminiscing of him as a great Packer)............ but his time had passed......... and he was exceeding his station.
Bitternotsour
November 13, 2024 at 01:09 pm
exceeding his station is exceedingly polite. I will add that to my vernacular. Thank you.
egbertsouse
November 13, 2024 at 07:29 am
I actually got to watch a lot of football this weekend too. Normally, when you get a nice November weekend in Minnesota you work like hell to get ready for the winter. However, my wife returned from visiting family in California with a case of Covid, which she promptly gave to me. (I stupidly didn’t get around to getting vaccinated yet this fall.) I’m getting a T-shirt printed that says,”My wife went to California and all I got was this lousy Covid!”.
Anyway, the patio and deck furniture will be covered with snow and the leaves will remain unraked but I got to watch football.
T7Steve
November 13, 2024 at 07:48 am
Williams and Rodgers have more in common than Rodgers owning or being a previous owner of both teams. Both teams, probably partly because of Rodgers, forgot to build offensive lines and line depth. How do teams think they can skip the most important unit and think they can operate?
PeteK
November 13, 2024 at 09:37 am
I live in Jersey and have been telling my NY fan friends that their teams are neglecting the most important and cost effective part of an offense, the O line. Some of the best bargains in the draft are found in drafting linemen in later rounds.
T7Steve
November 13, 2024 at 12:42 pm
Kind of makes me wonder who disagrees with that. Or are they nailing me just because I brought up Rodgers?
Oppy
November 15, 2024 at 06:18 am
I didn’t didn’t down vote, but I don’t think Thompson failed to attempt to build an OL for Rodgers, I think Ted just whiffed on a number of OL picks early on. Guys like Spitz, College, etc- they weren’t bad, they just weren’t that good.. but the packers were trying were trying.
I believe for a lot of fans, seeing smaller, more agile linemen for the zone blocking scheme was a shock, too- no road grader types Ala power blocking schemes. It didn’t look like it always had before.
TKWorldWide
November 13, 2024 at 08:15 am
You had me at “beautiful mystery!”
GregC
November 13, 2024 at 08:31 am
I don't feel sad for Rodgers. For a couple games, I watched him hoping he would fail yet appreciating those trademark Rodgers throws that he can still make. I no longer want to watch him though. He does not bring out the best in me as a football fan.
The Vikings were lucky to play the Jaguars without Trevor Lawrence, but I guess we can't complain because the Packers played the Rams without Cooper Cupp and Puka Nacua.
LambeauPlain
November 13, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Just a vanity player now. A great reputation is built by a thousand good deeds and quickly undone by a few bad/questionable actions.
Not a good look leaving the Packers...his Jets exit will be even less appealing.
Calzone
November 15, 2024 at 10:30 am
Rodgers is a jerk.
LeotisHarris
November 13, 2024 at 08:33 am
If Tua is not lying still in a dark, quiet room by the 28th, I'm going to have to pass on watching him seek his next brain injury against the Packers. If only Dave Duerson or Junior Seau could have a talk with him.
The Texan team that was beating up on the Lions was a much different team than the one we beat, until they weren't. This just might be the Lions year, until it isn't.
I have no empathy or sympathy for Aaron Rodgers. May he remain healthy for the remainder of his career. You plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
dobber
November 13, 2024 at 09:05 am
Every time Tua gets pressured, I'm reminded of the OL from "Not Another Teen Movie" who has a countdown ticker keeping track of concussions, where 0 means he dies.
calabasa
November 13, 2024 at 11:17 am
Roll away!
LeotisHarris
November 13, 2024 at 02:57 pm
::fistbump::
Leatherhead
November 13, 2024 at 08:57 am
Don't care about Rodgers. Yes, it's always sad when a guy stays too long.
If you want to pass, you have to protect your QB. If you can't protect the QB, you can't pass, which means you're not going to score very much, which means you aren't going to win very much. I do not understand how this simple truth just seems to baffle the entire Chicago organization.
In retrospect, the Bears would have been ahead to use the draft to put better players around Justin Fields. They were 7-10 last year and it doesn't look like they're going to improve on that very much.
dobber
November 13, 2024 at 09:09 am
Meanwhile, Fields went on to Pittsburgh where he is surrounded by better coaches and players, led the Steelers to 4-2 and has played better than just about any time he was in Chicago. Someone's going to give him another shot, and if they can support him, I think he'll be a capable player.
At this point, I'd like to see Pittsburgh put both Wilson and Fields out there and do some creative things with them...much like the Packers could do with both Willis and Love.
Mister Chievous
November 13, 2024 at 05:21 pm
put two qbs on the field at the same time?
dobber
November 14, 2024 at 07:40 am
When one (Fields, Willis) is a great athlete and playmaker in the open field and has the mass to play through contact, why not? Look at all the gimmicky crap Taysom Hill does. The difference is, you pitch out Fields/Willis and they're still a threat to throw downfield.
Oppy
November 14, 2024 at 08:12 am
Sorry, dobber, but there's a great reason for why not.
The reason why the Wildcat and other similar offenses that had a bit of a heyday about a decade ago in pro football are no longer seen very often. Defenses started to punish teams running them.
When you have 2 QBs on the field, or your QB is lined up as a RB, etc, etc.. they no longer have the protections of a QB, and defenses started to severely punish the non-passing QB on the field.
Trick play here or there? Sure. But if you start putting two QBs on the field with any regularity, it won't be long before you don't have a second QB to put on the field.
greengold
November 15, 2024 at 10:52 am
Would drafting a siamese twin FB cost one or two draft picks? Would that still count as 11 men on the field?
#sorrynotsorry
Leatherhead
November 15, 2024 at 11:27 am
Oppy, I get your point. Maybe as a trick play, or something near the goal line, but not as a staple of the offense.
On the other hand....we're having trouble in the redzone and maybe adding Willis would be a nice wrinkle. Paul Hornung, HB option pass.
Still, I think we have to decide what we are, and what we are is a team that runs well and throws a lot of TD passes. I'd rather concentrate on that than try to get tricky at this point. Putting Malik Willis on the field with Rodgers would mean taking somebody else off.
Jacobs/Williams, Reed, Doubs, Kraft, Watson. Watson and Kraft are mostly blockers but they will get some targets. This group can get it done. The line will get people blocked, and Love will settle down and run the offense. Even with everything....all the turnovers, all the drops, all the penalties, all the missed FGs....we're still 9th in per game scoring. We're one missed FG from being 7th. Only three teams have thrown more TD passes. Only two teams are getting more yards on the ground per game.
It's really frustrating to watch this offense beat itself, but I'm going to hope that it stops, soon, and when it does, this baby is going to take off and nobody is going to stop it.
ricky
November 13, 2024 at 09:00 am
As far as Caleb Williams, never, ever underestimate the Bears ability to ruin a good QB. If the Bears had drafted Mahones instead of Trubisky, Mahones would be seen as a draft bust, and be on his third team as a backup. The ruining of Trevor Lawrence by the Jaguars, multiple coaches and a porous OL, seems to be where Williams is headed.
After nine games last year, the Packers were 3-6. This year, they're 6-3. If (a small word with a lot of impact) the Packers can do what they did last year, they could end up with around 11 to 13 wins.
Always remember the media are bandwagon cheerleaders. The first few weeks, Sam Darnold was going to be MVP. Then Goff. Now? Who knows? And for me, who cares? Rodgers had four MVP's, but only made it to one SB. Being SB MVP should be the goal. And speaking of the football landscape, which team has been dominating the scene? KC is undefeated, but barely squeaks by opponents. Kind of like the Packers in most of their victories this year. As of now, it all seems wide open, and whichever team gets on a roll would have to be considered leaders in the SB sweepstakes.
Finally, as for Rodgers, I'm also torn on his ending. As you wrote, he got what he wanted, and doesn't have the same skill set or durability he did after years of tackles and various injuries. But in the end, I believe Packers fans would welcome back the prodigal son, as they did with Favre. Who, at the end of his career, forced his way onto the Vikings so he could "stick it to the Packers" twice a year.
GregC
November 13, 2024 at 01:39 pm
Yes, I think Rodgers will be welcomed back by Packer fans. He won a Super Bowl for our team. I won't be among those who welcome him back though. I felt the same way about Favre.
Leatherhead
November 13, 2024 at 06:25 pm
He won a Super Bowl with our team.
Mister Chievous
November 13, 2024 at 05:24 pm
I'm not so sure favre has been welcomed back like a son. where's the fatted cat?
RCPackerFan
November 13, 2024 at 09:26 am
"The young quarterback wreckers known as the Chicago Bears are once again doing what they do best. I personally feel Caleb Williams has the arm talent to eventually be a top 15 quarterback in the NFL.The question is, will the Bears actually work on developing him properly, put together an offensive game plan that helps him, and construct an offensive line capable of not getting him killed? He's looking kind of shell-shocked, and a lot of people are already out on Williams, but I think it's way too early. The offensive coordinator just got fired and there will surely be a new coaching regime in Chicago next season if not sooner. Maybe they screw something up and hire a competent coaching staff. Nah, probably not."
I figured since its Bears week this is the good one to respond to.
It is truly how a team can take a talented QB and just wreck them. I have no clue what Williams future will hold, but the Bears made the mistake early handing the keys to him without him even stepping a foot into Illinois. Its not just about Williams. They worried about having the Weaponry around him, but didn't worry about the most important part. The OL. When a young QB starts seeing ghosts on the field its hard to not see them.
I am curious to see what the new OC does for Chicago. At the same time I'm curious to see what Haffley has in store for them. I think we could see a few changes after the bye. Obviously not Preston Smith anymore. So we will see more of Mosby and possibly Cox. Hopefully Williams and Alexander are back as well. I'm looking forward to more games again.
stockholder
November 13, 2024 at 12:03 pm
I don't see anything wrong with Rodgers.
In Fact: I still would take him over Love THIS YEAR.
The difference; is Rodgers has a bad OL.
And the running attack stinks with a ranking of 30.
No running attack. No OL. = Frustration. Loses.
And that defense is just another Laugh.
With No money to fix the problem.
But I do get the hate here.
Somebody had to take the blame.
Which most took it to the extreme.
LambeauPlain
November 13, 2024 at 12:59 pm
I don't hate you for silly, foolish, delusional hero worship comments. I just SMH with a giggle...like I am now.
Maybe the Jets OL just has a bad QB making poor decisions constantly changing the play pre snap as he does with most of the coaches calls and losses many plays.
stockholder
November 13, 2024 at 01:44 pm
The Sympathy should go to Rodgers.
Oppy
November 15, 2024 at 06:14 am
lol, stockholder gonna stockholder.
The “somebody had to take the blame” part is amazing. Rodgers spent his entire career in GB dodging any accountability happily allowing the media and fans to assume his coaches and team mates were to blame for any shortcomings on the field- based on deliberately misleading statements made by Rodgers during his pressers.
Rodgers never took blame in while in GB. By and large, it was only after he was shipped out that many packers fans started to even question Rodgers’ culpability at all.
greengold
November 15, 2024 at 10:56 am
The Jets OL is ranked #9. Give it up. He was and remains, a complete, self-serving a**hole.
NFLfan
November 13, 2024 at 12:08 pm
Rodgers stirs up contradictory feelings in me. Sometimes I think he is the most arrogant, insensitive jerk and at other times, I see him as a tragic entity who does not seem to possess self-awareness
nor self-insight. He speaks fairly eloquently and professorially so I am fooled into thinking he has greater than average personal insight but he continues to do head-scratching things both off and on the field so I swing between thinking is arrogant or 'neurodivergent'. I think there is evidence that Aaron has Asperger's. For example, why go on Pat McAfee when you're 3 and 7? Most people would say hey, 'until we do better, I'm not coming on'--I don't think it's arrogance, it looks like tone-deafness to me.
I remember the initial meeting between Randall Cobb and Woody Johnson. Randall laughed and told Woody that one of his major roles was one of 'interpreter' and Woody seemed to breathe a sigh of relief & (I don't care for Woody).
I think Woody was looking for Randall to translate on a fairly regular basis.
barutanseijin
November 13, 2024 at 02:56 pm
I soured on Rodgers after the Debacle in Seattle. He played poorly and his cowardly quarterbacking was one of the many reasons they lost that game. He was happy to let others take the blame. What a turd.
He and his worshippers always have a scapegoat or an excuse to get Rodgers off the hook . I’d like to see him get blamed for something and have it stick just once. That said, he and the Jets are way too boring to watch.
Gman1976
November 13, 2024 at 03:02 pm
Detroit would have lost if the Texans had a decent Offensive Coordinator who repeatedly called for a run into the teeth of the Lion's defense. I don't know how many times he called for the run up the gut, but it failed again and again and put the Texans in poor position on 3rd down. He must of been thinking, "It's gotta work this time" like a 10-time losing gambler. I am still astounded how he called the same/similar play on first down so many times. What a waste.
JerseyAl
November 13, 2024 at 04:43 pm
To all: Go argue about vaccines elsewhere.
Calzone
November 15, 2024 at 10:29 am
Not sure what that means.
greengold
November 15, 2024 at 10:39 am
A simple statement of fact: This place is strictly football... well... along with some Monty Python.
I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid. Blessed are the cheesemakers.
JerseyAl
November 15, 2024 at 06:25 pm
But I just paid you!
JerseyAl
November 15, 2024 at 10:51 am
Oh, cut the drama queen act. We have the right to decide what topics we want discussed here. We also have the right to ban you if you are a pain in the ass. If you don't like any of this, you can leave,
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Calzone
November 15, 2024 at 04:37 pm
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Major Snafu
November 13, 2024 at 08:43 pm
Al I,'m old enough to see most of the great ones take on father time and lose except a few who saw writing on wall and quit.
Marciasno, Grettzke etc.
Rodgers made the decision to keep playing blame him.
1. Lions are not super bowl bound. No pass rush, weak pass defense, lack of receivers.
2. Jets bears cowboys pats panthers rams put a fork in em. Season over.
3. KC is the best team because Andy put speed players every where. They ware you down by 4th quarter trying to keep up, that's there secret, Andy knows speed kills.
Vikes came down to earth, there qb is back to his not being that good.
Ravens are strange. Steelers are real. Cards interesting. 49ers, chargers, broncos Bengals so so.
Calzone
November 13, 2024 at 09:06 pm
You feel sad for Rodgers? What the hell is wrong with you? "I feel sad for him watching how things are going with the Jets. His demands are all being met by the desperate Jets organization and yet it doesn't matter. He looks every bit his age and he's only getting crankier and less 'tolerant' of his receivers not doing exactly what he expects." Cry us a river. Rodgers deserves to eat his baloney (and I don't mean baloney) for all the turmoil and frustration he puts on everybody. He's a pathetic dweeb and his Favre-like narcissism has brought on his own karma. I look forward to the day the Packers retire LYNN DICKEY's number.
JerseyAl
November 13, 2024 at 10:04 pm
Forgive me for having a moment of humanity. I'll try to keep that under wraps.
Bitternotsour
November 13, 2024 at 10:30 pm
It's just that it's so out of character Al. You've unnerved people.
Calzone
November 15, 2024 at 10:27 am
You should watch AR on McAfee this week spreading the lie that Goff is undefeated when throwing 4 INTs in a game - LOL. Rodgers who once said, "Do your own research," continues to be a fool.
Calzone
November 13, 2024 at 09:08 pm
Caleb Williams is an unmarried cat lady. He literally cried about his cats on camera while wearing black fingernail polish at USC. Go back and look at the tape!